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    Originally Posted by Beast92 View Post
    I cant blame immigrants and refugees for seeking better living conditions and leaving their homelands to move to European countries. It is either that or getting fuking terminated by ISIS, the syrian government, or some other fuked up insurgency group in the Middle East or Africa.

    Stop being racists and discriminating against them based on their religion, wealth or country of origin.

    Explain why you guys are hating on them and dont want them around? Fuk off. This are people just looking to have an opportunity at life and integrate to a safe European society
    So most of the ME and Africa should empty and be off to sweet golden lands of europe. And when europe collapses and civil war breaks out.........North America?

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    Originally Posted by skapis View Post
    What's in it for europeans?
    This

    And we already have like 40 million+ muslims in Europe with a higher birth rate than natives that are causing a lot of problems. If you want more refugees you also want more crime and more tension, and lower social trust. It has been proved that multiculturalism lowers social trust between people, between natives and immigrants, and between natives themselves. How could that be good for a country? Lack of social trust between the people will lead to all sorts of serious problems, even war.
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    Originally Posted by PimpMasterC View Post
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    And we already have like 40 million+ muslims in Europe with a higher birth rate than natives that are causing a lot of problems. If you want more refugees you also want more crime and more tension, and lower social trust. It has been proved that multiculturalism lowers social trust between people, between natives and immigrants, and between natives themselves. How could that be good for a country? Lack of social trust between the people will lead to all sorts of serious problems, even war.
    These immigrant Muslims do not want to assimilate to western values. Rather they want Europe and the west to assimilate to them.

    This is ridiculous and dangerous.

    I would close all borders and send these people packin' where they came from.

    If you want to immigrate, do it legally learning the laws in your new found country and leaving your old failed ways behind.
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    Many of these "refugees" refused aid in several democratic EU nations and are simply shopping for the best, most lucrative deal, in other words they are illegal immigrants not refugees. Refugees flee their country out of desperation and seek aid in the nearest place they can find (the gulf states, which should be where our efforts are focused), not travel across Europe for the most cushdy location they can find. You should see some of the people on my newsfeed, Labour voting *******rons
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    Here is the real solution to the refugee problem: stop meddling in the affairs of other countries. Embrace the prosperity that comes with a peaceful foreign policy, not the poverty that goes with running an empire.
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    Originally Posted by Beast92 View Post

    Stop being racists and discriminating against them based on their religion, wealth or country of origin.
    Urine idiot!

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    Originally Posted by Ali619 View Post
    OP,

    They don't really care whether they are immigrants but they would usually put the religion card as an excuse in order to justify it, hence all the complaint they use.

    When it comes to a purely white Christian refugees, they generally wouldn't have a problem. Now, do you see any Americans blaming Mexicans for coming? No. Because religion plays little to no role in the American continent.

    Whereas, Christianity is strongly rooted in the European society. They would use the religion card to justify they need to preserve their root. That is why the Hungarian president last week call for European countries to halt all refugees and either give them an option to convert them into Christianity to gain access or barre them from entering in order to preserve the European society.

    This is Europe and it cannot be compared to America. If Europe was in the American continent and America was in Europe, the Americans wouldn't have problem regardless whether they are Muslims, Christians, Buddhist, Black, White, Latino and so on.
    well brah. I don't see christians beheading people for disagreeing with their beliefs.

    yes, ofcourse there are some religious freak out there. but not as nearly harmful as the majority of those savages are. majority of them don't do those heinous acts we see on the news, but they won't also shame it or conodone it. actually they approve it, they just don't voice it over for fear of the backlash. their fawking religion teachs them to be intolerant and to kill people who don't agree with it.

    it's not about race, it's not about nationalism. it's about taking fanatics in your country, offering them help and have them spit on your face and piss on your costumes/culture and try to force his beliefs on you.

    but libtards will never understand this, they can't cope with the idea with going against a minority, even if they're in the wrong.
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    OP, why don't we let the populations of European countries decide. For example, If the swedish population wants to destroy their country, then let them. If not, then don't.
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    Originally Posted by unicornsRreal View Post
    These immigrant Muslims do not want to assimilate to western values. Rather they want Europe and the west to assimilate to them.

