Crazy old bernie sanders wants to RAISE payroll tax on EVERYONE in USA

[ProteinEnough]

to pay for his socialist programs. the crazy old cuck will ruin the USA if elected. no one will want to work if you have to pay for the lazy leeches that refuse to work and are able.

[Dave22reborn]

Once again, why do people support this man?

[ProteinEnough]

Once again, why do people support this man?

it is 99.9% young dumb hipsters that don't work a real job yet that expect/entitled to free things that OTHER people pay for.

[cheeseymeat]

it is 99.9% young dumb hipsters that don't work a real job yet that expect/entitled to free things that OTHER people pay for.

he won't become president, america can't be this stupid right

[ElHeisenberg]

Honestly man I don't like anyone in this election. Their either too far left or too far right. I'm a conservative. If it came down to Trump & Bernie . I'm voting Bernie. That guy is an idiot. He once said he wanted a 90% income tax. Good luck passing that lol

[Fahnestock]

All libs will drone on and on about "punishing" the "1%", but when it comes down to it all they do is raise taxes on the lower and middle class, and empower multi-national corporations by slaughtering small business with regulations. If you're poor or middle class Rand Paul has the best tax plan for you.

[Postmort3m]

Even his name sounds unpresidential

[Bushmaster]

However, when pressed by Stephanopoulos about whether the proposed Senate tax legislation he backs, which would use a payroll tax to fund a mandate for 12 weeks of paid family and medical leave from all U.S. employers, Sanders confirmed that the bill would require taxing all citizens -– not just the top 1 percent.

"[The payroll tax] would hit everyone –- yeah, it would. But it would mean we would join the rest of the industrialized world and make sure that when a mom has a baby she can in fact stay home with that baby for three months, rather than going back to work at the end of one week," Sanders said.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/berni...ry?id=34546554

[DizzySmalls]

^ holy **** lol, this dude is such a *******. Never thought I'd prefer Hillary to anyone

[mustermuscle]

When votes actually change vast problems such as corporate tax loopholes and the alphabet soup of spying agencies someone make an announcement.
Until then I'll be where the other sane people are living my life how I see fit instead of participating in the sadomasochism of voting.

[forcexdistance]

So paid maternity leave is a bad thing that we cannot afford? It sucked when my wife had to go to work and we had to pay someone to watch our baby. A mom should be able to spend that time with her newborn. Of course on a board like this I don't expect many can relate and will call being human "***goty". What about reducing the military spending by 0.5% and pay for it that way?

[US_Ranger]

I brought this up to a few people and they just stared at me blankly. I tried to explain that payroll taxes absolutely ruin small businesses and they just stared at me blankly. I tried to explain how it destroys people who get 1099's instead of w2's (you pay your own payroll taxes on top of other taxes) and they just stared at me blankly. Payroll taxes are HUGE. This is going to be a disaster.

[US_Ranger]

So paid maternity leave is a bad thing that we cannot afford? It sucked when my wife had to go to work and pay someone to watch our baby. A mom should be able to spend that time with her newborn. Of course on a board like this I don't expect many can relate and will call being human "***goty". What about reducing the military spending by 0.5% and pay for it that way?

Sure.

Cut the defense budget. Guess where it's coming from? Food, barracks, training, ammo, etc. No way it's going to come from Boeing, Lockheed or any of the other multi-billion dollar programs.

Of course no one is talking about that. Instead they want to raise payroll taxes and bankrupt any small business that is just getting by.

[cheeseymeat]

So paid maternity leave is a bad thing that we cannot afford? It sucked when my wife had to go to work and we had to pay someone to watch our baby. A mom should be able to spend that time with her newborn. Of course on a board like this I don't expect many can relate and will call being human "***goty". What about reducing the military spending by 0.5% and pay for it that way?

Socialism at its best ! Why should the population have to pay for your kid ? Would it not be more responsible if you and your wife manage your own finances better or at least secure a higher income job ? Having a baby is a huge responsibility and no one should be responsible except you and her,not the tax payers.

