I don't think brand loyalty means that much in supps, but they fight dirty over there. I wouldn't try it without a lot of play money that you're willing to lose, and a unique trending ingredient mix to boot.
I think most people would do giveaways in your situation but personally I would not. I swear by PPC. If your bids aren't on full blast, raise them. Add keywords. Drop your price. I like to do a PPC blast fire sale where I go negative, even heavy PPC + a break even price. At breakeven anything less than 100% ROI is cheaper than a giveaway and you get keyword driven sales to boot. 5 weeks is a long time, that's gonna set you back a couple weeks.
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04-14-2016, 12:12 AM #1621I lift therefore I am.
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04-15-2016, 01:17 PM #1622
Thanks for the info, i will defiantly that. Do you use review sites to get more reviews? my product is in a competitive market but almost everyone has one or will need one. One of my competitors somehow got 1200 reviews in less than a month with giveaways.. the top 3 products in the category have over 1000 reviews now and are in the top 200 in sports and outdoors. im pretty sure 30 reviews isnt enough and building over 100 will take a few months at this rate. That's the main reason i'm debating a giveaway.
What does your conversion rate look like for sessions, and how many sessions do your successful products typically get a day? if you don't mind sharing
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04-20-2016, 04:37 PM #1623
Anyone have experience with freight forwarders? I'm in the process sorting out the details of importing the product from China. My product is 3 cbm and 800 kg according to the supplier. I'm getting the estimate from the supplier with their freight forwarder who will take care of everything until it reaches the port in USA for $20 which seems suspiciously cheap. I assume that means I will have to hire a freight forwarding service to take care of things on this side once it lands on the dock with papers and etc. Can anyone provide their experience with freight forwarders?
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04-20-2016, 08:42 PM #1624
Hi all, thought i'd check in to this thread.
Been selling PL since December. Based in Australia.
First product has been mildly successful and probably has the potential to get to 10/day. Right now it's at about 3-4/day.
I had an instagram page going for the brand which got to about 10k to see if I could get some extra sales.
I'm moving into a different niche as I feel there are more potential products for me to sell with higher sales and less competition.
Waiting on samples for product 1 of the new brand. In the process of getting a logo done and packaging designed. If anyone has a good graphic artist they use for this stuff let me know.
My main problem is capital. I already have product 2 and 3 in mind and would love to have all launching within the next few months. Will probably take a loan out if product 1 goes well.
I also plan on getting 500 for my first order but thinking 1000 may be needed.
In the past ive used amztracker for reviews and increasing rankings with Super URLs but they have removed the ability to add super URL's so I'm looking into a new launch strategy. It will probably still involve amztracker for reviews but will have to rely on cranking ppc for a boost in rankings.
Im sitting here counting down the days till I can quit my office job. I'm 28 years old and yet to travel outside of my own country.
Happy to document my journey and hopefully look back on this one day with a much healthier bank balance and outlook on life.
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04-21-2016, 07:52 PM #1627
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Depends on the BSR first and foremost...
In my experience, sheets are one of those slow-moving, high ROI items. I picked up some nice sheets heavily discounted for about $20 and sold them for nearly $120, but they took about 2-3 months to sell. They're nice to have in your inventory if you don't mind waiting, but if you have a fast moving business model, avoid.
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04-21-2016, 11:47 PM #1628
Something is getting lost in translation I think, because there's no way 800kg will ship for $20. Here's a good walkthrough, I think it was about sea freight, but it would be a similar process for air:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fulfillment...lmostcomplete/
I would recommend mine (Flexport), but they only take people who ship a lot of volume. I've heard people getting in with them by just saying they ship more than they doI lift therefore I am.
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04-22-2016, 08:38 AM #1629
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04-27-2016, 10:52 AM #1632
This is what I do:
1. Maybe get 1-3 reviews if necessary, could be as lame as calling a friend and have them put 5 stars on it and say "Neat!".
