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    i think i just might take my screwdriver with me to the meet and adjust my belt after squats
    That's what I did at my last meet. Moved up a hole and gained 15lbs since then and now I'm in between holes again fml.
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    Originally Posted by martin_mathers View Post
    That's what I did at my last meet. Moved up a hole and gained 15lbs since then and now I'm in between holes again fml.
    This is part of why I went to single prong master race.
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    Have my belt tigger for deads so carry a screwdriver with my belt

    Thought that was normal
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    Originally Posted by NorthStrong View Post
    This is part of why I went to single prong master race.
    But pulling it tight before a set is too much work.
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    Originally Posted by martin_mathers View Post
    But pulling it tight before a set is too much work.
    single prong + 13mm is not a good combination. After a big struggle to put in before a set i couldnt even get it off anymore
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    Originally Posted by dang111 View Post
    So I've gained about 6lbs since the last meet (224 -> 230) and now my squat suit feels insanely tight. Never would've thought 6lbs would make such a big difference. We could barely get the straps over my shoulders and it was impossible to breathe with them up.
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    Originally Posted by SPFjudge View Post
    That's good dude!
    Are you trying to squeeze into gear? Srs question.

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    Originally Posted by meaantje View Post
    single prong + 13mm is not a good combination. After a big struggle to put in before a set i couldnt even get it off anymore
    Maybe you could ask an adult for help next time with that big nasty belt.

    Originally Posted by JRMoore82 View Post
    Are you trying to squeeze into gear? Srs question.
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    Originally Posted by 308smk View Post
    Maybe you could ask an adult for help next time with that big nasty belt.



    Wat
    When he says he can't get the straps up and suit is too tight but Judge says it's good.

    I'm just curious on equipment. Are you supposed to get it right enough it's difficult to put on?

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    Originally Posted by meaantje View Post
    single prong + 13mm is not a good combination. After a big struggle to put in before a set i couldnt even get it off anymore
    I have a single prong 13mm.. literally have never had any issues putting it on or off. You might need to work on some hand strength bruh

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    Maybe you could ask an adult for help next time with that big nasty belt.
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    Originally Posted by meaantje View Post
    single prong + 13mm is not a good combination. After a big struggle to put in before a set i couldnt even get it off anymore
    13mm double prong and I don't have any issues lol
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    Tried out my convicts and strangs in the same session today, I think I now know what people mean by stopping power. Convicts are soft and comfy and have some rebound to them but they feel like bouncy ass sleeves compared to strangs, nowhere near the amount of support/far easier to hit depth

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    Originally Posted by JRMoore82 View Post
    I'm just curious on equipment. Are you supposed to get it right enough it's difficult to put on?
    Yes...you never heard of people requiring 3 buddies to put on SBD sleeves? Now imagine if it was a suit but much tighter.

    Originally Posted by Larfleeze View Post
    Tried out my convicts and strangs in the same session today, I think I now know what people mean by stopping power. Convicts are soft and comfy and have some rebound to them but they feel like bouncy ass sleeves compared to strangs, nowhere near the amount of support/far easier to hit depth
    Glad I never spent the money to buy convicts then. Don't really need to buy new wraps that are soft and comfy, can just use any old pair of broken in wraps. But once the strangs break in they're on the stretchy side as well imo. The only wraps I've tried that really have "stopping power" are death rows and overkill. They don't really break in either.
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    Originally Posted by Larfleeze View Post
    Tried out my convicts and strangs in the same session today, I think I now know what people mean by stopping power. Convicts are soft and comfy and have some rebound to them but they feel like bouncy ass sleeves compared to strangs, nowhere near the amount of support/far easier to hit depth
    Those are paki wraps then.

    Real convicts are thin and stiff and abrasive with minimal stretch and feel like a cast. All stopping power and little pop.

    The paki wraps will be thick, soft and stretchy and bouncy and won't lock up on the way down. They're not bad wraps they just aren't the original type despite being sold as such.

    Originally Posted by martin_mathers View Post
    Glad I never spent the money to buy convicts then. Don't really need to buy new wraps that are soft and comfy, can just use any old pair of broken in wraps. But once the strangs break in they're on the stretchy side as well imo. The only wraps I've tried that really have "stopping power" are death rows and overkill. They don't really break in either.
    If you want the real convicts then order the commander wraps from pioneer, and state that they have to be the thin castlike material, because they still have a bunch of the stretchy stuff kicking around. Just be aware they don't give as many revs/pounds as strangs will, and they're moreso meant for multiply lifters.