[anonymous]

Oh I'm sorry, is the nearly 10k a year I pay in property taxes to fund your child's education not enough?

how selfish of me and the millions of other Americans who pay for 'free' education. Obviously its ridiculous to expect people to have to pay the majority of costs for a life they chose to bring into the world.

[RoboBob]

So paid maternity leave is a bad thing that we cannot afford? It sucked when my wife had to go to work and we had to pay someone to watch our baby. A mom should be able to spend that time with her newborn. Of course on a board like this I don't expect many can relate and will call being human "***goty". What about reducing the military spending by 0.5% and pay for it that way?

When my wife had our daughter she quit her job to stay home with her. She didn't go back to work for 3 years because we wanted our daughter to be with her mother.

The three years were tough financially, and we ended up creating some debt. We knew we would have some debt when we initially made the decision, so we created a 3 and 5 year plan to manage everything.

If staying home with your child is so important, than fuking sacrifice something rather than cry about the rest of the world not paying for you to stay home.

Most employers give women 1.5-3 months paid maternity leave, and allow an additional 1.5-3 unpaid months. This bullschit about returning to work the next week is just pure political narration.

[mustermuscle]

Oh I'm sorry, is the nearly 10k a year I pay in property taxes to fund your child's education not enough?

how selfish of me and the millions of other Americans who pay for 'free' education. Obviously its ridiculous to expect people to have to pay the majority of costs for a life they chose to bring into the world.

Yes, get mad at those STUPID single mothers. Don't you dare criticize the paper pushers in office that live off your taxes as parasites.

[forcexdistance]

How is this different than Marc Rubio's $2500 dollar child tax credit plan?

Rubio must be a commie too.

[JB05]

Payroll taxes are HUGE. This is going to be a disaster.

Not really. Due to high unemployment, employers in like 24 states were hit with higher FUTA taxes in 2011. They ranged from an extra 0.3% to an extra 1.2%. That didn't ruin the economy (it certainly didn't help though).

What ruins businesses is uncertainty more than anything

What would help would be a nice combined payroll tax. Why have separate rules and exemptions for Social Security and Medicare? Why bother with separate taxability? Does it really make that much difference if this kind of visa is subject to this one, but not that one?

If they wanted to implement a payroll tax hike wisely, they should take social security and medicare (6.2% + 1.45% = 7.65%) and just round it up to 8%. Call it an 8% national payroll tax and publish the same exact rules. It would be modestly higher, but it would greatly simplify the payroll process and simplify taxation

The government can then deal with sorting that sh!t into Medicare or the Social Security trust fund (LOL!)

But that will never happen though, because the right would scream about a tax hike (while continuing to march us into unfunded, open-ended wars every chance they get (see: ISIS, Iran). The left would scream because of some other dumb reason.. probably because it would take business away from tax accounting firms or something.

[mustermuscle]

Not really. Due to high unemployment, employers in like 24 states were hit with higher FUTA taxes in 2011. They ranged from an extra 0.3% to an extra 1.2%. That didn't ruin the economy (it certainly didn't help though).

What ruins businesses is uncertainty more than anything

What would help would be a nice combined payroll tax. Why have separate rules and exemptions for Social Security and Medicare? Why bother with separate taxability? Does it really make that much difference if this kind of visa is subject to this one, but not that one?

If they wanted to implement a payroll tax hike wisely, they should take social security and medicare (6.2% + 1.45% = 7.65%) and just round it up to 8%. Call it an 8% national payroll tax and publish the same exact rules. It would be modestly higher, but it would greatly simplify the payroll process and simplify taxation

The government can then deal with sorting that sh!t into Medicare or the Social Security trust fund (LOL!)

But that will never happen though, because the right would scream about a tax hike (while continuing to march us into unfunded, open-ended wars every chance they get (see: ISIS, Iran). The left would scream because of some other dumb reason.. probably because it would take business away from tax accounting firms or something.

