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    How many grams of carbs per day while clean bulking?

    I am 5'8 172 lbs, my macros are 2400 calories, 220 protein, 300 carbs, and around 50 fats, i am going on like a 5 month bulk but i feel like i am really carb sensitive, i always wake up heavier and bloated when i take more than 300 grams of carbs, what should i do? Should i go down to 200 grams per dayand up my protein? I also wanted to know if there is any suppliment to lower the chance of gaining body fat because i really want to take this bulk nice and clean, thanks for your time guys
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    Rate of fat gain will be mostly determined by your calorie surplus. There is some impact from your insulin sensitivity though, if you're an endomorph you're likely better off with more fats and less carbs while ectomorphs are mostly the reverse.
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    Originally Posted by blue9steel View Post
    Rate of fat gain will be mostly determined by your calorie surplus. There is some impact from your insulin sensitivity though, if you're an endomorph you're likely better off with more fats and less carbs while ectomorphs are mostly the reverse.
    Please stop with the endomorph/ectomorph crap, ****totypes are made up BS. You are right on about fat gain being determined by calorie surplus.
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    your best bet to utilize those carbs better is to place the majority of them around your workout. There is no need to up the protein and if anything I would up your fat.
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    Originally Posted by JohnGalt25 View Post
    Please stop with the endomorph/ectomorph crap, ****totypes are made up BS.
    Yeah, the ****types are an inaccurate way to look at it, but often a convenient simplification. The deciding factor is actually insulin sensitivity, which does tend to correlate with the ****types but that's just observational.
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    Nope to supplements.

    Why not consume a bit more fat OP?

    I think its worth considering this carbs thing is all in your head? I cant imagine 100g carbs @ 2530 cals having any meaningful effect on a healthy adult male weighing 172 pounds.

    Have you gained any weight yet, how long you been at the increased intake?

    Lmao at ****totypes, nonsense.
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    Originally Posted by WHATtheIF View Post
    your best bet to utilize those carbs better is to place the majority of them around your workout. There is no need to up the protein and if anything I would up your fat.
    Carbs aren't automatically stored as fat if they're not consumed around a workout, they are stored as glycogen for use in later exertion
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    Originally Posted by JohnGalt25 View Post
    Carbs aren't automatically stored as fat if they're not consumed around a workout, they are stored as glycogen for use in later exertion
    it has nothing to do with being stored as "fat"

    the op said he feels tired and bloated when he eats a lot of carbs.
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    A few things:

    - Dietary fat needs to be higher. I'd go for around 70g (0.4g/lb = ~69g for you). Your protein intake is fine. Carbs can be lower if you desire, but be sure that you're still in a surplus.

    - For a slow bulk, you simply need to be in a slight surplus. It doesn't matter how many carbs you have within your calorie allowance after meeting protein and fat needs. If you haven't estimated your maintenance yet (or if you don't have a good idea of what it is), then estimate it using the stickies and add 10% to that amount. Aim to gain around 2-3 pounds per month.

    - Daily weigh-ins can vary by several pounds because of water weight shifts, glycogen, and undigested food among other things. Don't get too focused on the scale number. Adjust based on the weight trend as well as the mirror and how you feel in the gym.

    - Supplements aren't necessary. Just take your bulk slow and steady.

    Also, don't worry so much about "clean" eating. Read: The Dirt On Clean Eating
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    Originally Posted by 23andres1 View Post
    I am 5'8 172 lbs, my macros are 2400 calories, 220 protein, 300 carbs, and around 50 fats, i am going on like a 5 month bulk but i feel like i am really carb sensitive, i always wake up heavier and bloated when i take more than 300 grams of carbs, what should i do? Should i go down to 200 grams per dayand up my protein? I also wanted to know if there is any suppliment to lower the chance of gaining body fat because i really want to take this bulk nice and clean, thanks for your time guys
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    99% sure you're not "Carb sensitive". I would keep them the same. If you want to "clean bulk", keep your surplus slight.
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    Originally Posted by 23andres1 View Post
    I also wanted to know if there is any suppliment to lower the chance of gaining body fat because i really want to take this bulk nice and clean, thanks for your time guys
    there is , but its illegal in USA
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    Originally Posted by 23andres1 View Post
    i feel like i am really carb sensitive, i always wake up heavier and bloated when i take more than 300 grams of carbs,
    I thought only purpose of bulking was waking up heavier than previous morning everyday
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    Originally Posted by ShyGuyXS View Post
    A few things:

    - Dietary fat needs to be higher. I'd go for around 70g (0.4g/lb = ~69g for you). Your protein intake is fine. Carbs can be lower if you desire, but be sure that you're still in a surplus.

    - For a slow bulk, you simply need to be in a slight surplus. It doesn't matter how many carbs you have within your calorie allowance after meeting protein and fat needs. If you haven't estimated your maintenance yet (or if you don't have a good idea of what it is), then estimate it using the stickies and add 10% to that amount. Aim to gain around 2-3 pounds per month.

    - Daily weigh-ins can vary by several pounds because of water weight shifts, glycogen, and undigested food among other things. Don't get too focused on the scale number. Adjust based on the weight trend as well as the mirror and how you feel in the gym.

    - Supplements aren't necessary. Just take your bulk slow and steady.

    Also, don't worry so much about "clean" eating. Read: The Dirt On Clean Eating
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    also most people say cardio during a bulk is counterproductive, but it really isn't. Throw in some light cardio on non-lifting days or 2-3 times per week it helps keep the fat off. Also no need to eat as much carbs on non-training days either.
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    Originally Posted by 23andres1 View Post
    I am 5'8 172 lbs, my macros are 2400 calories, 220 protein, 300 carbs, and around 50 fats, i am going on like a 5 month bulk but i feel like i am really carb sensitive, i always wake up heavier and bloated when i take more than 300 grams of carbs, what should i do? Should i go down to 200 grams per dayand up my protein? I also wanted to know if there is any suppliment to lower the chance of gaining body fat because i really want to take this bulk nice and clean, thanks for your time guys
    172lbs trying to bulk on 2400 cal and thinking about lowering your cal? you crazy
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    Too many variables bro

    For me clean bulking with high carbs is 1050
    Lower carbs 750 with higher fats
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    Ive gained about a pound in the last 2 weeks
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    Originally Posted by 23andres1 View Post
    Ive gained about a pound in the last 2 weeks
    Please upload a picture. At 172 pounds it's unlikely you would benefit from bulking.
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