Official Tom Clancy's The Division Thread

[AndYUKnowThis]

This. I think I will still try the next beta on ps4 for the lulz. But not being able to precisely aim in this game, ouch.

Killing the AI isn't so bad and its manageable with practice.

But like the above poster said, the movement animations are retarded. It's like the players have little weight to them and you can just strafe willy nilly. I don't see how developers think their gameplay is good with movement like that. It's just not fun. If players had more weight and movement was a bit more restricted, then it'd probably be better, idk.

If there's another beta coming out I'll be playing to again. Will this 1 be open? Can i get a link? I usually play a game for about 5-9 days before I give my full opinion. Who knows, maybe it take more practice

[Gxp23]

Still a coin flip for me here. I really want to enjoy the game, but I have a feeling ill get bored of it just as quick, if not quicker than Destiny.

[ProjectWheyhem]

Spell out your concerns...I think it would be a helpful discussion for those who don't know anything about the game and are looking to this thread to make their decision.

I have done a few times but I'm sort of reluctant to criticise any big games now because it turns into a chit storm and I get labelled a troll and a hater but seeing as you asked nicely...

- Longevity: There doesn't seem to be anything to do other than shooting enemies whilst in cover. Now initially you might argue "well that's the same for a lot of games" which is true but this is an RPG game with MMO elements and as such we are going to be playing it for far longer than most other cover shooters.

Now take into account that most other cover shooters are set in fantasy worlds and this makes the game-play of The Division even more concerning because:

1. It's shooting mechanics are not A+ like say Destiny's were.

2. The Division can only have human enemies which will lack variety. In Gears of War they can throw a Brumak or a Corpser at you in a crazy fight against some bizarre creature. The Division can't do that.

*I have repeatedly got chit for this next one*

Build Variety: Though it is true that there are a multitude of different builds each with little variances. There are only 3 classes:
1. Medicine (Healer)
2. Security (Defence)
3. Technology (Offence)

None of the perks/skills are going to switch up game-play in any meaningful way and I believe that the community at large will settle into a build of one healing skill and one technology skill of drone/sentry/sticky bomb, modified in the most powerful way.

The 3 classes don't really offer any other way to play, regardless of your build people will still be hiding in cover, whittling their opponents health bar down.

A few months into the game, I feel like you will know exactly what skills you're going to be facing in the Dark Zone.

I would have liked to have seen around 8 classes that offer different play styles and offer more mission variety in the Single Player portion too, for example.

A Firefighter class that could be a PvE specialist with buffs to fire invulnerability to take on the Cleaners. The single player missions could revolve around the player rescuing fire fighters from gangs or rebuilding fire stations/turning fire defence systems back online.

Single Player content: I like to play games on my own, I'm not a fan of organising groups and being stressed out by other people. I worry that like Destiny, The Division is going to shut lone wolves out of the end game content.

In the beta the main mission you did could be played on "Hard" mode and I played through it a few times in a party and the AI wasn't any more sophisticated, it just threw more enemies with bigger health bars at you, like Destiny.

I believe that through the limited play styles and their approach to mission design, the higher level missions will become too frustrating to play on your own and players will be forced to team up to play the end game content.

Similarly, the Dark Zone calmed down towards the end of the beta when everybody had all the gear and there was no reason to grief people but the Dark Zone won't be like that in the real game. It is going to become hell on earth for single players where you face groups of organised griefers that you have no defence against.

I want to be able to sneak into the DZ and sneak out with stuff, but that's impossible. I would ideally like to never have to kill another non-rogue human player, but I will be forced to, many times to defend myself. This is supposed to be a ROLE PLAYING game but I won't be able to role play as an agent that actually wants to restore order.

Loot The loot in The Division is the end game. This means that no amount of exploring will ever reveal anything interesting. Let's say you find a disused subway tunnel hidden at the edge of the map. You pretty much know that nothing interesting will be in there, because the game wants you to fight over the best loot in the DZ.

There is no negative to becoming rogue: The DZ should feel like a tense survival mode, but with the way it's set up it feels like an inconsequential where people just shoot on sight, respawn, run back to fight and carry on shooting. We're supposed to be agents that restore order and yet in the DZ everybody is an anarchic rogue.

I believe this creates a ludonarrative dissonance. The game will continually be telling you how you're saving Manhattan and restoring order, but in reality you know that you're just building XP so you can go rob some kunts in the DZ.