2. Usually set price low, maybe even break even, but take into consideration how price might affect perceived value.
3. If you are solid on what keywords you want, skip to #5. Turn on auto PPC, $5/click, daily bid high enough not to run out. Basically pay whatever it costs for as much traffic as I can get.
4. Let this run until I feel like I've gotten usable amount of data. Look through the search term report and look at what people are searching to find my stuff, what's getting a lot of clicks, what's converting, etc.
5. Set up manual broad match campaign using data from the search term report. Same bids as before, pay whatever it takes. Conversion should be higher now that you're sending better traffic.
6. With higher conversion, you'll start ranking. Keep updating campaign with data from the search term report. Play around with phrase and exact match keywords.
7. As you get closer to good spots in ranking start pricing testing towards your desired price. Keep focusing campaign.
8. Profit.
I think most people do heavy giveaways. Maybe giveaways are faster I don't know, I don't fuk with them. Even if you sell at break even price, as long as you beat 100% ACoS it's cheaper than a giveaway. Honestly I'm scared to give my chit away for free. What happens if I give away a bunch of units and nothing happens? I don't even get data back just a hole in my wallet. As you can see this method has been working for me:
I lift therefore I am.
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04-27-2016, 11:44 AM #1633
Amazon are pissing me off. I'm in jewelry now and selling 10 products, 26 variations in total, and when somebody orders one of the variation listings, Amazon sometimes sends the wrong fukkin variation and the customers come to ME screaming. Is this normal?
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04-27-2016, 11:49 AM #1634
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04-27-2016, 12:59 PM #1636
Thanks for the response man, very helpfull! i haven't done a giveaway but i see they are very popular. i mostly haven't done one because i cringe when i read the reviews on other products that have done giveaways, especially at some of the pictures they post... all look like poverty people wanting free stuff... I have plenty of people around me that actually want to buy my products, so i just have to hassle them for reviews haha, think i got 10 out of them so far. As for ppc its getting expensive as Fukk... like $2 a click for my nich. Im doing pretty good now, 20+ sales the last 4 days but today has been slow so far, Only 3 sales and yesterday i had 14 by now .
Im going to try and optimize my listing with more keywords and better selling points going forward, my biggest problem is im not getting enough impressions every day. Around 60-90... but i have a 20% unit session percentage which im guessing is pretty high?
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04-27-2016, 05:45 PM #1637
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04-28-2016, 12:24 AM #1638
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04-28-2016, 08:26 AM #1640
In Chris Green's arbritrage course, there was a guess speaker who shared his products (Mule cups and glass straws). That guy must be kicking himself cause those were probably products with little to no competition and now they are completely saturated.
In other words, you are going to have to do some leg work boyo cause no one who is having success is going to give you product ideas.* Lift, eat, sleep, wake up and do it all again *
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04-28-2016, 04:44 PM #1644
experienced brahs:
How do you see the future of amazon fba or PL products in general?
Is the market already saturated?
I know some guys are legit ballin on this but do you think it's a viable long term business?''The fight is won or lost far away from the witnesses, behind the lines, in the gym, and out there on the road; long before I dance under those lights.'' - Muhammad Ali
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04-28-2016, 08:33 PM #1645
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04-29-2016, 11:54 AM #1646
Yeah, went into the leads that i found sometime after that, ended up as slow movers, but I'll keep them as bottom line products.
I have this problem because I keep accepting amz loans without knowing where to blow it lmao.
I wanted to go to canton/hk so bad but I couldn't leave. I turn inventory every 20-30 days and sales skyrocketed since december, so its just catching up and expanding as fast and as much as possible for now. I just wasn't ready to risk running out.
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04-29-2016, 02:43 PM #1647
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04-29-2016, 09:36 PM #1649
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Any brahs got any tips for preventing over analyzation when researching for your first product? Been at this for about 4 days and nothing seems 'right' yet; seems like there's either too much comp or not enough demand in everything I've checked. Doesn't seem realistic considering how many products I've gone through...pretty sure I'm being too picky.
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04-30-2016, 08:08 AM #1650
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