Bernie Sanders For President Crew Checking In

[DrinkingBull]

Free college free healthcare free food free gas free mortgages




omg thank you bernie sanders for making money grow on trees

Free missiles for Israel, free jails for nonviolent drug offenders,

Fuk closing loopholes for ultrarich that let them evade their taxes let's all just work 50 hour work weeks!

Thank you based jeb bush

[DrinkingBull]

A gang of thugs (US Founding Fathers) broke away from another gang of thugs (UK ruling class thugs) and declared that they will no longer pay tax to the king, but rather collect tax themselves from now on. They then killed those who didn't pay them up.

We do NOT have a say where our money goes. Because I say my money goes to me, or to charity of my choice, or to business etc. But guess what, it doesn't matter what I say, my tax money goes to US government against my will. So no, I do not have a say.

Entitlement spending goes UP under republicans, there are just as many wars under democrats, and support for Israel never changes, neither does the war on drugs regardless of which political party is in office at the moment. You need to realize that there are NO democrats or republicans, policy is always war and theft. Rhetoric doesn't matter.

There is no lesser of two evils, we have ONE evil government bird with two wings to give you an illusion of meaningless choice.

Just finished reading atlas shrugged?

The problem with a completely free market is eventually monopolies form and all the sudden we have an aristocracy and indentured servitude again.

Not that that's what we don't have now.

[kusok]

Just finished reading atlas shrugged?

The problem with a completely free market is eventually monopolies form and all the sudden we have an aristocracy and indentured servitude again.

Not that that's what we don't have now.

Monopolies and aristocracy are fine as long as they don't force people at gun point to give them their stuff like IRS does. McDonalds can't force you to buy their burger. Some fat moron who calls himself king can call himself king or queen or whatever he wants to, as long as he leaves me alone.

Free market has not been achieved yet. When some elements of free market have been tried, it resulted in biggest wealth creation, the most reduction in poverty as millions of people came to US and free market capitalism to escape poverty, and did, created the biggest Middle Class in history of the world. Free market is the biggest weapon against indentured servitude and monopolies and aristocracy. We never had it thou. Gotta evolve more. Gotta continue to shake the chains off. Government is the biggest aristocracy and monopoly. Government is part of the aristocracy and monopoly. You're putting a fox in charge of the hen house. Government will not save you from the ruling class. Government IS the ruling class, it serves the ruling class, it's tied with ruling class, it's one and the same, it's called the Establishment or Wall Street Washington Complex.

[kusok]

Free missiles for Israel, free jails for nonviolent drug offenders,

Fuk closing loopholes for ultrarich that let them evade their taxes let's all just work 50 hour work weeks!

Thank you based jeb bush

Those things ^^^ are horrible, but they don't make what YOU and Sanders propose any more acceptable.

[tnel00]

The problem with a completely free market is eventually monopolies form and all the sudden we have an aristocracy and indentured servitude again.

Go ahead and name a single monopoly that was formed under a completely free market. I'll wait...

[IronRooster2]

Said the same things about Obama in 2008.

I'm sorry, are we bombing Iran right now or have we decided to let the Middle East stabilize the Middle East?

[DrinkingBull]

Go ahead and name a single monopoly that was formed under a completely free market. I'll wait...

Go ahead and name an example of a completely free market, I'll wait...

[tnel00]

Go ahead and name an example of a completely free market, I'll wait...

So you acknowledge that your claim of monopolies forming under free markets is bull**** right?

[DrinkingBull]

So you acknowledge that your claim of monopolies forming under free markets is bull**** right?

One of the fundamental functions of a government is to brake up monopolies.

You do know AT&T has had to be broken up several times right?

They recently just acquired DirecTV, they tried to acquire T-Mobile but were blocked from doing so.

AT&T would be the sole telecommunications provider currently if it weren't for govt intervention.

Just look at what happened to our news when the market was deregulated. From fifty to five in a couple decades.

At least the guy above acknowledges that a monopoly is an inevitable consequence of a free market.

[21infantry]

Living in Europe crew, Bernie sounds like a European politician. Stay away far away. If you are so blind you cant see what is happening across the pond because of policies just like Sanders youre a moron.

[BeastModeFTW]

Free missiles for Israel, free jails for nonviolent drug offenders,

Fuk closing loopholes for ultrarich that let them evade their taxes let's all just work 50 hour work weeks!

Thank you based jeb bush

this.

[IronRooster2]

It blows my mind that people can look at the govt, see how inefficient it is, how corrupt it is, how controlling and inhibiting it is, and think "we need to make it bigger."

It provides over 40% of all operating income in the country. Without the government, there would be no economy.

Why do you hate people having jobs?

If the govt were a business it would be bankrupt in every area

.... are you on cat drugs? Where do you think MONEY COMES FROM??? Right. Mechanisms created by the government.

If the government were a business, it would print a bunch of money, keep it for itself, and not do anything else.

Thank fukking god the government is not a business and that everything doesn't have to be done to profit (steal) from someone else.

Your world where the interstate and the internet don't exist is not one I would like to join. You keep living on that island mahn.

[21infantry]

It provides over 40% of all operating income in the country. Without the government, there would be no economy.

Why do you hate people having jobs?



.... are you on cat drugs? Where do you think MONEY COMES FROM??? Right. Mechanisms created by the government.

If the government were a business, it would print a bunch of money, keep it for itself, and not do anything else.

