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    GAT's Preworkout PMP!!!



    I'd first like to say thank you to GAT for selecting me to log this pre-workout. I was extremely anxious to learn more about the product considering how much I enjoyed Nitraflex. This is a different product based off of the two workouts thus far.

    PMP stands for Peak Muscle Performance...but I think PUMP should be one of the P's lol.

    Lets take this step by step...

    Scoop Size 10/10. I love the concentrated, small scoops. So far I've only used one scoop and don't anticipate going higher than that.

    Mixability 10/10. No problem at all with the mixing. Dissolves perfectly. I can see myself eventually just taking the scoop straight to the dome rather than mixing with water.

    Taste 7/10. I personally didn't like the taste very much. It was a rather bitter. I opted with the berry blast...which tasted abit like berry, but wasn't a fan of the taste. I mixed this with about 7oz of water. For the record, with preworkouts, I don't really care about the taste.

    Energy 9/10. Wow, excellent energy. Really felt awake and energized for my workout. Focus was on point and I was eager to keep training.

    Pump 10/10. Pump was insane. The pump was so real that it hurt to flex.



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    Great start my man!

    Any big goals or any thing for the month or so?

    Also scoop is a tad bit light, go with a slight mound for a full serving
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    Really interested in your opinions on the Differences between PMP and Nitraflex..
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    I don't have exact goals I guess you can say. I've been on a consistent plan for years...my goal is to continue to put on size without putting on too much weight. I started at 155lbs 10 years ago and now upto 185lbs with a small waist. I'd just like to continue to grow without getting fat. Strength continues to increase as well.
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    Last night I had a rather lackluster leg workout. Could be due to training four days straight, but I had nothing in the tank.

    Really struggled to get through the workout.

    Started off with Barbell Squats and worked upto 275lbs for four reps. Legs were rather sore from playing basketball the day before.

    I completed about 6 working sets of squats with 4 warmup sets. I firmly believe squats are more important than say leg press.

    Completed 4 sets of hamstring curls

    4 sets of Stiff leg deadlifts with dumbbells. Completed 10 reps with the 100's. I enjoy the DB's rather than the barbell.

    Completed 4 sets of leg extensions, to get a nice pump in the quads.

    Followed by some basic calve raises.

    I was exhausted after this workout. Defiantly taking today off from the gym and relaxing after work.

    I don't blame the lack of energy on PMP.
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    Subbed for this! Like stad said, scoop is a little light, I'd recommend weighing a few scoops oit to make sure you get a full serving.

    Squats are better than leg press, but they both have their place in my opinion. I always did both, and miss the leg press. Lift in my basement now, and don't have one.

    I prefer SLDL with db's as well, let's you get much lower without standing on something.
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    Nice workout man, even if you claim lackluster you still got in and moved some weight! I played a pretty intense pick-up Bball game a couple months back and was sore head to toe for a few days, like I got hit by a truck!
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    Just had an awesome back/bicep workout! For the first time in a long time, now an hour post workout, my lats feel pumpedddd. Very rarely do I get it in the lats from pulls downs and pull ups.

    Busy day today. I'll update more later, just wanted to share....da pumppppp
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    Originally Posted by JH34PG View Post
    Just had an awesome back/bicep workout! For the first time in a long time, now an hour post workout, my lats feel pumpedddd. Very rarely do I get it in the lats from pulls downs and pull ups.

    Busy day today. I'll update more later, just wanted to share....da pumppppp
    Nice, I agree a good back pump can be tuff to grab! Have a great weekend man!
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    Originally Posted by stad0203 View Post
    Nice, I agree a good back pump can be tuff to grab! Have a great weekend man!
    Thanks buddy.

    So one thing I am noticing is the pump from PMP is significantly different than that of Nitraflex. Perhaps someone can chime in if that was the purpose based on the ingredients...that I am not sure.

    But the pump has been amazing. I normally get a great pump naturally, but this is absurd.

    The first workout was an arm workout (very bro, i know) but my arms were so pumped, there didn't appear to be much definition, just a solid big arm! Which is normally not the case.