Cliffs:

[mgftp]

Still a coin flip for me here. I really want to enjoy the game, but I have a feeling ill get bored of it just as quick, if not quicker than Destiny.

Not even gonna get it to do co-op with us? Fawk you too den. :.(

[Bcider]

I don't understand what you fellas mean by too much strafing?

Like when those fukers run towards the red zone to cheese into the safe house. Some guys were pros at jerking around like chickens.

[E-Go]

It's short for 'Strategic Homeland Division'.

Strategic Homeland Intervention, Enforcement and Logistics Division

[E-Go]

We just gonna act like Just Dance isn't GOAT?

Only if you get the "Now That's What I Call Music: Volume 47" expansion. Mmmbop

[E-Go]

Not even gonna get it to do co-op with us? Fawk you too den. :.(

Uhoh... cracks in this relationships foundation

[Criollo]

Uhoh... cracks in this relationships foundation

learn to multi quote u dumb fuk

[Unbreakable09]

learn to multi quote u dumb fuk

[Tip Top]

Open beta starts Feb 19th for PS4 and PC (Feb 18th for Xbone) and will run through the 21st. I highly recommend anyone who's still on the fence trying it out...for people like me who already decided, it'll be a nice fix to hold off the withdrawals before the full launch

no characters from the closed beta will carry over, so everyone will be starting fresh at level 4. There will be an additional story mission than the one we got in the CB.

http://blog.ubi.com/announcing-the-division-open-beta/

and here's a vid about the factions:

[E-Go]

learn to multi quote u dumb fuk

Cracks in this one too.....

Too lazy to multi quote on mobile

[mgftp]

Cracks in this one too.....

Too lazy to multi quote on mobile

Wot?

You must have an iPotato, multi-quote just fine on phone crew.

[Bcider]

Open beta starts Feb 19th for PS4 and PC (Feb 18th for Xbone) and will run through the 21st. I highly recommend anyone who's still on the fence trying it out...for people like me who already decided, it'll be a nice fix to hold off the withdrawals before the full launch

no characters from the closed beta will carry over, so everyone will be starting fresh at level 4. There will be an additional story mission than the one we got in the CB.

http://blog.ubi.com/announcing-the-division-open-beta/

and here's a vid about the factions:

Sounds good, here's their chance to actually show us more about the game. If the new mission is just another camp behind cover, kill a few waves of enemies, and then do it again a few times before fighting a super meatshield with nothing interesting about him a lot of people won't be impressed.

I want this next beta to showcase the depth of the skill system (if there is any) and actual fights that require strategy rather than just a gear check.

[Bcider]

Don't expect this to be any different from the last beta, don't set yourself up like that.

I really don't know why they can't give us a glimpse of more. Makes me think there isn't if they won't.

[ViagraOverdose]

Why would they? It's a glorified stress test, and a glimpse at the mechanics. Honestly, I think the only reason we even have access to 1 story mission, is because it is required to sow off the Base of Operations.


What would they gain by giving away more of the story to people for free?

They would gain $60 from undecided people like me. Pretty simple really.

[ViagraOverdose]

If you aren't satisfied by the beta content now, why would 1 more story mission make you any more sure of your purchase?

If you are on the fence, just wait until it comes out, and it gets reviewed, srs.

If i'm not already satisfied by the beta? Why do you think Ubisoft is specifically making another beta?

It is because Ubisoft agrees with me. They obviously care about increasing their audience and pre order numbers. For that reason, any amount of new missions would have a great chance to show of the flexibility and replay ability of the game. This was Something the last AAA RPG/Slight MMO Bungie game lacked at launch. In turn, this would help me make an informed decision.

You are a smart guy, so why are you being obtuse? I don't think I am saying anything surprising. After all how long would it take for Ubi to add another mission.

[CheekyPhaggot]

If i'm not already satisfied by the beta? Why do you think Ubisoft is specifically making another beta?

It is because Ubisoft agrees with me. They obviously care about increasing their audience and pre order numbers. For that reason, any amount of new missions would have a great chance to show of the flexibility and replay ability of the game. This was Something the last AAA RPG/Slight MMO Bungie game lacked at launch. In turn, this would help me make an informed decision.