Why must an unrelated issue, wars, be brought up here? If taxes are good say so. Don't paint them as an alternative to "massive open ended wars"

[Bushmaster]

So paid maternity leave is a bad thing that we cannot afford? It sucked when my wife had to go to work and we had to pay someone to watch our baby. A mom should be able to spend that time with her newborn. Of course on a board like this I don't expect many can relate and will call being human "***goty". What about reducing the military spending by 0.5% and pay for it that way?

"We" cannot afford? Sounds like you and your wife were the ones who couldn't afford it bro.

[TruKnight]

he won't become president, america can't be this stupid right

2008 would like you have a word with you.

[otisthebat]

Once again, why do people support this man?

I'll give you an example of who supports him.

a 30 year old burlesque dancer who has a college degree but did nothing with it, and her fiance who is a live performer at the renaissance festival.

It's not the people who are super poor who support him. It's the weird "we made it halfway" people who have an ok job but they don't have any future stability or their careers are temporary.

[AndYUKnowThis]

Fuuuaarrrrk. Bernie Sanders 2016

Gonna feel good when I finally get my 4 year degree and start my career. Gonna make dat dere 4 figure salary after taxes. I won't be able to get that new sports car or nice house, but an18 yr old Honda and and small apartment should last me the rest of my life.

[forcexdistance]

Paul Ryan will be speaker. But he won't let it get in the way of his family time. Heaven forbid we do what the rest of the civilized world does and have paid maternity leave. We may have to give up a jet or a tank. Oh the horror!!

[forcexdistance]

I'll give you an example of who supports him.

a 30 year old burlesque dancer who has a college degree but did nothing with it, and her fiance who is a live performer at the renaissance festival.

It's not the people who are super poor who support him. It's the weird "we made it halfway" people who have an ok job but they don't have any future stability or their careers are temporary.

Actually Bernie supporters tend to be educated, higher class folk.

[anonymous]

I'll give you an example of who supports him.

a 30 year old burlesque dancer who has a college degree but did nothing with it, and her fiance who is a live performer at the renaissance festival.

It's not the people who are super poor who support him. It's the weird "we made it halfway" people who have an ok job but they don't have any future stability or their careers are temporary.

His base seems to be mostly underachieving white people - a mix of Nu-Males and the kind of foolish older women who can be seen posting 'why didn't they just taze him?' comments on FB news feeds when a dindu pulls a gun on the cops.

With some higher-functioning yet hopelessly idealistic white people who've lived in a safe bubble their whole lives and don't understand the brutal reality of life outside their safe-zone (much like the old Senator himself)

[otisthebat]

Actually Bernie supporters tend to be educated, higher class folk.

shut up bitch. troll harder.

[trailwarrior]

So paid maternity leave is a bad thing that we cannot afford? It sucked when my wife had to go to work and we had to pay someone to watch our baby. A mom should be able to spend that time with her newborn.

This is something I strongly disagree with you on. Raising wages is the answer and NOT raising taxes! Having children is not a necessity, it is a personal choice you made and others should not be paying for that. Maybe the employers should be required to give you leave, but they should not be required to pay for it and neither should your fellow employees! It's enough that fellow employees are often asked to make up for this lost labor by giving up even more of their own labor without pay.

I understand that women can no longer stay home and raise children as they once did and it has become much harder to raise children with employers stealing the labor from the worker (which now requires that both parents must work in order to raise a family), but fellow employees with the little they have remaining should not be asked to pay for your personal choices.

Those who cannot or who choose not to have children are constantly being asked to pay more and more of the costs for raising the children for those who made a personal choice and now expect others to pick up the tab. To top it off, those with children are then allowed to pass money they have squirreled-away on to said children, instead of returning that money to those who helped support those children (namely the tax payer). Talk about a greedy a bunch!

[DGTballer]

Oh I'm sorry, is the nearly 10k a year I pay in property taxes to fund your child's education not enough?

how selfish of me and the millions of other Americans who pay for 'free' education. Obviously its ridiculous to expect people to have to pay the majority of costs for a life they chose to bring into the world.

Unfortunately the hard working people are outnumbered by the people who want free stuff. The future is looking bleak in America. I will seriously entertain the idea of moving somewhere in South America like Ecuador or Costa Rica.