    I will upload a picture from the gym very shortly as well to show you what I am currently working with.

    This morning's workout, I filled up the scooper as well as a little bit extra on top.
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    This is a picture after my second workout with PMP!
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    Also, just in case anyone was curious. I am 5'10, 183lbs. My goal is to get to roughly 190 without putting on too much body fat.
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    Lookin swole man. PMP is definitely a different experience from nitraflex. It looks like PMP was designed for balloon pumps and laser focus. Nitraflex is more of a dropkick to the face in energy. Both are great, just depends what I am looking for on each day.

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    Originally Posted by scottyb05 View Post
    Lookin swole man. PMP is definitely a different experience from nitraflex. It looks like PMP was designed for balloon pumps and laser focus. Nitraflex is more of a dropkick to the face in energy. Both are great, just depends what I am looking for on each day.

    You have a good weekend brah?
    Great weekend! Just finished shoulders and getting ready to head to the Knicks game. Ill update on today's workout when I get back!
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    So today I took PMP faster...my major observation was the crazy beta alanine tingles that I had on my way to the gym. Whole body was bright red. Once I started training; that went away.

    The workout was great. I've significantly altered my shoulder workouts for the better. I use to do lots of pressing...barbell, dumbbell and hammer. With some lat raises and shrugs.

    Always wondered why I never had the 3D delt look. I recently began focusing on rear delt movements, raises, upright rows...toss in one press movement and one shrug movement and my delts have really changed. I wish I focused on rear delt movements for the 10 years that I have been training.

    I actually saw some new veins in my shoulders when competing raises. I attribute that to the PMP!
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    Originally Posted by JH34PG View Post


    I'd first like to say thank you to GAT for selecting me to log this pre-workout. I was extremely anxious to learn more about the product considering how much I enjoyed Nitraflex. This is a different product based off of the two workouts thus far.

    PMP stands for Peak Muscle Performance...but I think PUMP should be one of the P's lol.

    Lets take this step by step...

    Scoop Size 10/10. I love the concentrated, small scoops. So far I've only used one scoop and don't anticipate going higher than that.

    Mixability 10/10. No problem at all with the mixing. Dissolves perfectly. I can see myself eventually just taking the scoop straight to the dome rather than mixing with water.

    Taste 7/10. I personally didn't like the taste very much. It was a rather bitter. I opted with the berry blast...which tasted abit like berry, but wasn't a fan of the taste. I mixed this with about 7oz of water. For the record, with preworkouts, I don't really care about the taste.

    Energy 9/10. Wow, excellent energy. Really felt awake and energized for my workout. Focus was on point and I was eager to keep training.

    Pump 10/10. Pump was insane. The pump was so real that it hurt to flex.



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    I gave you greens for an awesome job here
    Thanks dude...just trying to make the best log that I can.
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    Originally Posted by JH34PG View Post
    So today I took PMP faster...my major observation was the crazy beta alanine tingles that I had on my way to the gym. Whole body was bright red. Once I started training; that went away.

    The workout was great. I've significantly altered my shoulder workouts for the better. I use to do lots of pressing...barbell, dumbbell and hammer. With some lat raises and shrugs.

    Always wondered why I never had the 3D delt look. I recently began focusing on rear delt movements, raises, upright rows...toss in one press movement and one shrug movement and my delts have really changed. I wish I focused on rear delt movements for the 10 years that I have been training.

    I actually saw some new veins in my shoulders when competing raises. I attribute that to the PMP!
    Hell yeah man! For shoulders I love a high set, high rep scheme. Ends up being my favorite day in the gym most weeks.
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    Originally Posted by JH34PG View Post
    So today I took PMP faster...my major observation was the crazy beta alanine tingles that I had on my way to the gym. Whole body was bright red. Once I started training; that went away.

    The workout was great. I've significantly altered my shoulder workouts for the better. I use to do lots of pressing...barbell, dumbbell and hammer. With some lat raises and shrugs.

