It's SICK how true the 80/20 rule is.

[DULIFTER]

Honestly if u knew how much dik even the "perfect girl" took or how superficial womens standards are it'd crush ur world .

Can confirm. Girls entire lives revolve around socialising, sex and relationships.. everything they do, watch, read, listen to. It is their lives from 12 up. You cannot even begin to fathom the amount of men she has met. It is just constant from 12 to always be talking to a couple of guys texting, seeing people on weekends, parties, meeting new guys everywhere no matter where they go. You just look at their lives and how easy it is for them and how inescapable it is and then times that by the amount of days, weeks, years since 12 and holy ****.

[BamHurgler]

or rather someone who is not deluded and truly saw things for what they are

if you're not good looking, you should just kill yourself. women don't want you and who gives a fuk about them

This is dumb af. Why would you define your life around women? Make your own meaning to life, make a breakthrough, discover something new, make your mark in history. If you truly believe that you should kill yourself because women dont want to sleep with you, maybe you should kill yourself.

[ectobruh]

You had to beat out some fierce competitors, but congratulations, you are the most negative and pessimistic person on the misc. Jesus Christ

A fuk i give not.

[TradeKing]

Honestly if u knew how much dik even the "perfect girl" took or how superficial womens standards are it'd crush ur world .


Idgaf anymore. I jus wanna fuk and go to bed. Ive lived alone for 6 years, have 5k and counting in my savings.

When ur out there on ur own survival kicks in and all that matters is money,vitality and family. No bitch was ever there for me, showed me compassion when i didn't have chit except. my own mother. If anything relationships are about nothing but compromise.


What do women talk about with their friends?

-what u can do for them
-how much money u make
-when she wants to move in
- how ur gonna buy her usless sh*t
-compare u to actors and literally rank u up with the 20+ options they have
-laugh about how broke u are when u lose it all





The fukk do i need that for? Women have nothing but pussy and negativity. Yeah ill play the game if i need it or get them relationship feels..but i have completely severed myself of the mother-like figure need. They dont exist anymore. Deal with it.

I wish i could take all the time back ive wasted on some of these chicks. Some werent even worth the chase even though i got the ass. Plus im horrified of having kids in this sh*t generation. ..not for me

I feel ya bro


And add to that list of what she talks about with her friends

-ur dink size
-ur sex skills
-how those compare to all her past partners and friends's BFs




I don't know how anyone can love a female. I could never love a creature that is so self absorbed, immature and shallow. I love pussy but I hate women.

[WriteOrDie]

ITT miscers are upset to find that women are women.

No chit lol. I know we were all sold on that Disney fairytale bullchit at some point, but adjust your expectations instead of blaming women for being what they are instead of lamenting the fact that they won't ever be your mother, they won't ever be your bro, they won't ever share your interests in things external to themself. They won't be your best friend and they probably won't love you forever.

No woman will ever love you like you mother did--unconditionally. But it's not like you're capable of unconditional love either; if she sloots, she was just a sloot all along. Let her blow up after 10 years; you gonna stay faithful?

Women were never more 'quality' than they are now. They were just reacting to a different set of external circumstances. It's what women do--and what they want to do and why men throughout history have had to tell women how to act and enforce those directives socially. Take the sweetest, most domestic housewife fantasy from 1950 you and teleport her to her 2015 with no dad and a slutty mom; is she 'quality' anymore?

No quality women, just quality circumstances. Create the best circumstances you can to enjoy life on your terms, not some fantasy you were sold as a kid.

[epixs]

top 10% man checkin in...

Pussy will not make your life complete, trust me. Think of it like a luxury that depending on you, can afford or not . The better you get, the more and more women you attract.

[idno]

the only thing that annoys me about 80/20 is the obvious lack of effort women have in conversation with a male in the bottom 80%. I always lol watching a girl actually trying in conversation with a top dude compared to her complete indifference when talking to a "bum".

[Condyle]

I don't even know why it's a debate. It's one of those few things which are so self-evident, it's safe to waste not one more moment wondering about it.

The only hiccup is how 80 per cent of both men and women over 40 aren't single, which is the obvious mathematical outcome. I think the 80/20 rule has always been there, but potential to act on it was much lower even five years ago. Now it's an unfettered free-for-all, out comes the genie. The fraction of single over-40s for both genders will explode in coming years.

I have a completely unfounded suspicion the avoidance of this is a big reason why marriage was so emphasised in western culture for so long - to avoid the harem phenomenon. Loads of dudes achieve and work and kick ass basically to snare a female. If 80 per cent are dealt out, that's a *massive* social force dead in the water, sitting at home sadly playing Xbox. Society needs those dudes out there, driving society forward. It also delivers women to ultimate unhappiness as well - 80 per cent doesn't go into 20 per cent, and not all of the 80 per cent of men who were ignored will leap up and play provider once the fun part's over. I think the massive dropoff in providers will surprise many people in the coming decades. MGTOW is fascinating not because it's widespread, but because it exists at all.