You are a smart guy, so why are you being obtuse? I don't think I am saying anything surprising. After all how long would it take for Ubi to add another mission.

they had a CLOSED BETA for people that had pre-ordered the game.
this will be their OPEN BETA for anyone to try(no pre order req) and yes its a stress test. you and podunks both offer a valid point

[ViagraOverdose]

Well, I think the main disconnect, is that you think the beta is being used solely for a preview of content, and I think it is nothing more than a great stress/beta test, to iron out issues, and show off mechanics.

I wouldn't give away more story, especially when you can go watch plenty of other test footage on youtube, to see a number of other story missions.


I don't think either of us are more right or wrong than the other per say, but I don't expect x amount of content from beta testing. At the end of the day, you will never satisfy everyone, especially with a highly restricted beta. So, why not just use it to test for bugs like the invis glitch, server load, etc?

they had a CLOSED BETA for people that had pre-ordered the game.
this will be their OPEN BETA for anyone to try(no pre order req) and yes its a stress test. you and podunks both offer a valid point

In your own words:

Agreed. This beta is just a demo to showcase the game.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...t=customizable

Respectfully, there is no disconnect, You have contradicted yourself. They had an Alpha, and a closed beta, the meaningful 'stress test' days are long gone, the game will be released in about 3 weeks.

To clear some things up, I stand by my original statement, I'm really keen to see how far Ubisoft takes the 'rebuilding of New York'. So yes I would like to see at least another mission in the beta.

I don't want to ruin the experience for myself, but I enjoy discussing the game, wether it is negative or positive.

I was actually pleasantly surprised and saw some new positives in this gameplay video, released last week.



EDIT: Ubisoft must have been reading the misc, new content in open beta confirmed by Podunks

[ProjectWheyhem]

Aw fuk. I deleted the beta because I assumed that the open beta would be the same content.

Am I screwed or will it have saved my Agent on the server? Fuk at having to download 27 GB again, I should have known better.

I have to say I'm impressed with that list of fixes from closed to open beta, they addressed a lot of issues.

I hope the game is going to remember that I played the closed beta...

[mgftp]

Aw fuk. I deleted the beta because I assumed that the open beta would be the same content.

Am I screwed or will it have saved my Agent on the server? Fuk at having to download 27 GB again, I should have known better.

I have to say I'm impressed with that list of fixes from closed to open beta, they addressed a lot of issues.

I hope the game is going to remember that I played the closed beta...

Yea, good sign for sure.

[Tip Top]

ps4 updates...looks like they're listening to the fanbase:

[AXnyc]

Honestly if they support this game and take the rainbow six siege approach all faith will be restored.

[PatHead]

What is the R6S approach?

only thing I can think of is the way they are handling DLC

[PatHead]

Listening to feedback?

rainbow six siege dlc is completely free. you can pay to unlock new operators early, but also can play in game to gain currency to unlock those operators

[ProjectWheyhem]

Closed beta agents don't transfer over. Everyone has to restart, however, if you have not deleted the closed beta files, a patch is all that's needed to play the Open Beta.

Ah. Not to much of a disaster then, just a 27 GB download but at least I don't have to be the only person starting over.

Hope the full game rewards people who played in both betas.

I still think it's ridiculous in Europe that the Sleeper Agent Edition doesn't get you the Fire-Fighter/Police & Paramedic outfits

[LabeledCitizen]

Sooo... Has this game made a turn around?
It seemed at first people were coming down on it, but now it looks like people are going to give it a solid go.
Wutdo?

[Rayaarito]

Pretty excited for this game. I'm have zero games to play and i refuse to buy any games since the last couple games i've bought were a disappointment. I should have gotten a PS4 instead. We aren't even getting street fighter :-/ Either i'm getting old or gaming is just not what it used to be

[mgftp]

Sooo... Has this game made a turn around?
It seemed at first people were coming down on it, but now it looks like people are going to give it a solid go.
Wutdo?

Summary: If you like RPGs it's a go, if not, it's a maybe.

[LabeledCitizen]

Summary: If you like RPGs it's a go, if not, it's a maybe.

I live for RPGs. Being a shooter just adds that extra flavor. I've always been interested but wanted yall's opinions.
Looking through the thread I am very eager for the open beta. Gonna spend a lot of time on it.
As of this moment though- be ready to game PS4 crew!