    Always wondered why I never had the 3D delt look. I recently began focusing on rear delt movements, raises, upright rows...toss in one press movement and one shrug movement and my delts have really changed. I wish I focused on rear delt movements for the 10 years that I have been training.

    I actually saw some new veins in my shoulders when competing raises. I attribute that to the PMP!
    Funny how when you find something different in your training you think, " If I only would have started that XX years ago " If I would have learned years ago to squeeze the muscle, I might have arms now...

    So what rear delt movement are you liking the best ?
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    Originally Posted by stad0203 View Post
    Hell yeah man! For shoulders I love a high set, high rep scheme. Ends up being my favorite day in the gym most weeks.
    High reps are the way to go for delts. I find cable work on the rear delts is where it's at!
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    Originally Posted by gregmh View Post
    Funny how when you find something different in your training you think, " If I only would have started that XX years ago " If I would have learned years ago to squeeze the muscle, I might have arms now...

    So what rear delt movement are you liking the best ?
    I have 2 movements that I like. One is standing but leaning forward on the pad reverse pec deck. The second is the lat raise machine, but bending forward at the hips. Using the back of the triceps to lift the pads.

    Somewhat tough to explain but extremely effective.
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    Originally Posted by JH34PG View Post
    I have 2 movements that I like. One is standing but leaning forward on the pad reverse pec deck. The second is the lat raise machine, but bending forward at the hips. Using the back of the triceps to lift the pads.

    Somewhat tough to explain but extremely effective.
    I'd agree with both these, but like ScottyB said too cables are where its at for rear delts, rear flys are awesome.
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    Originally Posted by stad0203 View Post
    I'd agree with both these, but like ScottyB said too cables are where its at for rear delts, rear flys are awesome.
    which particular movement with the cables? Maybe I can begin to incorporate that
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    Originally Posted by JH34PG View Post
    Last night I had a rather lackluster leg workout. Could be due to training four days straight, but I had nothing in the tank.

    Completed 4 sets of leg extensions, to get a nice pump in the quads.

    I was exhausted after this workout. Defiantly taking today off from the gym and relaxing after work.

    I don't blame the lack of energy on PMP.
    What was your food like that day? Or sleep? So many factors can play into fatigue and usually training isn't the culprit. Glad you're taking a rest day though.

    Note on the quad pump - ever try occlusion training? Leg extension madness. Lower weight so it's easier on the joints and amazing pump.

    Nice pic too! You can tell the work you've put into rear delts even though they're not the focus of the pic!

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    I don't count my food. Just based my daily food on my training. Today was an off day, so limited carbs to breakfast. Just had two lean ground beef patties and two cups of broccoli.

    This off day was needed! I'm exhausted as it is...case of the Mondays.

    I haven't tried occlusion training. I think squats are a significantly better exercise than leg extensions. I get a nice pump for four sets Of extensions.

    Lately I've been incorporating more stiff leg DB deadlifts. Really enjoy the stretch and growth from those as well.
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    Originally Posted by JH34PG View Post
    which particular movement with the cables? Maybe I can begin to incorporate that
    Shoulder fly variations with the D handle attachments. Palms down, palms up, palms in, palms out, high pull, low pull.. etc. Can give some epic pumps and tension.
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    Thank you for the suggestions. I am currently loving the current progression from implementing the current two movements. I am always up for experimenting and trying new exercises. I love to watch John Meadows' videos to see the new movements that I can use.
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    Originally Posted by scottyb05 View Post
    High reps are the way to go for delts. I find cable work on the rear delts is where it's at!
    rack runs on dumbbell lateral raises... the worst. 7-8 sets in a row. our dumbbells go down by 2.5lbs in the lighter weights which makes it go on too much longer. try to get between 15 reps and 10 at the end.
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    Originally Posted by Velasquezjay View Post
    rack runs on dumbbell lateral raises... the worst. 7-8 sets in a row. our dumbbells go down by 2.5lbs in the lighter weights which makes it go on too much longer. try to get between 15 reps and 10 at the end.
    Those are brutal too! For some reason cables seem to give me better control with rep tempo and contractions. Delts and tris are the only muscles I like to use cables for
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