Rodgers or Brady

[TAWS6]

Brady is a system QB. His receivers have led the NFL in YAC more times than any other QB since 08, he's had the best pass blocking O-line the last 15 years. NFL network did a segment of QB's who get the most time in the pocket Brady was 1 and there wasn't even a close second LMAO

Brady gets rid of the ball in 1.85 seconds on average this season. He is also making Deon Lewis look like an all star.

[sdballer5588]

Brady is a system QB. His receivers have led the NFL in YAC more times than any other QB since 08, he's had the best pass blocking O-line the last 15 years. NFL network did a segment of QB's who get the most time in the pocket Brady was 1 and there wasn't even a close second LMAO

You mean Wes Welker led the NFL

"his receivers" ---> only referring to one guy lol

[Hardcore_D00d]

this is why i keep posting about bradshaw. they immediately follow people posting about rings

but you're right in this post, brady will be considered GOAT by many people because of rings. but many people are stupid and simple minded

i cant comment on bradshaw because i've never seen him play. way before my time. but im sure he was a beast in his era, this is an argument for older people. out of my spectrum. but for who i've personally seen? the best are brady and rodgers

[sdballer5588]

When I removed half of Brady's career its because we were arguing a completely different thing. In one instance we were comparing who performs better head to head... I didn't include the years Rodgers wasn't a starter... Doing so would be pro Brady because Brady would have better numbers via playing longer, not actually outperforming Rodgers.

YOU brought up the argument of Rodgers scoring in the low 20's in his last 4 playoff losses as a reason to place blame on him... I simply was wondering why you assume low 20's isn't good enough when it won Brady 3 SBs?.... Now you're bringing up your classic hypotheticals of era's and assuming Brady would have been scoring more. any argument based on assumption is poverty and it's you who's hopping arguments and when I refute them using a different argument you claim its me who's changing.

20 points in 2015 is not the same as 20 points in 2001. A trained monkey would know that.

[Swept]

Brady gets rid of the ball in 1.85 seconds on average this season. He is also making Deon Lewis look like an all star.

Brady does get rid of the ball fast, but other times.....


Bill have probably the best pass rush in the NFL patriots O-line completely dominated them, but of course it was all Brady

You mean Wes Welker led the NFL

"his receivers" ---> only referring to one guy lol

Nope look at team YAC , patriots receivers are usually top 3 ever season since 08

[sdballer5588]

Brady does get rid of the ball fast, but other times.....


Bill have probably the best pass rush in the NFL patriots O-line completely dominated them, but of course it was all Brady




Nope look at team YAC , patriots receivers are usually top 3 ever season since 08

No, it's Welker.

2014 Gronk 11th
2013 Edelman 17th
2012 Welker 1st
2011 Welker 1st (Gronk 4th, not top 3)
2010 Welker 15th
2009 Welker 2nd
2008 Welker 1st


Like I said. Welker is literally the only NE receiver to be top 3 in YAC. So you actually just meant ONE guy.

[Swept]

No, it's Welker.

2014 Gronk 11th
2013 Edelman 17th
2012 Welker 1st
2011 Welker 1st (Gronk 4th, not top 3)
2010 Welker 15th
2009 Welker 2nd
2008 Welker 1st


Like I said. Welker is literally the only NE receiver to be top 3 in YAC. So you actually just meant ONE guy.

Nope I'm talking about the team in general, pats are currently 6th

http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/st...atistics/2015/

[camaleom]

Bill have probably the best pass rush in the NFL patriots O-line completely dominated them, but of course it was all Brady

OP do u football?

pass rush is meaningless if the QB can rid of the ball THAT fast while being accurate (receivers have to be on the same page 100% of the time)

[rampagefc77]

Quarterbacking is about more than that and you *******s don't realize that. While the McNabbs and Rodgers of the world are dry heaving in the huddle in the post season, Brady is leading blowouts or comebacks. The 4 rings thing isn't some accident, he's the best post season QB of all time. The idea of "intangibles" is completely lost on the miscer who can't realize why Brady is the GOAT.


Last year was the perfect example of this. Rodgers wins head to head and the MVP, while Brady beats the team that Rodgers team choked to and wins Superbowl MVP for the 3rd time.

As any logical fan would recognize, Rodgers was severely hindered in the playoffs with a torn calf. He reinvented his game and led the packers to within seconds of a SB appearance, which is impressive in itself. Rodgers played the seahawks in seattle before the legion of boom became the legion of injuries.

