Denver just won the most questionable game of all time.

[Snooging]

I'm not even a pats fan but holy fuk at your logic...

So pats were gifted things by Denver making bad plays with no ref assistance. But the Pats can't have a gripe about their big plays being wiped away by bogus penalties or no calls on huge plays by Denver which got them back/won them the game? Pretty sure if Pats just lost the game because they made more mistakes than Denver nobody would have an issue with it.

We know bad calls happen but this was a game where the calls were incredibly one sided and anyone who isn't majorly biased could see that.

...what? My point is **** happens. Bad calls happen to every single team in the NFL every single time. And also that the pats may not have been even put in the situation to even be competitive if those certain things didn't happen. Do you not see the bigger picture? A million variables could have changed the scope of the game. Stop ****ing acting like the refs are the ONLY reason they lost. Suck it the **** up. Do you think BB is telling them team they should have won if it wasn't for the refs? Give me a ****ing break

[bpatel82]

lmao @ the crybabies in this thread.. there were some bad calls. But the whiners act like it happened only to pats. Bad calls happen in all games and to all teams. It was your teams turn to be on the receiving end yesterday... Get over it ****s..

[compan]

lmao @ the crybabies in this thread.. there were some bad calls. But the whiners act like it happened only to pats. Bad calls happen in all games and to all teams. It was your teams turn to be on the receiving end yesterday... Get over it ****s..

This for the most part. Bad calls happen all the time and to every team. These were some of MANY bad calls this year, but a lot of the Patriots detractors in here need to realize this isn't just a fan base complaining about calls going their way. This game very well could have been the difference in home field advantage deep into the playoffs. For poor calls to dictate that kind of outcome, it is a little more than just a bad call and should draw a lot of attention.

Other people can chime in but these calls for this game, the Seahawks/Lions call that changed the outcome of that game...what else? I feel like there was at least 1 other call that directly impacted the end of a close game. Refs are human at the end of the day, but some of these are so obvious (especially the Seahawks/Lions one where the ref was clearly staring at the ball the whole time) there needs to be some safety checks. There are 2 teams on the field and that should be all that matters in a game.

[outfoxxed]

You're a fuking idiot.

Tuck rule was actually properly called by the refs - bad rule/right call.

there are tons of obscure rules refs can choose to call but dont just like they can call holding/PI on every single play. calling the tuck rule at that particular moment when it's been called at most once in history is one of those cases of refs bringing up obscure rules to further their agenda.

[CurryTech777]

Clearly you aren't aware of wtf you're talking about. Read the post right above yours to get some actual facts about the play you're crying about.

Then again it wouldn't be another day on the sports misc without you failing in football discussions.

nah im sweet. ur a ***got too. any1 that claims tuck rule was the right or correct call is a fool. the ball wasnt tucked away and his arm wasnt moving = fumble. was a fumble then, is one now.

***got

[bezarker]

Patriots "elite" D fell to a second string quarterback.

- Von M was held all game, was finally called in OT
- Gronk PI call was garbage and the holding call was iffy
- What other penalties "broke the game"?

[HankScorp1o]

I'm not even a pats fan but holy fuk at your logic...

So pats were gifted things by Denver making bad plays with no ref assistance. But the Pats can't have a gripe about their big plays being wiped away by bogus penalties or no calls on huge plays by Denver which got them back/won them the game? Pretty sure if Pats just lost the game because they made more mistakes than Denver nobody would have an issue with it.

We know bad calls happen but this was a game where the calls were incredibly one sided and anyone who isn't majorly biased could see that.

[KC2892]

[HotCheetos]

All teams are dealing with injuries, but that's a weak question because the Patriots key injuries far exceed those of every team.

You say a lot of dumb **** on here, but this has to be the dumbest. Injuries aren't an excuse, except when you have a lot of them...wat? Packers were just as beat up with their WR/TE core earlier in the year and you were blaming Rodgers, that's fine if you want to choose that argument, but you can't have it both ways *******.

[HoustonMiscer]

The officiating wasn't good but lettuce be reality, they were up 21 to 7. The Pats returner fumbled the ball on a return and the momentum seemed to go to the Broncos. I know it's snowing and bad weather conditions but you just can't turn the ball over like that especially on the road.

