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    Originally Posted by bobbydigitaloa View Post
    I completely get the point...my point is people should stop being pussies.
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    it may not be worth it to you after a certain age, but to some it may be. there's pros and cons to everything brah
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    Originally Posted by 308smk View Post
    Not knowing what you are doing and then hurting yourself =/= lifting heavy weights.

    Tons of strong as fuk old dudes.
    even if you know what you are doing, the chances of getting injured are there

    every sport has its risks, played rugby many years (very dangerous), now I do martial arts and get hit all the time, anything can happens...but lifting heavy weights is hard as fuk for your body, specially for you spinal column
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    Originally Posted by 308smk View Post
    I bet it would be lower than the general population who is untrained.

    There are all kinds of weak, broken old people with bad hips, knees, backs, shoulders etc just from working and never touching a barbell in their life.
    I would agree with that.
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    im 19 and my joint aren't at the best condition. feels bad man, i just want to lift heavy
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    Originally Posted by pablocai View Post
    I have a lot of respect for you and guys who are even older and still lift heavy, but you know what Im trying to say

    its all good until it happens...then comes the regret

    talked to many docs because of my dad problem...they have all said lifting heavy is very dangerous and many end up paraplegic
    I think there's a fine line between lifting heavy and trying to slowly get stonger and lifting so heavy you can't handle it

    Aka deadlifting way too much or squatting too much and destroying your back
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    Originally Posted by bobbydigitaloa View Post
    I completely get the point...my point is people should stop being pussies.

    If you're really injured then don't be an ass...if you have a little elbow pain then go fuk your mother and get back under the bar. Not telling you to violate your mom...I'm speaking in general.
    I understand trust me. Dealt with the sick call soldiers while I was in the military.

    youre right there is a difference. and that's where training smart comes into play also. If my elbow hurts, I may not want to try to hit the pr of 405, but instead work on something else.
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    no chit they cant walk or bend properly. They were on gear which causes substantial damage when lifting heavy. When you are natty your body does a good job telling you when you are damaged and to relax
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    Lol at meatheads trying to justify how lifting heavy is alpha. I had severe lower back pain recently, got an MRI and thank God it wasn't anything serious.

    When I was lying in bed, not being able to stand up or walk properly. I thought to myself, health is one of the most important things in life, along with family.

    Needless to say, I've learned my lesson and stopped lifting heavy. I try to lift sitting down as much as possible. There's nothing cool about breaking your back cause you tried to show off in front of random people or your buddies by lifting heavy.
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    Originally Posted by pablocai View Post
    even if you know what you are doing, the chances of getting injured are there

    every sport has its risks, played rugby many years (very dangerous), now I do martial arts and get hit all the time, anything can happens...but lifting heavy weights is hard as fuk for your body, specially for you spinal column
    The chances of blowing a disc when you bend down improperly to pick up your golfball is also there.
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    Originally Posted by BioDiver View Post
    Now that I'm 30 I can't deadlift as heavy as I used to and my knees are shot to chit to the point that I can't squat anymore. Hell, doing OHP yesterday lit up my shoulders and disks.
    I'm 30 also but have zero issues like this. Wtf happened to you?
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    Originally Posted by bobbydigitaloa View Post
    I completely get the point...my point is people should stop being pussies.

    If you're really injured then don't be an ass...if you have a little elbow pain then go fuk your mother and get back under the bar. Not telling you to violate your mom...I'm speaking in general.
    this. a little inflammation isnt ****. work through it to reach your goals.


    what bobby D is trying to say is....listen to your body...and dont be a pussy.
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    Originally Posted by poverty******* View Post
    im 19 and my joint aren't at the best condition. feels bad man, i just want to lift heavy
    you cant lift heavy, but if at 19 your joints already hurt...then good luck in 10 or 20 years

    just be smart about it, focus on your form, leave the ego at the door

    Originally Posted by eod8989 View Post
    I think there's a fine line between lifting heavy and trying to slowly get stonger and lifting so heavy you can't handle it

    Aka deadlifting way too much or squatting too much and destroying your back
    you are right, its all about slow progress and perfect form


    but even with good form, doing shoulder press with 50 or 60 lbs can fuk up your rotator...the same with everything, sometimes chit just happens
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    but how are my legs supposed to grow without lifting heavy
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    this thread hasnt changed my mind, i'm sitll gonna lift heavy
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    lol some people negging me, so "alpha"


    my point, some of you are probably genetic freaks and can lift very heavy and never get injured

    but most of us, average guys, should be more cautious about it


    good luck once you turn 60 and cant even play with your grand kids because your back hurts
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    I completely agree OP, I was lifting my heaviest about 8 months ago, I was dealing with rotator cuff issues and muscle strains in my legs from deadlifts, they would not heal. Took a couple weeks off and began to go into a higher rep range, my body definitely doesn't feel as taxed when I'm done but I have no more shoulder issues and don't creek when I get out of bed. Lifting heavy just isn't worth the longer term effects.
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    fukk lifting heavy.

