PSMF, Never cutting any other way again

[Bullneckbruh]

I did something like this and it was bye bye boners

[Madevilz]

I did something like this and it was bye bye boners

You are not supposed to do it for longer than 10 days.
If you lose boner after 10 days, then you were already low test to begin with.

[Madevilz]

How long do you plan on running it for?

I ran it for 10 days. and then cut normally with carb cycling.
I seriously will never cut without PSMF again, that thing is life hack. It's like a whole month worth of cutting in just over 1 week, and it's not long enough to lose much muscle mass and strength.

Fat loss is real as well, not only water loss. It's been over 3 months since, and 2 on a caloric surplus and I can still see the outline of my abs (see latest pic on Instagram).

[Bullneckbruh]

You are not supposed to do it for longer than 10 days.
If you lose boner after 10 days, then you were already low test to begin with.

I did it for a month and lost 30 pounds. pretty much 1000 cals a day with chicken breast and veggies as only food.

Literally had a dead dick for a bit

[Madevilz]

I did it for a month and lost 30 pounds. pretty much 1000 cals a day with chicken breast and veggies as only food.

Literally had a dead dick for a bit

and you wonder why?

[Flognutz]

Sounds fkn retarded.

What happened to a good old fashioned 500 calorie deficit and cardio. atleast you keep your metabolism kicking and can enjoy life while you cut.

[Madevilz]

Sounds fkn retarded.

What happened to a good old fashioned 500 calorie deficit and cardio. atleast you keep your metabolism kicking and can enjoy life while you cut.

You use PSMF to kickstart a cut for those who wants faster results. You are not supposed to go longer than 10 days. After those days, you reefed and go on a normal cutting diet. Don't say it's retarded if you haven't tried it yourself.

[Bullneckbruh]

and you wonder why?

It was worth it except when I tried to cheat on my gf with a side piece I was trying to get with for awhile and I couldn't get it up.

Thank god for cialis LOL

[Madevilz]

It was worth it except when I tried to cheat on my gf with a side piece I was trying to get with for awhile and I couldn't get it up.

Thank god for cialis LOL

well gotta mire your discipline, after those 10 days, I had to reefed and go on a normal diet, don't think Id last longer without a break. Good job on the 30lbs loss, did you lose a lot of muscle?

[Bullneckbruh]

well gotta mire your discipline, after those 10 days, I had to reefed and go on a normal diet, don't think Id last longer without a break. Good job on the 30lbs loss, did you lose a lot of muscle?

Honestly, after 10 or so days it just became routine to me and I never felt hungry. The first time I had a real meal after that month I literally had to walk away from the table. I couldn't stop eating. Also, eating bread made me fall asleep and I still can't eat oatmeal without getting sleepy. Glucose sensitivity?

I think the last week I was on it I lost 5 pounds and I'm willing to bet most of that was muscle but the first 2.5 weeks was all water and fat.

[guyver79]

I ran it for 10 days. and then cut normally with carb cycling.
I seriously will never cut without PSMF again, that thing is life hack. It's like a whole month worth of cutting in just over 1 week, and it's not long enough to lose much muscle mass and strength.

Fat loss is real as well, not only water loss. It's been over 3 months since, and 2 on a caloric surplus and I can still see the outline of my abs (see latest pic on Instagram).

Funnily enough I was planning on doing something similar to "kick start" my cut, I'd read recently on suppversity something similar over 4 days but with a chit load of cardio and it resulted in real permanent fat loss I thought I'd just have to suck I up over a weekend.

It's not that different to the "phuck the experts" diet on getbig, except he adds 40-60g of fat a day, his argument being a shorter cut is easier and preserves more muscle than a longer cut, doing 6 weeks instead 3 months.

Phuck this thread is getting me motivated to get shredded, proper cut starts tonight......this week is gonna be tough.......I've got a lot yo lose!!!

[11lemon11]

Is this not the same as the Velocity Diet? I did that diet on and off over the course of a summer once. I lived on shakes made from 6hr whey and would take a spoon of peanut butter and two of udo's oil every night. Was taking in around 1200 calories/day at the most. Lost over 30lb and the weight stayed off. It wasn't that difficult. I lost my appetite for carbs after about 4 days and it became easy to follow then. Plus, as a benefit from the diet you gain superb mental clarity about one week in. I never felt weak or low either. And the one cheat meal a week improved my focus rather than tempting me to cheat further. It was good.

[Flognutz]

lol you just know there is someone who is switched on looking at this thread and having a laugh at how natty's think they get the edge with some extreme diet or workout program.

just cut 500 calories and do cardio.....if you want to accelerate fat loss there are drugs/hormone supplements for that. no need to go full retard and eat 800 calories a day. slow and steady always wins the race with cutting....give yourself 12-16 weeks and you wont have a problem.

it's like another diet that was recently pushed onto me.....all these trainers hopped on the no carb breakfast and carb backloading train and put all their clients on it, claiming you can get shredded quicker and eat more, while eating all your carbs in the last meal.....it's all just bro science and people over complicating things when there is no need.