[rampagefc77]

This for the most part. Bad calls happen all the time and to every team. These were some of MANY bad calls this year, but a lot of the Patriots detractors in here need to realize this isn't just a fan base complaining about calls going their way. This game very well could have been the difference in home field advantage deep into the playoffs. For poor calls to dictate that kind of outcome, it is a little more than just a bad call and should draw a lot of attention.

Other people can chime in but these calls for this game, the Seahawks/Lions call that changed the outcome of that game...what else? I feel like there was at least 1 other call that directly impacted the end of a close game. Refs are human at the end of the day, but some of these are so obvious (especially the Seahawks/Lions one where the ref was clearly staring at the ball the whole time) there needs to be some safety checks. There are 2 teams on the field and that should be all that matters in a game.

Packers missed out on home field advantage in the playoffs years ago because of the fail mary call... No calls will probably surpass that. And believe it or not, that wasn't even the worst call of the game...

Every fan base could point to terrible calls both for and against their team most games. I only routinely watch the packers but there have been some legit awful calls that have dictated games this year, mainly against but even a few for the packers. It's just part of the game. Teams need to be good enough that a few calls won't dictate the game unfortunately.

[bezarker]

[4backcracks]

Patriots "elite" D fell to a second string quarterback.

- Von M was held all game, was finally called in OT
- Gronk PI call was garbage and the holding call was iffy
- What other penalties "broke the game"?

Patriots "elite" D held the Broncos to 7 points through 3 quarters. A muffed punt and the awful officiating put points on the board in the 4th as much as anything.

The most obvious ones that come to mind..

The "extra timeout" the Broncos were gifted and the 10 seconds of runoff that somehow still occurred.
The no call on Talib on 3rd down on the Pats' overtime drive.



this iffy hold negated a 51 yard gain late in the 3rd quarter on 3rd down. collinsworth and michaels thought it was a bad call.



If this is offensive pass interference...




Then so is this. Right arm clearly extends. Calling a hold on this to me was the only truly truly horrendous call, and this was also the most pivotal. This should have been OPI and a hold to offset or nothing at all.




We can throw in this obvious hands to the face on the go ahead touchdown in there too.




Two of these were questionable/poor, two of these were unarguably terrible calls, and they were all on pivotal plays in the last 20 minutes of the game. If even one of these calls went the other way, the Patriots would have won that game. This was the worst officiating in a sports game since the 2002 Kings-Lakers.


Professional sportswriters appear to be split into two camps on this
1. The ones who are calling this an actual fix.
2. The ones calling this horrendous officiating that indisputably cost the Patriots the game.

We can argue about whether this is an NFL conspiracy, but there is no argument that the deciding factor in this game was the Broncos getting 4 iffy/terrible calls in their favor in the last 20 minutes.

[Bandingo]

It will just be so much sweeter when the pats beat them in the playoffs. LMAO if you think the donkeys stand a chance against the Pats with Edelman, gronk, Amendola, Collins and Hightower back. The docks barely squeaked out a win with all those bs calls. Enjoy your victory Bronco fans because you know winter is coming.

[HankScorp1o]

I'll restate the obvious since you are missing the point of why your team lost:


The refs didn't cause your O-line to fall apart and start holding because they were gassed.
The refs didn't cause your defensive line to be incredibly awful against the run.
The refs didn't cause your secondary to get burned and exposed by over 7 different receivers.
The refs didn't make Brady overthrow his receivers.
The refs didn't make our defense completely shut down the Pats running game, intermediate, and short routes.

LMFAO at this desperate ******* STILL trying to convince others that the refs didn't completely alter the game in the 4th and hand the Broncos the win. Pathetic.

But hey, a gift-wrapped win is still better than the loss the Broncos were about to be served. You can at least be grateful for that, I guess.

[4backcracks]

I'll restate the obvious since you are missing the point of why your team lost:


The refs didn't cause your O-line to fall apart and start holding because they were gassed.
The refs didn't cause your defensive line to be incredibly awful against the run.
The refs didn't cause your secondary to get burned and exposed by over 7 different receivers.
The refs didn't make Brady overthrow his receivers.
The refs didn't make our defense completely shut down the Pats running game, intermediate, and short routes.