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    Originally Posted by pablocai View Post
    lol some people negging me, so "alpha"


    my point, some of you are probably genetic freaks and can lift very heavy and never get injured

    but most of us, average guys, should be more cautious about it


    good luck once you turn 60 and cant even play with your grand kids because your back hurts
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    Lol @ having kids
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    OP is correct.
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    Only read a few posts but getting injured is not the result of heavy weight, it's the result of poor form. You can get hurt just deadlifting 135 if your form isn't correct. It's all relative when it comes to what is heavy and what is not also.
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    This just in!

    People with poor form suffer injuries later in life
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    I completely understand why so many of you *******s are scared of getting hurt from lifting hungry..

    90% of people I see in the gym squat, dead, and bench with piss poor form.

    I've squated 3 times this week, each time the other 2 racks were being used as well, by people with horrible form. I'm sure most of you people scared, are these same people.
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    Originally Posted by pablocai View Post
    lol some people negging me, so "alpha"


    my point, some of you are probably genetic freaks and can lift very heavy and never get injured

    but most of us, average guys, should be more cautious about it


    good luck once you turn 60 and cant even play with your grand kids because your back hurts
    I agree with OP completely - in the end everyone has to decide for themselves and we all have different bodies. I should have quit "heavy" lifting years before I did, but I'm glad I'm out of that mindset now and am not ashamed to do exercise that makes me feel better and heals my body.

    Lifting (or whatever physical stuff) is fun but unless you're going to be competitive and leave a mark I'm not sure it's worth destroying your body and your future. The world really ****ing needs your 400lb DL, right? Age your joints thirty years in chasing it, then injure your back on another 1RM attempt. Wow so worth it.

    I used to love it, though, full into the "more pain, more gain" lifestyle, making things as hard as possible regardless of the benefit and outcome. Definitely think it was foolish, but oh well. Some people just have to ruin their bodies one way or another, maybe if it wasn't lifting it would have been drugs or something.

    Saying it's preventable by "using good form" doesn't really make sense, we all think we use good form and we're not idiots, **** still happens to the best-educated lifters there are. You can look back at an injury and say, "Oh, well obv he did something wrong," but that doesn't mean it was preventable or recognisable at the time. Brahs who've been lucky and not got injured, your time will come, dead srs.

    And also it's more about the slow degenerative effect, not acute injuries. Past a certain age and a certain level of training it's all going to wear down your joints and be wholly degenerative, just like people who do manual labour and get 100% ****ed up. And we do it just for a hobby and ruin ourselves by choice, not even getting paid for it. Lifting is wholly degenerative for trained people, it's only going to lead to a "stronger" body if we're talking about previously untrained people, who may respond favourably to it.
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    Originally Posted by brbacquiring View Post
    I agree with OP completely - in the end everyone has to decide for themselves and we all have different bodies. I should have quit "heavy" lifting years before I did, but I'm glad I'm out of that mindset now and am not ashamed to do exercise that makes me feel better and heals my body.

    Lifting (or whatever physical stuff) is fun but unless you're going to be competitive and leave a mark I'm not sure it's worth destroying your body and your future. The world really ****ing needs your 400lb DL, right? Age your joints thirty years in chasing it, then injure your back on another 1RM attempt. Wow so worth it.

    I used to love it, though, full into the "more pain, more gain" lifestyle, making things as hard as possible regardless of the benefit and outcome. Definitely think it was foolish, but oh well. Some people just have to ruin their bodies one way or another, maybe if it wasn't lifting it would have been drugs or something.
    lmao @ 400lbs deadlift ruining your body
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    What's lifting heavy? I am currently in the 5 to 8 rep range, and it doesn't feel light, but my form is much more controlled than in the 1--3 range. When I was doing 12 reps of everything, I was suffering badly the day afterwards and had to cut the amount of training days to 2-3 a week (full body).

    Sometimes I worry about my spine. But then I know guys who haven't lifted a thing in their life with busted backs and I think who are we kidding... if you are unlucky, you'll snap your **** up when getting into your car, and if you're lucky you'll still be taking the stairs two at a time when you're 80 even if you've lifted heavy for decades.

    Edit: I realize it's going to take me another 10 years before I lift enough weight to really cause joint issues, but I still think about it.
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    I don't care unless I'm in chronic pain I'm going to keep getting bigger and stronger. I don't squat or dead lift but I'm going to keep hitting my upper body until I reach aesthetic god mode. I will not give up.
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