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    I'm not even a fan of loading my ARs by racking it, I pretty much always load them with the bolt locked to the rear and hitting the bolt release.
    whys that? is it just because the chance of short stroking it? not trying to question the methodology to that, but genuinely curious.
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    Originally Posted by TylerA120 View Post
    whys that? is it just because the chance of short stroking it? not trying to question the methodology to that, but genuinely curious.
    yes I would imagine. Have done it once and seen it once. The one I saw, I could have sworn it looked like a solid load. Always good to practice those drills for said circumstances.

    any of you guys ever seen a slamfire with ar15 with factory loads. I have not. Just curious
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    Originally Posted by RThoe View Post

    For me it's all about speed. Nothing is faster or more efficient than having an AR on safe with a round in the chamber.
    No doubt. Is AR your go to HD? I viewed it as a long term storage low readiness approach. It stays in the safe as it is. I have spent far more time working with handguns and that's primary go to for HD/SD.

    Originally Posted by RThoe View Post

    Having to rack it, you could also potentially run the risk of short stroking it and tbh, I'm not even a fan of loading my ARs by racking it, I pretty much always load them with the bolt locked to the rear and hitting the bolt release.
    Potential for short stroking, especially under stress, is something I hadn't considered and that's (for me) perhaps the most compelling reason for chambered/safety on. The addition of a BCM GF charging handle makes a world of difference in terms of a strong fast charge compared to standard handle (which with oil, sweat, etc, my fingers have slipped off during a class and I did short stroke the rifle) and it's one of the of the few additions/mods I added. I'm something of a minimalist in my old age.


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    Even in Afghanistan there were only a couple instances which I placed my weapon on fire without engaging, and both times were with the M2 .50, never my M4.

    Safety always on has just been engraved into me and it really doesn't make any sense any other way, imo.
    Makes sense and I know that's drilled hard into your noggin'
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    Originally Posted by EQUlLIBRIUM View Post
    yes I would imagine. Have done it once and seen it once. The one I saw, I could have sworn it looked like a solid load. Always good to practice those drills for said circumstances.

    any of you guys ever seen a slamfire with ar15 with factory loads. I have not. Just curious
    makes sense. It occurred to me once when I chambered my first round out of the box. I can definetely see why loading via release is more certain than the CH. good point.

    also never seen nor heard of such
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    Originally Posted by TylerA120 View Post
    whys that? is it just because the chance of short stroking it? not trying to question the methodology to that, but genuinely curious.
    Pretty much, yes. I've seen it happen before. Aside from clearing malfunctions, I basically never touch my charging handle.

    I'm not saying racking your AR to load it is wrong, FYI. This is just my preference.

    Originally Posted by EQUlLIBRIUM View Post
    yes I would imagine. Have done it once and seen it once. The one I saw, I could have sworn it looked like a solid load. Always good to practice those drills for said circumstances.

    any of you guys ever seen a slamfire with ar15 with factory loads. I have not. Just curious
    I have not.

    Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    No doubt. Is AR your go to HD? I viewed it as a long term storage low readiness approach. It stays in the safe as it is. I have spent far more time working with handguns and that's primary go to for HD/SD.


    Potential for short stroking, especially under stress, is something I hadn't considered and that's (for me) perhaps the most compelling reason for chambered/safety on. The addition of a BCM GF charging handle makes a world of difference in terms of a strong fast charge compared to standard handle (which with oil, sweat, etc, my fingers have slipped off during a class and I did short stroke the rifle) and it's one of the of the new additions/mods I added. I'm something of a minimalist in my old age.


    Makes sense and I know that's drilled hard into your noggin'
    I have my G26 in my nightstand and my AR right next to my bed in my walk-in closet. I haven't had to grab one, but the AR will be the first thing I grab if I do need anything. I don't want to keep my AR in plain view next to my bed which is why I keep the 26 there, even though the AR will be the first thing I grab. I guess one is none and two is one or whatever.

    My mentality is if you're going to keep any guns accessible for HD, they should be chambered and ready to go (if we're talking about most weapons, I think one of you mentioned something about a random gun you keep with an empty chamber for a specific reason).

    I had only ever used a standard CH until Procon sent me a BCM (I think the medium sized one) and I currently use that on my "go to" AR. I am a fan of it and even though I got by with the standard one when I was in the Army, the added size of the BCM is definitely a nice feature. I'm a convert.

    Drilled over and over and over..... lol
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    do website ever waive HAZMAT fees for primers and powders?

    it would be more economical to drive 2 hours to buy it from a B&M store

    I use my CH for the first mag - I have yet to have an issue

    I have never had a slam fire
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    Originally Posted by RThoe View Post
    Pretty much, yes. I've seen it happen before. Aside from clearing malfunctions, I basically never touch my charging handle.

    I'm not saying racking your AR to load it is wrong, FYI. This is just my preference.