    If you have the american made strangs and not getting stopping power then youre wrapping wrong brah. They're stretchier when broken in but still lock up like a bastard.
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    Originally Posted by JRMoore82 View Post
    When he says he can't get the straps up and suit is too tight but Judge says it's good.

    I'm just curious on equipment. Are you supposed to get it right enough it's difficult to put on?
    Generally, if you can get into the gear at all, it's not too tight. Whether you are skilled enough to use gear that tight is another matter. I've seen guys take 30 minutes to get into a competition suit.

    And yes, it doesn't work correctly if it's loose. It should be, at a minimum, quite snug. Tighter the better generally. This is for single ply though, multiply gear doesn't have to be so tight.

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    Maybe you could ask an adult for help next time with that big nasty belt.



    Wat
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    dont put words in my mouth either you stupid little sh_t

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    Originally Posted by 308smk View Post
    If you want the real convicts then order the commander wraps from pioneer, and state that they have to be the thin castlike material, because they still have a bunch of the stretchy stuff kicking around. Just be aware they don't give as many revs/pounds as strangs will, and they're moreso meant for multiply lifters.

    If you have the american made strangs and not getting stopping power then youre wrapping wrong brah. They're stretchier when broken in but still lock up like a bastard.
    Compared to the death rows the strangs really are on the stretchy side though. I use these two the most so whenever I switch from death rows to strangs in the same workout I feel way less stopping power. Not to say the death rows are better though, they're a b!tch to get a good number of revs and they're still stiff as ****. When they finally break in (if they ever) I have a feeling they'll be the best wraps ever though.

    I didn't know about the convicts but I think APT got rid of/sold all of his paki strangs already? I know a few guys that bought strangs recently and didn't specify to get the good stuff but still got the Murikkan strangs.
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    Originally Posted by 308smk View Post
    Those are paki wraps then.

    Real convicts are thin and stiff and abrasive with minimal stretch and feel like a cast. All stopping power and little pop.

    The paki wraps will be thick, soft and stretchy and bouncy and won't lock up on the way down. They're not bad wraps they just aren't the original type despite being sold as such.



    If you want the real convicts then order the commander wraps from pioneer, and state that they have to be the thin castlike material, because they still have a bunch of the stretchy stuff kicking around. Just be aware they don't give as many revs/pounds as strangs will, and they're moreso meant for multiply lifters.

    If you have the american made strangs and not getting stopping power then youre wrapping wrong brah. They're stretchier when broken in but still lock up like a bastard.
    Didn't even think of that, thought it was just the strangs that was an issue with. I got these for a tenner to use as a training wrap for lighter stuff so I don't care at all but I can see why you'd be mad as fuk if you ordered strangs and got something like this, difference is night and day. Feels good knowing for sure my strangs are the real deal

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    Off the top of my head, there probably aren't much more than 10 USAPL guys in MN with a 400+ wilks. We also have a few guys in the top 5 for their weight classes in the country, so not exactly weak!

    I want to say it's something like 330 to qualify for the Minnesota Senior State Championships.
    Maybe we aren't the weakest. But nothing to brag about. My 346 wilks got me 4th out of 10 or something. I laughed 1201 @197 or so is nothing to brag about.
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    Originally Posted by martin_mathers View Post
    Compared to the death rows the strangs really are on the stretchy side though. I use these two the most so whenever I switch from death rows to strangs in the same workout I feel way less stopping power. Not to say the death rows are better though, they're a b!tch to get a good number of revs and they're still stiff as ****. When they finally break in (if they ever) I have a feeling they'll be the best wraps ever though.
    Death row is a double super heavy, which is equivalent to the old APT 2xh wraps, which are about 30% stronger/stiffer than a strangulator. So yes they are a stronger wrap, provided you can get enough revolutions out of them.

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    Originally Posted by 308smk View Post
    Death row is a double super heavy, which is equivalent to the old APT 2xh wraps, which are about 30% stronger/stiffer than a strangulator. So yes they are a stronger wrap, provided you can get enough revolutions out of them.
    Discontinued I take it? APT are a fuking weird company. You see their new ones? Called the huggers.