20 years ago they would be laughed out the bar. Now it's a valid social criticism.

[Fang2]

lol This thread always comes back one way or another on the misc. Stop complaining about not getting women, and posting on the misc crying about instead of talking to an actual female.

[DULIFTER]

I don't even know why it's a debate. It's one of those few things which are so self-evident, it's safe to waste not one more moment wondering about it. It has a strong biological basis, a strong social basis, a strong psychological basis, and owning eyes attached to a brain settles the matter.

The only hiccup is how 80 per cent of both men and women over 40 aren't single, which is the obvious mathematical outcome. I think society doesn't like to talk about single people, and there are much more than people think. I also think the 80/20 rule has always been there, but potential to act on it was much lower even five years ago. Now it's an unfettered free-for-all, out comes the genie.

I have a completely unfounded suspicion the avoidance of this is a big reason why marriage was so emphasised in western culture for so long - to avoid the harem phenomenon. Loads of dudes achieve and work and kick ass basically to snare a female. If 80 per cent are dealt out, that's a *massive* social force dead in the water, sitting at home sadly playing Xbox. Society needs those dudes out there, driving society forward. It also delivers women to ultimate unhappiness as well - 80 per cent doesn't go into 20 per cent, and not all of the 80 per cent who were ignored will leap up and play provider once the fun part's over. I think the massive dropoff in providers will surprise many people in the coming decades. MGTOW is fascinating not because it's widespread, but because it exists at all.

20 years ago they would be laughed out the bar. Now it's a valid social criticism.

Yeah that's pretty obvious. When the villages and first societies were forming they obviously encouraged and even enforced pairing to maintain harmony. In a small community with the 80/20 rule, the 80 men are eventually going to cause chaos.

[Condyle]

Yeah that's pretty obvious. When the villages and first societies were forming they obviously encouraged and even enforced pairing to maintain harmony. In a small community with the 80/20 rule, the 80 men are eventually going to cause chaos.

Bingo. You hear of harems of hundreds of women - I always wonder what the paired hundreds of men were doing. Now I write that, probably bleeding out in a field. But certainly not adding to genetic diversity, and definitely not hunting that extra mammoth so Grugina will give him some play. Prehistory Supreme Gentlemen, is more likely. Outcome is chaos, as you say.

[OldNewb29]

Am I only one that thought this thread was about ground beef ?

[DownhillRider]

Can confirm. Girls entire lives revolve around socialising, sex and relationships.. everything they do, watch, read, listen to. It is their lives from 12 up. You cannot even begin to fathom the amount of men she has met. It is just constant from 12 to always be talking to a couple of guys texting, seeing people on weekends, parties, meeting new guys everywhere no matter where they go. You just look at their lives and how easy it is for them and how inescapable it is and then times that by the amount of days, weeks, years since 12 and holy ****.

BRUTAL

15 year old ********s have had more sex than most miscers combined and yet people still see them as "children" just LOL

[APwn]

So 20% of the guys get 80% of the girls. Solution? Put yourself in the top 20%. It's really not hard.

[Kev1972]

[Nicklol]

You had to beat out some fierce competitors, but congratulations, you are the most negative and pessimistic person on the misc. Jesus Christ

It was a solid post tho..srs

[MHannibal]

I think the problem here is that men that believe in the 80/20 rule are failing to remember that men bring more than just looks to the table. Yes 20% of men will be approached per say by 80% of the women based purely on looks, but that's not to say the other 60% can't make up for it in other areas, and they do. You see it all the time and it's called being a man.

As much as it's an easy option to moan about it, stop turning into women ... I swear half the problem with feminism is that it's turning men into moaning messes.

[mrcarter1990]

xplain to me wtf this 80/20 rule means to you

dis

in for answers

[ectobruh]

the only thing that annoys me about 80/20 is the obvious lack of effort women have in conversation with a male in the bottom 80%. I always lol watching a girl actually trying in conversation with a top dude compared to her complete indifference when talking to a "bum".

Too much real life. When i see that sh*t i cash in my chips and bounce.

[Goyim]

feelsbadman

[psychosylocibin]

yup, and if youre fit, decently groomed and dressed, youll be able to at least score with fun and cute girls... model-looking women are almost always boring and vapid anyway... give me a girl with a cute face and decent body/great attitude over one of those any day

The problem in today's dating culture is that this isn't typically the cause. Guys who are fit/groomed/dressed will struggle far more than a girl who is fit/dressed well. Why the phuck do you NEVER see girls who are fit/dressed well/cute complaining about not being able to get men but the opposite is true everywhere.

[MrSchons]

Am I only one that thought this thread was about ground beef ?