TLDR...just hit your macros with good food brahs.

[Madevilz]

lol you just know there is someone who is switched on looking at this thread and having a laugh at how natty's think they get the edge with some extreme diet or workout program.

just cut 500 calories and do cardio.....if you want to accelerate fat loss there are drugs/hormone supplements for that. no need to go full retard and eat 800 calories a day. slow and steady always wins the race with cutting....give yourself 12-16 weeks and you wont have a problem.

It's just a tool you can use to cut. If you don't like it, then don't do it...
If you rather use drugs to accelerate fat loss, then do... Plenty of ways to reach a goal, it's a matter of preference.

[Misanthropic91]

This just looks like Keto and IF put together.

But what is the idea behind forcing yourself to go into ketosis only to then refeed and cancel it out right away? You realize thats what is making you feel like chit right?

Still gonna try this even though its a bad idea, lol.

[arn710]

This just looks like Keto and IF put together.

But what is the idea behind forcing yourself to go into ketosis only to then refeed and cancel it out right away? You realize thats what is making you feel like chit right?

Still gonna try this even though its a bad idea, lol.

Except its not really like either at all

PSMF is a protein only diet with extremely low calories. There are no fasting periods and high protein diets will not lead to ketosis

If you're really interested in doing this, you need a copy of Lyle McDonald's book "Rapid Fatloss Handbook"

[Madevilz]

This just looks like Keto and IF put together.

But what is the idea behind forcing yourself to go into ketosis only to then refeed and cancel it out right away? You realize thats what is making you feel like chit right?

Still gonna try this even though its a bad idea, lol.

It's not IF, you don't fast.
It's not Keto, you don't eat fat.

[DanSDA]

never knew about this diet plan srs
I "accidently" do it a few days by just drinking protein shakes all day.
however I didn't do it for multiple days as I thought this wud lead to loss in muscle mass!
so adapting to this type of dieting protocol wouldn't be super hard in that either haha.
will do this till start of February with 1 refeed a week as stated by the OP.
thanks brah!

[Misanthropic91]

Except its not really like either at all

PSMF is a protein only diet with extremely low calories. There are no fasting periods and high protein diets will not lead to ketosis


If you're really interested in doing this, you need a copy of Lyle McDonald's book "Rapid Fatloss Handbook"

Actually have that book but havent read it yet, will get on it in preparation for my next cut.

What do you think of this? I remember seeing you drop some knowledge in other posts.

It's not IF, you don't fast.
It's not Keto, you don't eat fat.

Gotcha, definitely gonna try this out as I cant stand cutting for long periods of time.

[Madevilz]

never knew about this diet plan srs
I "accidently" do it a few days by just drinking protein shakes all day.
however I didn't do it for multiple days as I thought this wud lead to loss in muscle mass!
so adapting to this type of dieting protocol wouldn't be super hard in that either haha.
will do this till start of February with 1 refeed a day as stated by the OP.
thanks brah!

Why would drink shakes all day instead of eating chicken breast, egg whites, tuna, etc? PSMF is already unhealthy as it is, you should at least get so micros from actual food.

[Madevilz]

Actually have that book but havent read it yet, will get on it in preparation for my next cut.

What do you think of this? I remember seeing you drop some knowledge in other posts.



Gotcha, definitely gonna try this out as I cant stand cutting for long periods of time.

Here's a calculator to help out with macros: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=118194401

[guyver79]

lol you just know there is someone who is switched on looking at this thread and having a laugh at how natty's think they get the edge with some extreme diet or workout program.

just cut 500 calories and do cardio.....if you want to accelerate fat loss there are drugs/hormone supplements for that. no need to go full retard and eat 800 calories a day. slow and steady always wins the race with cutting....give yourself 12-16 weeks and you wont have a problem..

By "switched on" I hope you don't mean the dyel kunts from the nutrition section?

The idea here is to not have to cut for 4 months, OP got good results in very short time which is relevant to everyone's interest.

[DanSDA]

Why would drink shakes all day instead of eating chicken breast, egg whites, tuna, etc? PSMF is already unhealthy as it is, you should at least get so micros from actual food.

convenience lol, but ill try to eat tuna/chicken breast/protein shake for my protein macros, I've to lose like 18 pounds on this cut, hopefully I can lose a few pounds quickly with this!
appreciate the thread bump brahs had no clue this was even a thing

[arn710]

Actually have that book but havent read it yet, will get on it in preparation for my next cut.

What do you think of this? I remember seeing you drop some knowledge in other posts.

I did it last year. 100% by the book which is what I recommend. I posted before/after pics on my instagram @anetemeyer

Its hard. Make sure you get plenty of veg. Do not get discouraged if the scale doesn't drop right away. Almost everyone reports a "whoosh" effect towards the end

If you understand how to effectively diet using conventional methods, I definitely think this is worth trying. It gets results quickly. You can't be using this as a crutch constantly though

[boojurns]

I did 7 days of this and ended up like in my av.