    This is ridiculous and dangerous.

    I would close all borders and send these people packin' where they came from.

    If you want to immigrate, do it legally learning the laws in your new found country and leaving your old failed ways behind.
    Yeah, I almost feel bad painting people with such a broad brush but the attacks in france and the status of london are blatant examples. This to me is prime for isis supporters to slip in as sleeper cells and wait for the jihad to break out. Sure it sounds racist but human lives and peoples safety are at risk, europeans should garuntee their own safety, not putting it at risk just to be progressive and "nice".
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    Originally Posted by Darkhare View Post
    Yeah, I almost feel bad painting people with such a broad brush but the attacks in france and the status of london are blatant examples. This to me is prime for isis supporters to slip in as sleeper cells and wait for the jihad to break out. Sure it sounds racist but human lives and peoples safety are at risk, europeans should garuntee their own safety, not putting it at risk just to be progressive and "nice".
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    but they're having such a hard time staying alive...

    i guess not hard enough if they can afford to throw good food away
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    Originally Posted by Beast92 View Post
    I cant blame immigrants and refugees for seeking better living conditions and leaving their homelands to move to European countries.
    I can.

    Explain why you guys are hating on them and dont want them around?
    Because I am a racist.

    I believe Europe is safe and wealthy because it is populated with Europeans, and that preserving an overwhelming ethnic European majority is of critical importance to its future.

    I also believe the conditions that the "refugees" are "fleeing" represents the kind of conditions their ethnicities tend to create, and thus that Europe will decline to third world standards if it imports too many third world people.

    These are my beliefs stated plainly, so that nobody can misunderstand.

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    Originally Posted by BirdMilk View Post
    I can.



    Because I am a racist.

    I believe Europe is safe and wealthy because it is populated with Europeans, and that preserving an overwhelming ethnic European majority is of critical importance to its future.

    I also believe the conditions that the "refugees" are "fleeing" represents the kind of conditions their ethnicities tend to create, and thus that Europe will decline to third world standards if it imports too many third world people.

    These are my beliefs stated plainly, so that nobody can misunderstand.

    If you have any genuine desire to understand a racist point of view, I could answer your questions within the limits of what the rules permit we discuss on this board.
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    You guys seem to be over reacting to this you think all of them are religious n u t cases? They need help, though i do wonder if isis is an excuse for them to leave, either way the whole world screwed up the growth of the middle east its not only thier fault. Just LOL at being able to ignore the hardship of another human and being religious like so many of you anti humanity pro selfish miscers are.
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    You guys seem to be over reacting to this you think all of them are religious n u t cases? They need help, though i do wonder if isis is an excuse for them to leave, either way the whole world screwed up the growth of the middle east its not only thier fault. Just LOL at being able to ignore the hardship of another human and being religious like so many of you anti humanity pro selfish miscers are.
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    Originally Posted by Beast92 View Post
    I cant blame immigrants and refugees for seeking better living conditions and leaving their homelands to move to European countries. It is either that or getting fuking terminated by ISIS, the syrian government, or some other fuked up insurgency group in the Middle East or Africa.

    Stop being racists and discriminating against them based on their religion, wealth or country of origin.

    Explain why you guys are hating on them and dont want them around? Fuk off. This are people just looking to have an opportunity at life and integrate to a safe European society
    You know why I don't want these refugees? It's because they are most likely radicalized Muslims. If it were persecuted Christians I wouldn't even care if some came to Canada/Europe.

    My parents were born in the Caribbean(Trinidad), both have brown skin and so do I. So try calling me a racist...Lol
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    A baseless and disgusting accusation, since I've never made a racist statement or held a racist position anywhere in this forum.

    If that's the best argument you can come up with, your position is a rather pathetic failure.
    Well nutsy54 when people have no argument they go full retard and pull the only card they have left..racism. lmao
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    Urine idiot!

    Not a single race was listed that day...

    Moran!
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    Originally Posted by RIKTER View Post
    OP, why don't we let the populations of European countries decide. For example, If the swedish population wants to destroy their country, then let them. If not, then don't.
    The decision was already taken, officials elected and they have started acting upon it.

