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    LOL @ commercial pre-workout supplements.

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    Originally Posted by havoc00 View Post
    aware me
    Rob riches pissed dirty and he blamed craze (he was sponsored by another company also) and they did a test on craze and found traces of meth or whatever
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    LOL @ commercial pre-workout supplements.

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    Originally Posted by havoc00 View Post
    whats the dosing guidelines like how much was in a scoop of og jack3d? and do you mix it with anything? or just water
    dosing says 25mg to 50mg and NEVER exceed

    i took 40mg and workout was pretty intense. This is coming from someone who took 3 scoops of craze/jack3d consistently
    I'd assume jack3d had around 10-20mg per serving
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    i remember taking that fat burner one with the purple and white bottle..... hooooooooooly sh*t.
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    Originally Posted by Techriding101 View Post
    dosing says 25mg to 50mg and NEVER exceed

    i took 40mg and workout was pretty intense. This is coming from someone who took 3 scoops of craze/jack3d consistently
    I'd assume jack3d had around 10-20mg per serving
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    I loved craze but that chit fcked me up. I did not feel normal on it. I remember at the time, I still wasn't driving so I sat down on a bench waiting for my ride and I just started crying for no reason at all. I remember it gave me the best tunnel vision ever and a ton of confidence. Honestly though, it only worked for me the first week. The taste was absolute chit too.

    I think pre workouts are stupid now though ever since one gave me a nasty panic attack that literally made me have anxiety for like 6 months after. I would get random heart palpitations too.

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    Originally Posted by Eandretta96 View Post
    I loved craze but that chit fcked me up. I did not feel normal on it. I remember at the time, I still wasn't driving so I sat down on a bench waiting for my ride and I just started crying for no reason at all. I remember it gave me the best tunnel vision ever and a ton of confidence. Honestly though, it only worked for me the first week. The taste was absolute chit too.

    I think pre workouts are stupid now though ever since one gave me a nasty panic attack that literally made me have anxiety for like 6 months after. I would get random heart palpitations too.

    and Jack3e was just solid in general. Taste was decent, clean energy, and the price was pretty good.
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    Originally Posted by Eandretta96 View Post
    I think pre workouts are stupid now though ever since one gave me a nasty panic attack that literally made me have anxiety for like 6 months after. I would get random heart palpitations too.
    I think u may have some other issues bro
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    Originally Posted by havoc00 View Post
    I think u may have some other issues bro
    It's actually pretty common. Just lol at pre-workouts regardless anyways.
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    Originally Posted by Eandretta96 View Post
    It's actually pretty common. Just lol at pre-workouts regardless anyways.
    6 months sounds long man
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    Originally Posted by Eandretta96 View Post
    It's actually pretty common. Just lol at pre-workouts regardless anyways.
    Never heard of that before (srs)
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    Originally Posted by havoc00 View Post
    6 months sounds long man
    The thing is that panic attack led to me thinking I had heart problems despite going to the doctors multiple times. What really helped me though is simply going out more and not having time to think about it. I'm good now. Pre- Workouts are fine. I used to love them, but I never realized how screwed up my sleep was and in general how bad it made me feel.
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    Originally Posted by saucebatman View Post
    Never heard of that before (srs)
    Just happened to one of my friends. We were talking about it yesterday. He said he hasn't taken any since. The weird thing is that I can't even have a cup of coffee without getting anxiety now, when before I could take 2 caffeine pills without it affecting me. I loved craze because it just made me feel focused and gave me euphoria.
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    Originally Posted by Eandretta96 View Post
    The thing is that panic attack led to me thinking I had heart problems despite going to the doctors multiple times. What really helped me though is simply going out more and not having time to think about it. I'm good now. Pre- Workouts are fine. I used to love them, but I never realized how screwed up my sleep was and in general how bad it made me feel.
    Same for me. Craze was ****ed. I became so obsessive about lifting I would get up at 4 every morning and lift for like 4 hours. Sometimes i'd take more craze and go in the evening. I started getting frequent heart palpitations and when craze was finally banned I had depression for about 2 months and my energy flatlined. Couldn't even go to the gym on 500mg+ of Caffeine. Took me a long time to get over that stuff after 2 years of pretty much daily use of 3 scoops.
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    it was great, first time I used jack3d felt like I wanted to smash my head through the drywall. now i just use a 200mg caffeine pill
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    Just took some Jack3d but I never knew the old stuff so I can't miss it. I hear it was like add er all so I would've definitely enjoyed it
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    dosing says 25mg to 50mg and NEVER exceed

    i took 40mg and workout was pretty intense. This is coming from someone who took 3 scoops of craze/jack3d consistently
    I'd assume jack3d had around 10-20mg per serving
    I take somewhere around 100mg of DMAA daily.
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    Just took some Jack3d but I never knew the old stuff so I can't miss it. I hear it was like add er all so I would've definitely enjoyed it
    the new jacked? jacked up?
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    There's a company out of Orlando that is pushing a pwo that VERY similar to OG crazed srs
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    Originally Posted by havoc00 View Post
    So whats the best cracked out one on the market now? Just got done another tub of mesomorph anything stronger out?
    Pretty much I do what the OP did. I get my favorite tasting PWO and add DMAA to it since the new otc sht out there doesnt have it. I also add l-theanine. My current PWO is Mr Hyde apple flavor. I am looking for something better tho.

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    Originally Posted by blackflgst View Post
    There's a company out of Orlando that is pushing a pwo that VERY similar to OG crazed srs
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