Rodgers playoff stats are better than Brady's in all ways aside from SB victories. Packers have played historically better defenses and teams in the playoffs (giants, niners, seahawks) compared to anything the AFC offered.

Brady won 3 of his first 4, but has won 1 in the last 10 after becoming "the guy". How did he go from being so great to sucking so bad in the post-season by your logic? Must be dry heaving in those huddles this last decade...

[TAWS6]

Pretty sure Brady's playoff record is better than 6-5

[Sjas]

Are you a potato? Losing Jordy and losing Gronk aren't in the same ballpark. You lose Jordy, you've still got Cobb, Jones, and plenty of other physically gifted receivers. Take out Gronk, and your best receiver can now only catch 5 yard patterns. LOL

Are YOU a potato? Strong putting world in my mouth. I never said the effect of losing those players were the same. I merely said that it has an effect if you lose your best weapons. Losing Nelson makes it more difficult for Rodgers. Losing Gronk would make it more difficult for Brady. That's not hard to understand. Meanwhile you try to decipher or correct something that isn't required be be either deciphered or corrected. Get a clue.

[Sjas]

Could you imagine if Brady had been to 4 superbowls without Gronk?

Wait a minute he has been.

Cool. Did he put up historic numbers in those season? Did he put up numbers that's close to the what he's putting up now or what he is on pace for?
For the most part no. 2001, 2003, 2004 and 2011 were good seasons, not historic. Though in 2007 he did with 50 TDs and 8 INTs. But then again, he had a motivated Randy Moss in 2007. Top class target. This year he is on pace for those numbers, but he is playing with Gronk who will likely (i.e. no serious injuries) go down as the best TE in NFL history when it's all said and done. Again top class target. Clear pattern.
Rodgers on the other hand didn't have anyone like Moss or Gronk in his historic season in 2011 (better than Brady's 2007, but that's another discussion) and so far this year he had 10 TDs and 0 INTs to Brady's 9 TDs and 0 INTs, also without a target like Gronk or Moss. I'm more impressed with Rodgers.

All the above is irrelevant though to my first comment though, seeing I wasn't saying Rodgers is greater than Brady. That wasn't the focus. I was saying Rodgers is the better player right now, which I think he is when you take into account that Brady has a target like Gronk while Rodgers does not, yet their stats are fairly similar with 1112 yards, 72,2 comp. %, 9 TDs, 0 INTs, 119.6 rtg. for Brady and 771 yards, 73,6 comp. %, 10 TDs, 0 INTs, 135.4 rtg.

[Reli25]

In the words of Vince Lombardi "Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing"

Rodgers is a more accurate QB than Brady. Brady has had the best Oline in football and had an amazing defense during his first 3 SBs. Both of them are amazing QBs and are able to stay calm under pressue (look at a QB like Cutler...hit him a few times and he gets all anxious/rattled and starts throwing INTs)

At this point over both careers so far I would say Brady is the better QB. At this point in time only, this season, I would say Rodgers is better.

Rodgers still has quite a few years left and could definitely become the best QB to ever play the game.


You guys can nit pick certain stats all you want but when two QBs are both so good, then you have to go to the one with the most wins. Now if Rodgers gets within 1 SB of Brady but blows him out stats wise, he will be the better QB, because just having one more doesnt make you better. Eli is not better than Rodgers or Peyton.




Life long die hard Packer fan by the way, but I can respect a great team and QB when I see one.

[Swept]

OP do u football?

pass rush is meaningless if the QB can rid of the ball THAT fast while being accurate (receivers have to be on the same page 100% of the time)

He's not getting rid of every single pass that fast.

[Negativ]

Would take Brady over Rodgers.

Edit: this was totally a thread last year, see how that turned out?

[solidus2k3]

brady crew

[Tommy12Orr4]

The packers have been playing stellar niners, seahawks, and giants teams in the playoffs. They don't get AFC cupcakes each year to stat pad in the playoffs

I'm pretty sure every team that packers have lost to in the playoffs have gone on to the NFC championship or SB. Can that be said about the teams the patriots have lost to?

Since Rodgers only Super Bowl win.

2011: Packers get smoked by the Giants in their first playoff game. The Patriots barely lose to that same team in the Super Bowl.

Advantage: GOAT


2012: Rodgers gets bodybagged by the 49ers while Brady loses to the....wait for it.......wait for it......Super Bowl champions that season who......wait for it..........wait for it.........beat the same team that body bagged Rodgers.

Advantage: GOAT


2013: Another early playoff exit for Rodgers. Meanwhile, Brady lost to the AFC Champion with an injured and depleted squad.