The retardation ITT is growing too strong, so I'll leave on this note. I'm breaking it up into nice little chunks for you, so you don't choke on it.


1. A team's miscues during a game have no relevance to how good or bad the officiating was. This is so apparent that I shouldn't even have to say it, but it seems like this is a confusing idea for you.

2. A perfect game is one where both teams are judged equally harshly by the rules, so that there is no dispute that the deciding factor in the game was how well the teams played.

3. Referees make mistakes. Close games happen. Basic probability tells us every now and then a missed call or a bad call will be the deciding factor in a close game. We all btch about it when it makes our team lose, but this is just an unavoidable part of sport.

4. The referees made about 6 really iffy calls in the last 20 minutes of the game. Under perfect circumstances, these situations would have been split about 3-3, given that these were all very very close calls.

5. The split of these 6 iffy calls was 5-1 in favor of the Broncos. The two least significant (offensive holding on the broncos and the holding no call on aqib talib in OT) were tied at 1-1. The four most pivotal calls of the game all went against the Patriots.

6. Believing the officiating was not the deciding factor in this game is actually delusional. Plenty of impartial posters on misc called this game a joke, as have dozens of pro sports writers from across the country including in Denver.

"9 Reasons the Broncos Won"

"6.Penalties. If everybody didn't hate the Patriots, people might say they got jobbed -- by three penalties in particular."
http://www.9news.com/story/sports/nf...iots/76583488/



Your homer sportswriters can tell it like it is, it must not be that confusing.





But in real tea, none of this matters. The Patriots were up 21-7 when they lost Donta Hightower and Gronkowski. The team the Broncos beat in the 4th quarter and OT was a team without Hightower, Jamie Collins, Edelman, Gronk, or Amendola. 5 of the 7 best players on this team were out. This obviously isn't an excuse for why we lost, but it is the reason why we will win the rematch (if denver gets that far).

[MurkinSeason]

Broncos were pretty banged up too lmao. Just sayin..

[XeReaZ]

Rob is such a delusional homer youre wasting your time trying to convince him otherwise. Funny he didn't comment on any of those gifs you posted because they were all missed calls in favor of broncos.

Game was clearly horribly officiated and any neutral fan watching the game last night saw this.

If gronk is able to come back healthy then this loss is a good thing for the pats and will eliminate the undefeated talks during playoffs.


In for Denver/ pats playoff rematch

[StrapNScrap21]

>Be a Patriots fan.
>Cry about cheating.

LMFAO at this desperate ******* STILL trying to convince others that the refs didn't completely alter the game in the 4th and hand the Broncos the win. Pathetic.

But hey, a gift-wrapped win is still better than the loss the Broncos were about to be served. You can at least be grateful for that, I guess.

that fatherless fakkit doesn't even realize his squad gonna be the 3 seed once the Bengals slap the edomite out of Brock in 2 weeks [img]http://www.*******.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/laff.gif[/img]

[GrecoRoman]

you *******s really believe pats fans or genius who isn't a pats fan care about this regular season hosing? Its about the integrity of the game you idiots.


The rules have been set up to the point that officials can pick and chose when they call penalties to kill or extend drives. Thats the crux of this matter, not the outcome. The fact that shiet that happens on every single play gets called in critical moments and ignored on the other side lets officials influence the outcome of the game.


In case you retards haven't noticed, most nfl games are close. One or two calls down the stretch is the difference in most games.

[Snooging]

you *******s really believe pats fans or genius who isn't a pats fan care about this regular season hosing? Its about the integrity of the game you idiots.


The rules have been set up to the point that officials can pick and chose when they call penalties to kill or extend drives. Thats the crux of this matter, not the outcome. The fact that shiet that happens on every single play gets called in critical moments and ignored on the other side lets officials influence the outcome of the game.


In case you retards haven't noticed, most nfl games are close. One or two calls down the stretch is the difference in most games.

Pats fans talking about integrity of the game. LOL

[GrecoRoman]

Pats fans talking about integrity of the game. LOL

too stupid to realize that officials making bogus calls in critical moments to influence games is far more damaging to the games integrity than air pressure that wasn't removed from footballs.


As much as I chit on NBE and NBE fans, NFL fans are by far the biggest sheep in the sporting world. No fans get fuked more by their sport than football fans.