    Embrace multiculturalism
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    Originally Posted by BirdMilk View Post
    I can.



    Because I am a racist.

    I believe Europe is safe and wealthy because it is populated with Europeans, and that preserving an overwhelming ethnic European majority is of critical importance to its future.

    I also believe the conditions that the "refugees" are "fleeing" represents the kind of conditions their ethnicities tend to create, and thus that Europe will decline to third world standards if it imports too many third world people.

    These are my beliefs stated plainly, so that nobody can misunderstand.

    If you have any genuine desire to understand a racist point of view, I could answer your questions within the limits of what the rules permit we discuss on this board.
    Well go ahead an explain your point. IMO its future can be as good or better if they integrate a multicultural approach into thier model
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    Well go ahead an explain your point. IMO its future can be as good or better if they integrate a multicultural approach into thier model
    He clearly explained his point. Specifically what don't you understand?

    Btw, multiculturalism was tried and failed. The European leaders have admitted it was a failure. Suggesting it might be "good or better" for Europe's future goes against clear evidence to the contrary.
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    Originally Posted by .MANoWAR. View Post
    He clearly explained his point. Specifically what don't you understand?

    Btw, multiculturalism was tried and failed. The European leaders have admitted it was a failure. Suggesting it might be "good or better" for Europe's future goes against clear evidence to the contrary.
    The US is the best example of a succesful multicultural country, it has been proven succesful by the #1 country in the world.

    Hispanics, asians, indians, muslims, catholics, atheists, etc, everyone co-existing peacefully in the same country. It has worked so well that Obama was elected for 2 terms as POTUS. Lets give Europe a chance for that.
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    OP, why don't we let the populations of European countries decide. For example, If the swedish population wants to destroy their country, then let them. If not, then don't.
    Euros voted to join a club where they don't have this kind of power. They have no say on who they can let into their country.

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    Originally Posted by Beast92 View Post
    The US is the best example of a succesful multicultural country, it has been proven succesful by the #1 country in the world.

    Hispanics, asians, indians, muslims, catholics, atheists, etc, everyone co-existing peacefully in the same country. It has worked so well that Obama was elected for 2 terms as POTUS. Lets give Europe a chance for that.
    It works in America because it is a country of immigrants. It wont work in Europe because most people feel like the country primarily belongs to the ethnicity that built the country and has lived there for thousands of years.
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    Originally Posted by Beast92 View Post
    The US is the best example of a succesful multicultural country, it has been proven succesful by the #1 country in the world.

    Hispanics, asians, indians, muslims, catholics, atheists, etc, everyone co-existing peacefully in the same country. It has worked so well that Obama was elected for 2 terms as POTUS. Lets give Europe a chance for that.
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    EXCLUSIVE — Displaced Disney Cast Member: How They Replaced Me, Other Americans, With Cheap Foreigners On H1B Visas

    The above story really highlights what ultimately is wrong with the notion of diversity, multiculturalism and open borders: resources are finite, we don't have enough to go around.

    Food, water, housing, jobs, these are not something we have an infinite amount of. Without restrictions to movement between countries, you start to see specific problems. Competition for every resource becomes insane.

    Now this is where the free marketers will say, "but competition drives the economy and makes everything better!"

    Yes, that's true to a point - but when you have a line around the block for interviews at fast food companies, that level of competition is no longer helping the economy.

    Instead, it is setting the stage for nepotism: how does somebody stand out from the hundreds of other applicants, except by having a personal inroad? At that point competition selects for nepotism more than capability, while leaving untold numbers out in the cold. That isn't how we want the economy to be, but that's what importing foreigners does.

    Another reason open borders multiculturalism is the way to destruction is that pluralism is awful and necessarily leads to ruin.

    Pluralism is the idea that multiple standards or systems, in this case cultural standards and systems, can exist simultaneously with equal validity. That sounds cool, but in Europe you're already seeing some real problems developing because Sharia and English customs are simply not compatible - one emphasizes personal freedom and choice, the other is coercive and violently enforces ideological conformity.

    As usual, the feelgoods evaporate when we find out that we actually can't "just all get along." When one group believes in "live and let live" while the other group believes in doing exactly as they do or getting beheaded with a machete in the street, you have a bit of a problem.