[DanSDA]

I did it last year. 100% by the book which is what I recommend. I posted before/after pics on my instagram @anetemeyer

Its hard. Make sure you get plenty of veg. Do not get discouraged if the scale doesn't drop right away. Almost everyone reports a "whoosh" effect towards the end

If you understand how to effectively diet using conventional methods, I definitely think this is worth trying. It gets results quickly. You can't be using this as a crutch constantly though

only source of carbs would be vegetables right?
also how many calories in carbs shud u eat on this diet?

[Madevilz]

I did 7 days of this and ended up like in my av.

mirin brah

[Madevilz]

only source of carbs would be vegetables right?
also how many calories in carbs shud u eat on this diet?

From Lyle Mcdonald's FAQ

Q: Are there acceptable amounts of carbohydrates and fat per meal on The Rapid Fat Loss Handbook Plan?

A: 3-5 grams of each per meal is about the max before you're no longer doing the diet in any way shape or form. That assumes 3-4 meals/day by the way and less would be better.

But allowing small amounts (and lest we forget most foods have trace amounts already so it's easy to let things get out of hand) can allow much more food variety which may help with adherence in the long-term.

The big danger is letting small amounts here and there add up to large amounts over time.




Question: I'm confused about how many veggies I can or should eat on the diet.

In the first edition of this book, I said that rapid fat loss dieters could eat essentially
unlimited amounts of fibrous vegetables and I want to amend that slightly here by giving
readers a quick reality check. On the one hand, it’s unlikely that most are going to
consume such a massive amount of fibrous vegetables that they will contribute a huge
number of calories. But it can certainly happen. At the same time, I don’t want to put
some sort of arbitrary intake value or number since this only adds an unneeded level of
complexity to what should otherwise be a fairly simple diet. A couple of examples should
help to make my point.

Consider a light female who only be consuming 400-500 calories per day on the rapid fat
loss plan. If she went nuts with fibrous vegetables, eating several cups of the above at each
of her four meals, she might easily add over 200 calories to her diet; that would represent
nearly 50% of her daily intake, cutting her daily deficit (and fat loss) considerably.
Contrast this to a large male who might be consuming 800-1000 calories (or more), that
same vegetable intake might be absolutely fine.

My point is not that you should automatically limit your vegetable intake; I strongly
suggest you consume some at each meal to keep you full, etc. At the same time, don’t
abuse vegetables to the point that you derail the diet and reduce (or eliminate your
supposed deficit).

[Misanthropic91]

I did it last year. 100% by the book which is what I recommend. I posted before/after pics on my instagram @anetemeyer

Its hard. Make sure you get plenty of veg. Do not get discouraged if the scale doesn't drop right away. Almost everyone reports a "whoosh" effect towards the end

If you understand how to effectively diet using conventional methods, I definitely think this is worth trying. It gets results quickly. You can't be using this as a crutch constantly though

Sounds good, repped. Am excited to try something different.

[Misanthropic91]

From Lyle Mcdonald's FAQ

Q: Are there acceptable amounts of carbohydrates and fat per meal on The Rapid Fat Loss Handbook Plan?

A: 3-5 grams of each per meal is about the max before you're no longer doing the diet in any way shape or form. That assumes 3-4 meals/day by the way and less would be better.

But allowing small amounts (and lest we forget most foods have trace amounts already so it's easy to let things get out of hand) can allow much more food variety which may help with adherence in the long-term.

The big danger is letting small amounts here and there add up to large amounts over time.




Question: I'm confused about how many veggies I can or should eat on the diet.

In the first edition of this book, I said that rapid fat loss dieters could eat essentially
unlimited amounts of fibrous vegetables and I want to amend that slightly here by giving
readers a quick reality check. On the one hand, it’s unlikely that most are going to
consume such a massive amount of fibrous vegetables that they will contribute a huge
number of calories. But it can certainly happen. At the same time, I don’t want to put
some sort of arbitrary intake value or number since this only adds an unneeded level of
complexity to what should otherwise be a fairly simple diet. A couple of examples should
help to make my point.

Consider a light female who only be consuming 400-500 calories per day on the rapid fat
loss plan. If she went nuts with fibrous vegetables, eating several cups of the above at each
of her four meals, she might easily add over 200 calories to her diet; that would represent
nearly 50% of her daily intake, cutting her daily deficit (and fat loss) considerably.
Contrast this to a large male who might be consuming 800-1000 calories (or more), that
same vegetable intake might be absolutely fine.

My point is not that you should automatically limit your vegetable intake; I strongly
suggest you consume some at each meal to keep you full, etc. At the same time, don’t
abuse vegetables to the point that you derail the diet and reduce (or eliminate your
supposed deficit).

You wanna shoot me a link to that FAQ brah?