Crazy old bernie sanders wants to RAISE payroll tax on EVERYONE in USA

[Dave22reborn]

I suggest that most of you should watch the movie "Sicko".

If you are too impatient to watch that, then watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMqcLUqYqrs

Why should any of us watch a Michael Moore movie?

[forcexdistance]

Why should any of us watch a Michael Moore movie?

Because they are usually thought provoking and informative and make good points.

[Stizzel]

What does every other country in the world do?

They fail

[JoshSP1985]

So paid maternity leave is a bad thing that we cannot afford? It sucked when my wife had to go to work and we had to pay someone to watch our baby. A mom should be able to spend that time with her newborn. Of course on a board like this I don't expect many can relate and will call being human "***goty". What about reducing the military spending by 0.5% and pay for it that way?

How about put yourself in a position financially to be able to afford the costs to raise a child and I can relate I have a 16 month old and a dual income family, we had to prepare for maternity leave just like we had to prepare for daycare costs.

[sawoobley]

Because they are usually thought provoking and informative and make good points.

[NYPat]

I one time worked at a store with five employees, one of them was the manager. One of those employees gets knocked up, who will pick up the slack?

The owner hires someone to replace the employee until the valued employee comes back from maternity leave.

[brighamw]

Because they are usually thought provoking and informative and make good points.

[SDC77]

Ah yes, the Right Wing fanatics of Misc. Every bit as hilariously delusional as the Lefties.

[Venom08]

Bernie is still in the race because the Clinton camp allows it. His purpose is to make her seem more centrist/moderate. It'll be Clinton vs. Trump in November, and Trump will easily defeat that criminal hag.

[Dave22reborn]

Because they are usually thought provoking and informative and make good points.

And full of ****.

[Dave22reborn]

The owner hires someone to replace the employee until the valued employee comes back from maternity leave.

What if the replacement is better?

[NYPat]

What if the replacement is better?

To answer any hypothetical question you continue to ask me - the owner can do whatever he wants other than fire her for having a family. Her job will be waiting for her when she gets back from maternity leave.

[Venom08]

But not the "greatest nation on earth".

Actually, that chart proves exactly WHY we are the greatest nation on earth. lol, just lol. We're not a sht-hole country like every other one because we don't have such libtard policies and still believe in accountability. IMO, for the US to remain the greatest country, we must ELIMINATE ALL federal taxation and leave it so that it's just state and local taxes to pay for roads, schools, whatever. The army should only be employed during times of war and that's when the state's will chirp in more in taxes to fund it. It's a brilliant idea, that and banning government from borrowing money and putting term limits on all politicians and going back to a representative democracy.

[Venom08]

On the topic of maternity, the birth rate in western countries like the US is falling proportionally to the increase in taxes. Eliminate taxes and we'll have more births and a stronger economy. Gosh I wish I could run this country for just 30 days.

[tnel00]

So women shouldn't be able to have families without worrying about losing their jobs?

Yes

If she's a good worker she can reapply and most likely get rehired.

[forcexdistance]

How about put yourself in a position financially to be able to afford the costs to raise a child and I can relate I have a 16 month old and a dual income family, we had to prepare for maternity leave just like we had to prepare for daycare costs.

We were fine financially. Sure my wife could have stayed home. And then my daughter would have had less money for college. And my wife makes more than I do. Modern society now has more women with important and high paying careers.

It was not a huge deal for us personally but for some parents it is a big deal. It's just a nice human thing that a caring society can provide.

Talk to some woman who have had to juggle being mothers with their career.

[tnel00]

The mid seventies marked the beginning of the decline, IMO.

Beginning of the decline was Woodrow Wilson's presidency

[nutsy54]

It's just a nice human thing that a caring society can provide.

Nothing says "nice, human, and caring" like more IRS-enforced taxation...

[BullStampede]

100% troll

Yup. That post sealed it up for me.

[mustermuscle]

On the topic of maternity, the birth rate in western countries like the US is falling proportionally to the increase in taxes. Eliminate taxes and we'll have more births and a stronger economy. Gosh I wish I could run this country for just 30 days.

You would get nothing accomplished unless you mean unquestionable dictator whose laws can not be repealed for an extended period after you rule, and you would have riots on your hands.

[Stizzel]

To answer any hypothetical question you continue to ask me - the owner can do whatever he wants other than fire her for having a family. Her job will be waiting for her when she gets back from maternity leave.

Most employers do this anyway. But if you're talking about making this a law, thats a really stupid idea and you should be ashamed

[NYPat]

Most employers do this anyway. But if you're talking about making this a law, thats a really stupid idea and you should be ashamed

I disagree with you but I respect your right to express your opinion.

[mustermuscle]

The mid seventies marked the beginning of the decline, IMO.



What I meant is implementing fiscal policies that would allow businesses to create more jobs instead of just bringing the top down or raising taxes on everyone like cuck Sanders wants to do. When was the last time a poor man gave you a job?

The lazies and leeches should be left to die out, maybe legalizing some illicit drugs will make the process faster.

There are more than just a few fiscal policies preventing people from starting small business.
It really isn't millions of people being lazy. You can confirm that because if it is said in mainstream media "are college graduates lazy these days" then its probably something that you are told to believe which is not true.

I disagree with you but I respect your right to express your opinion.

How come you don't really argue your positions? I've seen you attempt to make claims in several threads and a few posts later you eject. You keep posting here regularly though so it isn't like you have no time to answer.

[NYPat]

How come you don't really argue your positions? I've seen you attempt to make claims in several threads and a few posts later you eject. You keep posting here regularly though so it isn't like you have no time to answer.

Because I'm posting my opinion and not making a case that needs to be proved. It's wasted energy arguing with someone who disagrees with you or trying to "prove" to someone that your opinion is valid.

[mustermuscle]

Because I'm posting my opinion and not making a case that needs to be proved. It's wasted energy arguing with someone who disagrees with you or trying to "prove" to someone that your opinion is valid.

What do you post for if not to make your case and show that it is rationally valid?

[jackamo2887]

Why the hell should my tax dollars pay for a woman to sit home with her kid?

If it's that important to you that you raise your kid, you quit your job and stay home to raise it while your significant other works. Or you put the kid in daycare. Or you find a better job with a company that pays out maternity leave.

[YesWayNoWeigh]

Shouldn't have ignored me

[forcexdistance]

Why the hell should my tax dollars pay for a woman to sit home with her kid?

Why does essentially every other country on earth do it?

But perhaps it should be that only people with children pay the maternity leave tax.

[Dave22reborn]

We were fine financially. Sure my wife could have stayed home. And then my daughter would have had less money for college. And my wife makes more than I do. Modern society now has more women with important and high paying careers.

It was not a huge deal for us personally but for some parents it is a big deal. It's just a nice human thing that a caring society can provide.

Talk to some woman who have had to juggle being mothers with their career.

Oh woe is me, raising a child and having a job is hard work...

[nutsy54]

Why does essentially every other country on earth do it?

That does absolutely nothing to answer the question you quoted.

But perhaps it should be that only people with children pay the maternity leave tax.

Now we're getting somewhere. Let me know the first politician who proposes that.... (I won't hold my breath).