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01-25-2016, 01:17 PM #31
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01-25-2016, 01:17 PM #32
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01-25-2016, 01:17 PM #33
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01-25-2016, 01:19 PM #34
I can second that bar bench phuks up your shoulders. I had a 355 flat bar bench max when I was 18 and after about a year after it started tweaking my shoulder when I lifted remotely heavy (225 for reps). I don't even bar bench anymore. Only dumbbell bench which surprisingly doeesn't tweak my shoulders. I'm pretty positive my technique was good too I just don't think there's anything you can do when you start getting up to that heavy weight.
I was pretty clueless on dieting before the misc. I'm cutting now until I get low BF for the first time in my life and never realized how simple it really was (tracking macros and only having cutting 500 calories less each day). Going along with this I thought that if I just kept putting on weight that my lifts would keep increasing linearly but eventually you reach your limit. I could easily weigh 300 if I wanted but I don't think if I bulked from my current weight of 240 (at 6'1) I would put on much more muscle strength at this point.
Sometimes lifting lighter weight for more reps can be more beneficial than heavier weight for less reps
The amount of muscle you put on during a bulk isn't near as much as what you think (unless you go lean bulk maybe?)
Me pesonally, I don't see the point of lifting heavy on squats/deadlifts anymore. I've had Osgood Schlatter and other knee problems and don't see why I would risk any pain or injury when I can just do lighter weight more reps
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01-25-2016, 01:19 PM #35
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01-25-2016, 01:21 PM #36
No of course not. I think negatives on bench in general are a pretty terrible idea but not solely because they put too much stress on the shoulders
Stress on the shoulder during a bench press comes from flaring too early and pushing the bar back and over the shoulders. Just putting it into a simple sentence. Like I said, its a form issueTraining log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=165829701
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01-25-2016, 01:21 PM #37
Throw away 5 pounds of chicken for muscle confusion
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01-25-2016, 01:22 PM #38
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01-25-2016, 01:22 PM #39
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01-25-2016, 01:24 PM #40
Incorrect, benching with poor form causes shoulder problems benching with correct form full ROM does not damage the shoulders. Decline is much worse on the shoulders because people allow their shoulders to rise upwards causing strain to be put directly on the shoulder.
You may be positive that your technique was good, but I guarantee that you are wrong.It'd be like staying fat while running marathons because it's more impressive to finish a marathon when you're overweight. It might be impressive in the short run, but in the long run it just doesn't make any sense. ~breathinglife
Raw competition lifts ....................Equipped
Squat 661
Bench 490...........................................666.9
Dead 585
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01-25-2016, 01:29 PM #41
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01-25-2016, 01:29 PM #42
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01-25-2016, 01:30 PM #43
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01-25-2016, 01:32 PM #44
I absolutely disagree that decline bench is bad for the shoulders. It puts the chest in a pre-stretched position, you don't have to go down as far, it's easier to engage the lats to help with the lift, etc. And, it targets the actual chest muscles better according to EEG scans. And, outside of bouncing the bar off of your chest, you can't cheat on decline by using your lower body like you can on flat bench.
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01-25-2016, 01:36 PM #45
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01-25-2016, 01:37 PM #46
Seriously man, you have a reading comprehension problem. Why do you think I even stated what I initially stated? If you flare your elbows out on 1rm the same as you would when you're warming up to stretch the chest of course it could be problematic. You are misconstruing what I am saying. THe heavier you go, the more stress and the greater chances of injury on bench or any exercise. The exercise itself is not inherently dangerous--it's the weight associated with it coupled with time under tension, frequency, ROM, etc. If you're consistently going HEAVY (let's say 85% of your 1RM for argument's sake) for your bench workouts and you're doing full reps then you are increasing your chances of fuking up your shoulders.
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01-25-2016, 01:38 PM #47
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01-25-2016, 01:39 PM #48It'd be like staying fat while running marathons because it's more impressive to finish a marathon when you're overweight. It might be impressive in the short run, but in the long run it just doesn't make any sense. ~breathinglife
Raw competition lifts ....................Equipped
Squat 661
Bench 490...........................................666.9
Dead 585
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01-25-2016, 01:39 PM #49
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01-25-2016, 01:40 PM #50
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01-25-2016, 01:40 PM #51
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01-25-2016, 01:41 PM #52
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01-25-2016, 01:42 PM #53
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01-25-2016, 01:47 PM #54
Time doing something does not make you knowledgeable, I have been excelling at the bench press for longer than you have. I have zero bench press related shoulder issues. I do have a shoulder problem that I received doing a muscle up, since I do my presses with correct form, my shoulder issue doesn't effect my ability to bench heavy.
It'd be like staying fat while running marathons because it's more impressive to finish a marathon when you're overweight. It might be impressive in the short run, but in the long run it just doesn't make any sense. ~breathinglife
Raw competition lifts ....................Equipped
Squat 661
Bench 490...........................................666.9
Dead 585
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01-25-2016, 01:49 PM #55
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01-25-2016, 01:51 PM #56"Be more concerned with your character than with your reputation. Your character is what you really are while your reputation is merely what others think you are."
- Dale Carnegie
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565x1 deadlif (now 675)- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmWh2TQkWAY
535x1 ATG squat- *****://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33BUVmD0p2Q
375x1 bench- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpwBQyN6q3w
230x1 OHP- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OPHi0_qgIQ
videos r old
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01-25-2016, 01:54 PM #57
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01-25-2016, 01:56 PM #58
Scott Press is an Iso exercise. Standard shoulder press works more muscles. Interesting exercise nonetheless if you want to target.
Thanks for tip. I did long distance running and my calves are naturally VERY lean from it. Ill try and do like tippy toe extensions in the squat position and see if i can work that muscle.
Max anything is a sure fire way to destroy yourself unless you on dat magic healing tech. I wish i knew about weighted dips, that did me in. I was doing 120lb dips FULL rom and holding in the bottom position. Ended up with bad left shoulder. Good info!
Interesting again. Some people wear sweaters to get more dry. Body will obviously burn more in the cold to keep you going. And the huge bonus of that extra energy from being warm blooded creatures. Im not sure how this works with injuries though?
Any science behind this? Sounds like more of a general rule of More Rom, more effort, more test. I feel that lower body workouts help with test, especially thigh areas.
Sounds like more effort = more results.
Some interesting info nonetheless. Repped
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01-25-2016, 01:56 PM #59
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01-25-2016, 01:57 PM #60It'd be like staying fat while running marathons because it's more impressive to finish a marathon when you're overweight. It might be impressive in the short run, but in the long run it just doesn't make any sense. ~breathinglife
Raw competition lifts ....................Equipped
Squat 661
Bench 490...........................................666.9
Dead 585
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