Yes, this thread is about pounded beef curtains.

[FriendOfFrank]

Yes, I too have noticed this in the gym. 20% of the guys are lifting 80% of the weights.

[cackeye]

Yea because you are comparing good looking females to ugly or average males. Obviously only a few dudes will bang the 8/10+ HHBS .

There is no rules if we are talking about relationships in the same league. And ugly females have it way worse than an ugly dude. At least an ugly dude can lift and still get respect. An ugly female is basically.... a man

Nope, only a few dudes bang ANY girl 0-10/10. Not just 8+/10's.

Because ALL girls can and do get 8/10 guys, therefore they don't bother with anything lower.

[Megalomaniacal]

you NEVER see girls who are fit/dressed well/cute complaining about not being able to get men

sure you do,

just they mean not getting the top 5% men

[cackeye]

girl with a cute face and decent body/great attitude

you just described a 7/10 female, which most people can't attain.
You think what you are asking for isn't that much, but in reality, you are asking for above the average....

The "average" girl is in pretty bad shape, just like men.
To say "decent shape" is actually "above average."
On top of that, you want a cute face, and a good personality....

6-7 body
6-7 face
7-10 personality.

congratulations, you want a 6.5-7.5/10 female, just like every other guy out there.

Funny how if a girl is in 'decent shape' with an average face, she's already 'above average' meaning she's already at least 6/10.

But if a guy is in 'decent shape' he can still be significantly below average. For a guy to reach 6/10 status, he needs not just to be in 'decent shape', but pretty jacked+lean, fairly tall (I'd say above 5ft 11in), and have a WELL-above-average face (not to mention have a prestigious job and social status). Also, he probably has to be white (if not, double every other requirement to compensate) because whilst men don't care about height or race, almost every girl (from any race) wants a tall, handsome white male.

The requirements for men are so much higher. If a guy is average height (5ft 9in), in 'decent shape' and has an average face, he could easily be rated as low as a 2/10 or 3/10. That same girl (average height so 5ft 4in, average face, decent shape) is rated at a 6/10 or 7/10. She slaps on high heels and make-up and she could easily be an 8/10. Men have no such tricks to boost their /10 rating.

So, you can see how an objectively physically average man and woman are roughly equal in their relative raw stats, yet society rates the man 2/10 and the woman 8/10.

It's just so much harder to be considered objectively 'attractive' as a man (because females standards are so much higher), hence only very few men are considered attractive, and that is why the 80/20 (i.e. the 95/5) rule exists.

[cackeye]

So 20% of the guys get 80% of the girls. Solution? Put yourself in the top 20%. It's really not hard.

Lol, says you. You'll never be in the top 20% because of your height alone (even if you had Brad Pitt's face).

[Murgatroid]

lol ur delusional if u think females date guys in their own league. Its well known females date up. Also females have makeup, hair extensions, push up bras, fake eyelashes, fake nails, high heels, corsets, etc to make them look a lot better than what they actually look like, with a guy if you are ugly you are ****ed and have to either get a lot of money or social status which is difficult af. Also lol at u thinking an ugly female has it harder, just go look at ******** profile pictures and the amount of likes and nuthuggers ugly females have compared to ugly males, go take a look at an ugly females tinder account but prepare ur mind to be blown.

If you were right, then you would see fat ugly chicks with good-looking guys. It's not that common, or at least not more common than seeing an ugly dude with a hot chick.

Anyways, most "ugly" girls are really just overweight. I haven't seen many thin girls with good bodies who weren't dateable.

I get sick and tired of seeing people harp on about how women have it easier. It's true that women have more action coming toward them than men do. BUT, they don't control where their action is coming from. A woman can't make a guy hit on her and if she chases a guy she looks desperate. A guy can meanwhile go after any woman he wants. What kind of passive mindset do you have where you would want to be restricted solely to people who hit on you?

[StinkholePatrol]

I think its like 90/10 on tinder tbh.

I made a profile to check my competition, at least in my area i'm def top 20. Very few lifting body's or aesthetic male faces in my area. But I definitely see like one chad per 10-20 males and I suspect they are getting literally all the 8/10 +.

Only getting 10-15 real matches a day (Swipe right on everything) and most are whales. Never 8/10's , 7/10 rare, most 1-4 range.

[Thillygooth]

My world view has always been that you can go two up or two down in relation to numbers before society starts looking at the couple strange. The higher up the ladder either of the parties are the harder it is to hold them. 6/10 can go as low as 4 or as high as an 8 before society wonders why the higher is with the lower and starts making comments. 6 with an upper 8 will have a hard time holding on to her/him.

Personally, I consider myself around a 6/10 and since my marriage ended have dated a 7 that wanted to marry and i was a moron and did'nt. I also dated a what I believe was a true 8, and she ran off with someone else. Maybe I just look for my experiences to validate my beliefs