[MidniteMarauder]

Lol at not respecting the greatness of Big Cokk Brock, aka the kingslayer

[Snooging]

too stupid to realize that officials making bogus calls in critical moments to influence games is far more damaging to the games integrity than air pressure that wasn't removed from footballs.


As much as I chit on NBE and NBE fans, NFL fans are by far the biggest sheep in the sporting world. No fans get fuked more by their sport than football fans.

Pls go you Brady cuck. wasnt removed from footballs??? Wut. You don't care about the integrity of the game, you're just crying cause the "integrity" of the game wasn't on your side tonight. Lmfao. Only affects the integrity of the game when it happens to you. I don't disagree that the refs can call whatever they want depending on their mood, but this happens to everyone. Shut the fuk up

[HankScorp1o]

Pls go you Brady cuck. wasnt removed from footballs??? Wut.

Lol you 're an idiot and didn't follow the case if you still believe anyone actually deflated anything.

You don't care about the integrity of the game, you're just crying cause the "integrity" of the game wasn't on your side tonight. Lmfao. Only affects the integrity of the game when it happens to you. I don't disagree that the refs can call whatever they want depending on their mood, but this happens to everyone. Shut the fuk up

Another Broncos cuck IRATE that his team couldn't earn the win and needed it gifted to them by the commissioner. Shocking.

[mada41]

Bad calls all season against tons of teams...

Do I like it? Nope. But it's not like the Patriots are the only team that has gotten the short end of the stick.

They obviously got to 10-0 with all the calls going against them. I was particularly impressed with their defense of the Hail Mary pass in last week's Monday Nighter. Oh, wait...

[KC2892]

Lol you 're an idiot and didn't follow the case if you still believe anyone actually deflated anything.

Another Broncos cuck IRATE that his team couldn't earn the win and needed it gifted to them by the commissioner. Shocking.

It's like 3 days later and you're still in this thread replying to every single post quoting yours explaining why someone is salty and how you aren't, all the while posting the same gif over and over. You need to get a life lol, it's honestly pathetic.

"Another Broncos cuck IRATE that his team couldn't earn the win"

NE 24 - DEN 30. Get over it.

[sdballer5588]

It's like 3 days later and you're still in this thread replying to every single post quoting yours explaining why someone is salty and how you aren't, all the while posting the same gif over and over. You need to get a life lol, it's honestly pathetic.

"Another Broncos cuck IRATE that his team couldn't earn the win"

NE 24 - DEN 30. Get over it.

I haven't posted ITT yet, but honestly it's very very funny as a Pats fan to just quote almost everyone and respond, because why not? It's super obvious you guys get a bit over excited when your team beats the Pats, and the Pats are so good that half the sports misc is celebrating them losing.

It's very fun to bully you nerds about this when you're bored.

[KC2892]

I haven't posted ITT yet, but honestly it's very very funny as a Pats fan to just quote almost everyone and respond, because why not? It's super obvious you guys get a bit over excited when your team beats the Pats, and the Pats are so good that half the sports misc is celebrating them losing.

It's very fun to bully you nerds about this when you're bored.

It just shows ego when you have absolutely no part in the team. I'm not even a Broncos fan, I'm a Chiefs fan, but you guys replying over and over claiming salt when you are the ones that lost just looks pitiful.

"We lost but hey you needed bad calls to win so HAH." Like what? It's pretty funny to be honest. And extremely sad that someone feels the need to reply over and over defending themselves and the team they cheer for. Just suck it up, you aren't undefeated anymore, get over it. You're still a better team that 95% of the other teams in the NFL. Isn't that enough?

[StrapNScrap21]

It just shows ego when you have absolutely no part in the team. I'm not even a Broncos fan, I'm a Chiefs fan, but you guys replying over and over claiming salt when you are the ones that lost just looks pitiful.

"We lost but hey you needed bad calls to win so HAH." Like what? It's pretty funny to be honest. And extremely sad that someone feels the need to reply over and over defending themselves and the team they cheer for. Just suck it up, you aren't undefeated anymore, get over it. You're still a better team that 95% of the other teams in the NFL. Isn't that enough?

They're right though. You gotta be one fatherless fakkit to act like that game wasn't rigged like the seattle game (and pitt losing helps my team)