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08-27-2015, 03:32 PM #61
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08-27-2015, 03:46 PM #69
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08-27-2015, 03:50 PM #71
You're a moron aren't you? I'll let you sit and think about what you just said there and maybe you'll be able to figure out the difference between someone who has been tried and convicted of a crime in a court of a law for murder over someone who is decapitated for having different beliefs than someone else.
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08-27-2015, 03:51 PM #72
Chits all over the news/tv/internet, it's pretty hard to avoid. Is it any different to turning on the news and seeing some tragedy in a third world country where hundreds of people were killed? What about that large explosion in China recently....did you cringe and sayer a silent prayer for the dead before condemning all and sundry for their wicked ways?
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08-27-2015, 03:52 PM #73
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when I was trying to figure out what was going on I clicked on a yahoo article to read about it. Obvi yahoo is for potatoes that can't read so it literally was just a video of a news report. **** was 4 minutes long. less than 1 minute into the video they show the news clip. Then they just loop it over and over and over again while they talked about it. It just kept playing.. like wtf?
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08-27-2015, 03:52 PM #74
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08-27-2015, 03:55 PM #76
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08-27-2015, 03:57 PM #78
I know it's everywhere, that's what I'm referring to, not just the misc specifically.
This kind of thing should be reported on of course, but just like you can report on child porn without showing the videos you can report on murder without showing a video. It's unnecessary. It benefits no one except for the killer (had he still been alive), this is exactly what he wanted.
Not really sure what you are getting at at the end there, but I'm not religious.
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08-27-2015, 04:05 PM #79
You came across that way. I don't agree with the execution being aired publicly, but whom do you blame, the public for viewing it, or the tv networks for airing it in the first place. Some people are naturally curious. Some miscers get off on it i think. My only gripe is that people like the OP think they can decide for others what they should and shouldn't see.
Unofficial misc anthem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw1ncADC9KM
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08-27-2015, 04:07 PM #80
Yeah because we all know how seeing death (read: death in movies/ tv shows) turns everyone into a serial killer. In fact, people SEEK it out in a movie/tv show because it entertains them. Where are the cries of serial killers when that occurs? by the millions, fyi, every single day (see: walking dead, game of thrones, etc).
Oh wait, you say 'but this is real life'. I ask, is there a difference though? I would argue not really, not in any tangible/meaningful way. It is probably contributing to the need/want to view such shooting videos like the one we are talking about by slowly 'desensitizing' us due to repeated exposure. The boundary between whether it is real/fake is blurry as all hell and it gets crossed with ease. Although I do admit that for me, there is a difference viewing something I know as fake versus real, knowing the very real consequences that it represents but still.. it's easier to view than perhaps 50 years ago.
On grounds of prohibiting free speech/expression - there is and will never be a valid reason for it as long as we want to 'pretend' we are free beings. So let people watch it, let people post it, let people discuss it. It, in theory, should be their right by sheer fact of birth into this world if nothing else.
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I bet it's the same people that want to dictate what I should be doing in the privacy of my own bedroom, whom I have sex with, whom I love, etc. (insert, marriage debate, gay debate, gun laws, etc). All these issues boil down to an infringement of what should be at the very least our 1 pillar of a 'right' - freedom, liberty and right to self-actualization/determination. Free will.
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08-27-2015, 04:09 PM #81
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08-27-2015, 04:10 PM #82
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I'm too much of a bish to watch it. Snuff videos make me sick. I can't stand gore. Watching someone die in a video is something I find dehumanizing and unsettling.
But it's information that's out there, people can post it and I don't have to view it. Those who want to see it can. That's not something I want to take away from people.
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08-27-2015, 04:10 PM #83
I want to offer a personal point of view.
Yesterday was the 15th anniversary of my brothers murder. I learned he was dead when I pulled up to his house and found the police there, with him laying dead in the street covered in a bloody sheet. He was my best friend.
I had to call my parents and tell my father that his son was dead. Then I had to call my sister and my other brother. Some of my relatives found out by watching CNN who reported my brother as the shooter, since his car was being used.
The guy who killed him lived in the same building as him and shot him for his car. The guy then went on to kill a firefighter who was collecting for charity outside the firehouse (it was his exes boyfriend), then his exes mother. He killed himself at his exes place when the SWAT team arrived.
When I got back to his place from the police station, the reporters were already descending. They all wanted to talk to me. I refused to give an interview.
The next day, we were going up to his house to get his valuable stuff out of his house (it wasn't in the best neighborhood) and we stopped to get gas. In the gas station we saw the paper from his city. The Waterbury Republican. On the front page was a picture of my brother lying in the street covered in the sheet. It was soul crushing.
While we were moving his stuff out, we had to have the police come and order the reporters to leave us alone after one of them entered the house, came up to the third floor where we were and tried to interview us.
Is the media hard on the family? Yes. Do I think it should be suppressed? No. The media is necessary to open society. Unfortunately, they can be unscrupulous and exploitative.
For those who haven't heard me discuss this previously and think I'm frauding:
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08-27-2015, 04:12 PM #84
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08-27-2015, 04:13 PM #85
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Too bad aids didn't get him first...How you gonna rip it like that son? I don't play that, cause its action, I go... pat, pat, pat 'cause i'm black son! That's right, i'm the black sheep, the real black sheep. I'm the black sheep, the real black sheep. I'm the black sheep, the real black sheep.
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08-27-2015, 04:20 PM #86
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08-27-2015, 04:20 PM #87
I wholeheartedly disagree. To the masses and idiots - yes perhaps. To the people who want to contribute to a healthier or better society/world, it is pivotal that these things are given attention. Note that I didn't define what 'kind' of attention (through media, studies, whatever). But it is vital to allow us to investigate, describe, prescribe theories, discuss, find solutions and just to be aware of the issues we all have facing us. It touches on a host of issues, very real issues we face as a civilization. Number one ignorance. But also racism, gun violence, media purpose, media sensationalizing, symptoms of a sick society, mental illness, mental health, purpose of journalism, news-reporting, etc.
Shine the light, let the issues glisten in the harsh light of it. This is literally the only way we will proceed forward and hopefully, idealistically (perhaps somewhere in a Utopian future).. we can rectify and address some of these issues it brings up. Otherwise we are just running on the spot, on a treadmill.. eating a biscuit whilst burning exactly the biscuits calories every 5 minutes rendering us at a standstill.
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08-27-2015, 04:30 PM #88
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What really blows my mind in the video is that there were three people there and he stood around for 15 seconds with a gun out and no one saw him. How can you be so oblivious to your surroundings? Espevially the lady they were interviewing. She was practically facing him.
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08-27-2015, 04:44 PM #89
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