    This problem is intrinsic to pluralism. You can see it play out in other ways too, but I am inclined against detailing them lest I violate the rules of the forum.

    It's pretty obvious that pluralism rests on the notion of relativism, which boils down to "Who am I to say what's better or worse? It's all just opinion!"

    That too sounds good so long as you don't think about it, and falls flat in reality. It falls flat because it's essentially a commandment to cease thinking about anything, and to cease figuring out what ideas and behaviors actually get the best results.

    Under relativism, you can't do that anymore - ideas and behaviors that by your measure get poor results have to be "equal" to ideas that get good results. If I want to hit myself in the head with a hammer every Tuesday morning and run naked through traffic, under total relativism you can't say that what I am doing is dumber or less productive than working in a chemistry lab trying to find a sustainable biopolymer that can do everything steel can do at a fraction of the cost. This idea is routinely applied to cultural and ethnic differences, and it is insanity just the same. Again, I must be very abstract here as per what the forum rules restrict me from discussing.

    If you are an inquiring mind you will consider these thought processes and how they lead to problems that are quite avoidable.
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    You guys seem to be over reacting to this you think all of them are religious n u t cases? They need help, though i do wonder if isis is an excuse for them to leave, either way the whole world screwed up the growth of the middle east its not only thier fault. Just LOL at being able to ignore the hardship of another human and being religious like so many of you anti humanity pro selfish miscers are.
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    Those problems have been there forever. That region has been at war for millennia. They've lived under dictators for centuries. It's so bad that there is an annual "Arab Spring" to try to overthrow some of them. So why is it all of sudden everyone else's responsibility to take care of them? I hate it for them, I really do. And if I thought taking these people in would make the world better I'd be all for it. This will not make the world a better place.
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    Originally Posted by jtaylor2010 View Post
    Those problems have been there forever. That region has been at war for millennia. They've lived under dictators for centuries. It's so bad that there is an annual "Arab Spring" to try to overthrow some of them. So why is it all of sudden everyone else's responsibility to take care of them? I hate it for them, I really do. And if I thought taking these people in would make the world better I'd be all for it. This will not make the world a better place.
    So they dont have a right to do the correct thing right now just because some of their peers fuked up a few hundred years ago?
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    So they dont have a right to do the correct thing right now just because some of their peers fuked up a few hundred years ago?
    The correct thing is to invade other countries instead of staying in their own country and fix the problem?

    Just like how illegal Mexicans come over to the US, instead of fixing their own countries' problems, they come over to put a burden on another country.
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    Originally Posted by Shepherd1125 View Post
    The correct thing is to invade other countries instead of staying in their own country and fix the problem?

    Just like how illegal Mexicans come over to the US, instead of fixing their own countries' problems, they come over to put a burden on another country.
    How would they fix the problem? they dont have the means to do it. Up to a 100 years ago "fixing problems" was feasible for civil groups, since the most important resource for winning a civil war was man-power. Enough man power was enough to over throw governments or demolish opposing groups.

    The times have changed. Any oppresive government can end a revolution in a matter of hours if they wish too. A single fighter jet can end the life of a few thousand insurgents within a few minutes... I'd like to hear how you suggest they fix their problems, srs



    What do you mean with your illegal mexican post? They are going there to provide labor and skills currently demanded by the american economy, no burden.
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    Originally Posted by Beast92 View Post
    How would they fix the problem? they dont have the means to do it. Up to a 100 years ago "fixing problems" was feasible for civil groups, since the most important resource for winning a civil war was man-power. Enough man power was enough to over throw governments or demolish opposing groups.

    The times have changed. Any oppresive government can end a revolution in a matter of hours if they wish too. A single fighter jet can end the life of a few thousand insurgents within a few minutes... I'd like to hear how you suggest they fix their problems, srs



    What do you mean with your illegal mexican post? They are going there to provide labor and skills currently demanded by the american economy, no burden.
    the same way the kurds have, forming the peshmerga

    literately droves of even females have joined just not to allow their land to be taken, but yet here theres a large majority of military aged males trying to get into Europe
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