    I have not.
    Yeah it makes sense, and I'll probably start loading via the release as well simply because of that. I'd rather know for a fact the weapon will fire when needed to rather than the possibility of a SS.
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    Originally Posted by rtm0004 View Post
    do website ever waive HAZMAT fees for primers and powders?

    it would be more economical to drive 2 hours to buy it from a B&M store

    I use my CH for the first mag - I have yet to have an issue

    I have never had a slam fire
    midways is like 19 I think. Not aware of anyone waving it

    depends on how much your time is worth
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    Originally Posted by TylerA120 View Post
    makes sense. It occurred to me once when I chambered my first round out of the box. I can definetely see why loading via release is more certain than the CH. good point.

    also never seen nor heard of such
    I'm a fan of the BCM GF, which makes for a very strong fast charging of the gun which can reduce potential for short stroking and other issues. I learned of it as a class where I'd just short stroked the rifle because my fingers slipped off the standard handle which now had sweat, oil, etc on it. One of the best additions to the AR I have added.
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    midways is like 19 I think. Not aware of anyone waving it

    depends on how much your time is worth
    it would take a huge order - like 10 years worth of reloading supplies to make it worth it

    I'll just wait until I go somewhere else - the local place has primers and a lot of powder - just not the powder I need/want for 6.8
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    I'm a fan of the BCM GF, which makes for a very strong fast charging of the gun which can reduce potential for short stroking and other issues. I learned of it as a class where I'd just short stroked the rifle because my fingers slipped off the standard handle which now had sweat, oil, etc on it. One of the best additions to the AR I have added.
    I contemplated buying a BCM CH for a while, but it's not something I especially need. at the moment I take my AR to the range occasionally and have it bedside for HD. If I was taking classes or carrying my AR was part of my job, I'd definetely invest in it ASAP. I probably will when I have a disposable income anyway.
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    I contemplated buying a BCM CH for a while, but it's not something I especially need. at the moment I take my AR to the range occasionally and have it bedside for HD. If I was taking classes or carrying my AR was part of my job, I'd definetely invest in it ASAP. I probably will when I have a disposable income anyway.
    This is my conclusion. Can't justify spending $40 on a part that is rarely used in my case
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    Originally Posted by TylerA120 View Post
    I contemplated buying a BCM CH for a while, but it's not something I especially need. at the moment I take my AR to the range occasionally and have it bedside for HD. If I was taking classes or carrying my AR was part of my job, I'd definetely invest in it ASAP. I probably will when I have a disposable income anyway.
    What's your current AR?

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    Originally Posted by Ikeman83 View Post
    What's your current AR?
    Colt 6920


    all internals are milspec / factory.
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    Originally Posted by TylerA120 View Post
    Colt 6920


    all internals are milspec / factory.
    How much do you have invested in that guy right now? (including optic)

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    Originally Posted by TylerA120 View Post
    Colt 6920
    [img]http://i.imgur.com/TF8VslU.jpg[img]

    all internals are milspec / factory.
    I would upgrade the trigger before the CH
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    Originally Posted by TylerA120 View Post
    Yeah it makes sense, and I'll probably start loading via the release as well simply because of that. I'd rather know for a fact the weapon will fire when needed to rather than the possibility of a SS.
    Another reason I lock it to the rear and use the bolt release is because that is how I reload the rifle as well. I don't pull the CH to release the bolt, I hit the bolt release. Even if it's slight, it's still building that consistency.

    Originally Posted by rtm0004 View Post
    This is my conclusion. Can't justify spending $40 on a part that is rarely used in my case
    Same and I would not have one if it wasn't for Pro. I definitely like it, but I won't be putting them on all my ARs, that's for sure. Would I buy one if this one needed to be replaced for some reason? Perhaps.
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    Originally Posted by RThoe View Post
    Another reason I lock it to the rear and use the bolt release is because that is how I reload the rifle as well. I don't pull the CH to release the bolt, I hit the bolt release. Even if it's slight, it's still building that consistency.



    Same and I would not have one if it wasn't for Pro. I definitely like it, but I won't be putting them on all my ARs, that's for sure. Would I buy one if this one needed to be replaced for some reason? Perhaps.

    I bought mine because it came with my upper. I bought one for my first rifle because I wanted to "enhance" my PSA build and I was really new to rifles when I was buying things for that gun.

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    Originally Posted by Ikeman83 View Post
    I bought mine because it came with my upper. I bought one for my first rifle because I wanted to "enhance" my PSA build and I was really new to rifles when I was buying things for that gun.
    If (when) I ever buy a BCM upper, I'll prob get one added on with the BCG just for the $
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    Originally Posted by Ikeman83 View Post
    How much do you have invested in that guy right now? (including optic)
    Rifle: $900
    Optic & CW: $100(?), received those two for Christmas
    Magpul chit: $70-80
    5 g2 pmags: $45
    Total: $1,120 give or take.

    add an additional $300 if ammo is included
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    Originally Posted by TylerA120 View Post
    I contemplated buying a BCM CH for a while, but it's not something I especially need. at the moment I take my AR to the range occasionally and have it bedside for HD. If I was taking classes or carrying my AR was part of my job, I'd definetely invest in it ASAP. I probably will when I have a disposable income anyway.
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    To me, the cost so low and the potential benefit high, I felt it was worth it. It's a game changer in terms of positive fast charge and lowered potential for problems. It was one of the few upgrades I made. Obviously, people do just fine without it.
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    so the new ruger is the truth?

    been waiting to see one in action

    and if we are talking 308 rifle who was socom m1 for 1400
    It's a good out-of-the-box setup for long range shooting. Especially 6.5 Creed.
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    bought an hdmi cable on amazon and ended up not needing it. Went to return it and once I finished the prompts it told me to just keep it. cool, thanks amazon
    I've had that happen a couple times. They must figure the cost of the return shipping outweighs the cost of the item?
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