For the best part of two millennia, Christianity, in all of its repellant and morally self righteous forms, persecuted anyone they could call out for "heresy". Think of Galieo, the Spanish Inquisition,the Auto-da-fe. Remember witches' trials in the United States itself. Think of the Jews thrown out of Spain in the late Middle Ages. Remember she refused to let her deputies marry people according to the law. What about their rights?
Not the mention the rights of gay etc people, who have been persecuted for so long "in the name of God".
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09-11-2015, 04:42 PM #211
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09-11-2015, 06:34 PM #212
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09-11-2015, 08:02 PM #213
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States rights are subject to the 14th Amendment. The Supreme Court ruled that the 14th Amendment protects the right of gay couples to marry. Therefore, it's legal regardless of any state law. There's nothing new in putting the Constitution over the individual states. That's how the country was designed to be run, and there's abundant precedent. If you want to re-write the Constitution, knock yourself out. If you can get two-thirds of Congress and three-fourths of the states to agree with you, you'll be in the big leagues.
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09-12-2015, 06:18 AM #214
Agreed.
The 14th Amendment's Due Process and Equal Protection clauses expressly apply to and limit the power of the States. Moreover, the Supremacy Clause invalidates any State constitution or statute that is inconsistent with the U.S. Constitution, and also requires that State officials swear to uphold the U.S. Constitution. So, state marriage laws inconsistent with Obergefell are unconstitutional, null, and void.
Davis had the benefit of arguing her position in full, losing, appealing twice, and losing again. That's ample due process. Her rights were not violated. There has been no overreach here. In fact, the Courts and U.S. Attorney have been remarkably tolerant of Davis' recalcitrant nonsense.
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09-18-2015, 06:27 AM #215
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