Advantage: GOAT


2014: Rodgers loses to the Seahawks with a minor injury and settles for FG's all game long while his defense forced four INT's. Meanwhile, Brady slayed that same Seahawks team two weeks later and became Tommy Four Rings.

Advantage: GOAT


I also love how people think individual stata aren't team accomplishments as well. Lacy, Cobb, Neslon, etc are sure trash!

Take a seat rookies.

[Ejjw18]

Brady without a doubt. Lol at Rodgers in the playoffs

[Reli25]

Brady without a doubt. Lol at Rodgers in the playoffs

LOL, Cutler

[Antonio519]

Rodgers easy

He can do it himself, Tim Bradly needs his team to bail him out

[brobeansprah]

I'm pretty sure there are only a handful of people using stats here. The rest are spouting opinions and calling names. Please go

Go look at the numbers the past 5 years. Literally everyone who covers football agrees that Rodgers is the best. Only debate I've seen is on this board. It's hilarious.

[visc3ral]

Regardless of the arguing in this thread, the question was who would you take, which is an opinion. Yes, understood that Rodgers is amazing and right now, he's likely playing at a better level, but if it comes down to who I would want to lead my team, it would be Brady. And it will be Brady until he actually starts showing more significant decline in play.

[LeonardShelby]

He's not getting rid of every single pass that fast.

He's averaging less than 2 seconds for release this season so yes he is getting almost every pass off that fast.

[camaleom]

He's not getting rid of every single pass that fast.

better watch a game before u comment on something that u haven't seen.

[camaleom]

He's averaging less than 2 seconds for release this season so yes he is getting almost every pass off that fast.

this

[GrecoRoman]

You really just put Mcnabb and Rodgers in the same class dude?

holy **** man this isn't baseball, football is very role based and QB's are supposed to be leaeders on the field. Nobody is a better leader than Brady and this isn't debatable. Rodgers is 3x as talented as a QB as McNabb ever was but as leaders? Rodgers has done nothing in this league for anybody to say "thats the guy I want when the chips are down". Rodgers is the closest thing to Peyton Manning and the love he got in his prime.

Brady needed the worst call ever to get it done because instead of building a comfortable lead he was coming back from his 10 point performance 2 int performance in the first 3 quarters. Was he waiting for more Seahawks to get hurt before deciding to do something? Congrats. Brady's intangibles include mind fukkin other coaches to pass the ball lol. also act like Brady didnt choke both of his MVP years as well? where was his intangibles then ?

lol typical fantasy football fan second guessing Bevel and Pete even though they are the only team in recent memory to go to back to back superbowls, anybody that has a problem with that call is using women logic (srs). But they needed an absolute ghost showing from Rodgers down the stretch to even get to the superbowl so thanks for that lmfaoo. Your numbers are all kinds of off so Im not even going to touch them. Lol crying about injuries to a Pats fan, just lol

4>1, cheese packing *******s hate him.

Go look at the numbers the past 5 years. Literally everyone who covers football agrees that Rodgers is the best. Only debate I've seen is on this board. It's hilarious.

lets look at there numbers against common opponents last year:

NFC North

Brady- 3 games: 75% 8TDs 1NT 284ypg

Rodgers- 6 games: 69% 18TDS 0INTS 228.3ypg

AFC east:

Brady- 6 games 59.26% 11TDS 2ints 236.7ypg

Rodgers- 3 games 52.3% 6tds 2 ints 306.3ypg

SEATTLE:

Brady- 1 game 74% 4TDS 2INTS 328 YPG

Rodgers- 2 games 60.2% 2TDS 3INTS 183.5 YPG


Brady is a better QB than Aaron Rodgers. Rodgers might run better, throw a prettier deep ball and play more cupcake defenses allowing him to pad those stats but Brady brings it against better defenses and certainly brought it when it mattered while Rodgers was MIA. Most talented=/=best

[lsiberian]

I'd take an angry Brady over any other QB in the league for a season. If either were under center in Dallas it would not be fair.

[WhoWasFeel]

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Brady does get rid of the ball fast, but other times.....


Bill have probably the best pass rush in the NFL patriots O-line completely dominated them, but of course it was all Brady




Nope look at team YAC , patriots receivers are usually top 3 ever season since 08

are you ****ing retarded? the reason the Bills could barely get to him is because he got the ball out in less than 2 seconds

[holtmcg]

I'd take Brady over Rodgers in the regular season
I'd take Eli over Brady in the post season

[CCAurora]

I make the mistake every year of assuming Brady will decline due to age... Brady>>>, I'll take the guy who wins in January