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    Originally Posted by Larfleeze View Post
    Discontinued I take it? APT are a fuking weird company. You see their new ones? Called the huggers.




    The convict..the black mamba..the strangulator..the hugger.
    APT just slaps his logo on different wraps and gives them creepy names. Powerbelly is becoming the 2011 version of APT though. Everything is out of stock forever.
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    Originally Posted by Larfleeze View Post
    Discontinued I take it? APT are a fuking weird company. You see their new ones? Called the huggers.
    The convict..the black mamba..the strangulator..the hugger.
    APT is just one dude, Alan. He just sources the raw material, gets it manufactured and finished elsewhere, and then retails the finished product. He had to discontinue certain wrap lines because they are extremely expensive for the material, have long lead times, and have large minimum order quantities(2-3miles of wrap). So now he only gets his most popular wraps(strang/convict) made from the US webbing supplier and everything else comes from Pakistan. Those new wraps are not USA made, I asked. When he ran low on his US made stuff he got cheap paki stuff to fill the gap in between orders. A few years ago he just stopped shipping all together and was almost out of business because he couldn't get raw material.

    That's why there's varying batches of wrap material, despite being called the same name and looking cosmetically the same. Nearly all fitness/gear companies get their raw material from overseas, because they are significantly cheaper and don't require huge orders. Of course, quality suffers.

    Originally Posted by martin_mathers View Post
    APT just slaps his logo on different wraps and gives them creepy names. Powerbelly is becoming the 2011 version of APT though. Everything is out of stock forever.
    That's a big reason why my death row wraps are tucked away. I know how good they are and PBG is super sketchy right now so I want to save them for when I really need them.
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    How is it that huge companIes like titan and inzer can't make wraps that compare with ones that chitty little one man outfits do? Makes no fuking sense. Hopefully everyone at worlds this year wears SBDs and kicks their arses into gear

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    Originally Posted by JRMoore82 View Post
    Are you trying to squeeze into gear? Srs question.
    Yeah dude... Its powerlifting. Its supposed to be uncomfortable, whether its squat suit, bench shirt, wraps, sbd sleeves, tight as **** belt, etc.
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    Originally Posted by Larfleeze View Post
    How is it that huge companIes like titan and inzer can't make wraps that compare with ones that chitty little one man outfits do? Makes no fuking sense. Hopefully everyone at worlds this year wears SBDs and kicks their arses into gear
    Because a lot of people prefer their wraps. You can't use a super stiff wrap with 2m, you don't get enough revs. I used inzer wraps. CYC uses inzer wraps. You think CYC and dietmar haven't tried a whole bunch of wraps to see whats best?
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    This is how at it was at the Michigan APF State meet last year.

    Had 140+ registered lifters, with well over 50% of guys 220+ totaling well under a lot of the 181-198 guys.



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    Everyone lifted on the same day.

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    Because a lot of people prefer their wraps. You can't use a super stiff wrap with 2m, you don't get enough revs. I used inzer wraps. CYC uses inzer wraps. You think CYC and dietmar haven't tried a whole bunch of wraps to see whats best?
    Didn't loads of ipf guys use apt when they were approved? Sure a lot would move to them if they started paying the ipf again. There's clearly a market for stiff/thick wraps in 2m form, also they make wraps longer than 2m for non ipf people that clearly sell pretty well

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    Originally Posted by Larfleeze View Post
    Didn't loads of ipf guys use apt when they were approved? Sure a lot would move to them if they started paying the ipf again. There's clearly a market for stiff/thick wraps in 2m form, also they make wraps longer than 2m for non ipf people that clearly sell pretty well
    Yeah there were a ton of guys using APT wraps, and i know alot were pissed off when they became unapproved.

    The wrap you wear in a suit doesn't matter as much as raw though, as the majority of the poundage is coming from the suit, and the squats tend to be less quad dominant.

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    anyone ever injury their lower ribs on both sides from using a lifting belt, i have been having pain on both sides of my ribs right about where my lifting belt touches them when i squat...was thinking i had the belt on too tight and some how injured myself....at least thats what i am hoping and that it is nothing worse...been having needle like pains on and off for the past 2 weeks...went to the doc and got blood work done...prob get xrays later.
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