Thank fukking god the government is not a business and that everything doesn't have to be done to profit (steal) from someone else.

Your world where the interstate and the internet don't exist is not one I would like to join. You keep living on that island mahn.

What? You must be the resident commie on the board. Sound like ****ing Marx.

[InstantLoser]

Thank fukking god the government is not a business and that everything doesn't have to be done to profit (steal) from someone else.
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Stealing from people is literally all the Government does.

[21infantry]

I love the Dip****s on the board, as I said before look over across the pond and see what is happening. Bernie type politics at play. The proof is in the pudding. You have a huge ongoing study going on in Europe and its getting a big fat F.

[HubertL]

Thank fukking god the government is not a business and that everything doesn't have to be done to profit (steal) from someone else.

Your world where the interstate and the internet don't exist is not one I would like to join. You keep living on that island mahn.

The country is supposed to be run like a business, not a charity. Businesses do not steal from people, they generate wealth through innovation and supplying demand.

[tnel00]

One of the fundamental functions of a government is to brake up monopolies.

Lol what? If that was true, please explain how the only monopolies that have existed, only existed because of Government intervention into a particular industry

You do know AT&T has had to be broken up several times right?

They recently just acquired DirecTV, they tried to acquire T-Mobile but were blocked from doing so.

AT&T would be the sole telecommunications provider currently if it weren't for govt intervention.

Just look at what happened to our news when the market was deregulated. From fifty to five in a couple decades.

At least the guy above acknowledges that a monopoly is an inevitable consequence of a free market.

A free market may lead to a oligopoly and in low demand industries it could lead to short term monopolies. But no, a free market will never lead to a long term monopoly. The only way a long term monopoly can exist is if a central authority, i.e. government, establishes barriers to entry that only existing companies with substantial capital can handle, or they completely take over the industry.

[isthisreallife5]

If Bernie gets elected why even work? If I work I'll get taxed 60-75% and if I don't work I'll just get free stuff.

[kusok]

One of the fundamental functions of a government is to brake up monopolies.

You do know AT&T has had to be broken up several times right?

They recently just acquired DirecTV, they tried to acquire T-Mobile but were blocked from doing so.

AT&T would be the sole telecommunications provider currently if it weren't for govt intervention.

Just look at what happened to our news when the market was deregulated. From fifty to five in a couple decades.

At least the guy above acknowledges that a monopoly is an inevitable consequence of a free market.

Monopolies are protected by the government. Large corporations use lobbyists to pass regulations that kill small competition and create monopolies. Largest corporations also get bailed out and get no-bid massive government contracts which further help make them even more powerful and monopolistic. Government is what gives corporations license to operate and legal status. The CEOs and stock holders of these companies that you're trying to curb in are more powerful and rich today than they ever were during the age of the robber barons. Free market creates competition to the monopolists.

[GhenghisPWN]

I'm only going to assume you're in public accounting right now, correct? If you're a CPA? I'm in public accounting, pulling around 150k at the moment. When you eventually get to my position you will realize why I am so strongly against socialism. Bernie will not lower your taxes, don't be delusional. Everyone will pay more to our inefficient government.

true chit. see all these college lib interns on my fb wall complaining about climate change, wage myth gap, and min. wage yet they have no real world experience



you must be a first year

I get it, you're a young kid probably around 22 with no clue yet. Are you actually full time yet? Or have you just interned? I'm thinking the latter. I'm sure you know we can routinely pull 90-100 hour weeks depending on the client in the big 4 during busy season, and that we are paid in salary not hourly? Only the interns get hourly. When you work that much and see the government take 40% of it away, you're not going to be happy. If you're ok with this, then I have nothing more to say to you.

Your reading comprehension is a bit rusty as I addressed many of your barbs in previous posts, but here I go again.

1. Yes, CPA in public accounting.

2. As stated, one busy season as intern, two as full-time hire. Much older than 22.

3. As stated I work at a firm that pays hourly. Idgaf if you work 100 hours for salary at Big 4, tough **** you drank their Kool-Aid.

4. I work similar hours, in a high income-tax state. I do not care about paying tax. You sound incredibly cheap.

5. If you have nothing else to type to me, good. I feel like I'm talking to an old man with hearing-aids going, "huh what? Back in my day".

I've run into a lot of people like you in the accounting world: over stated sense of self-worth due to being in a career for 5+ years, bangs their wife missionary only, and the last guy to offer to pay at happy hour.

[recedingjaw]

Your reading comprehension is a bit rusty as I addressed many of your barbs in previous posts, but here I go again.

1. Yes, CPA in public accounting.

2. As stated, one busy season as intern, two as full-time hire. Much older than 22.

3. As stated I work at a firm that pays hourly. Idgaf if you work 100 hours for salary at Big 4, tough **** you drank their Kool-Aid.

4. I work similar hours, in a high income-tax state. I do not care about paying tax. You sound incredibly cheap.

5. If you have nothing else to type to me, good. I feel like I'm talking to an old man with hearing-aids going, "huh what? Back in my day".

I've run into a lot of people like you in the accounting world: over stated sense of self-worth due to being in a career for 5+ years, bangs their wife missionary only, and the last guy to offer to pay at happy hour.

Hourly paying firms are quite rare, kindly excuse me for my ignorance.

I'll never understand people like you. You like giving up your hard earned money to the government, who inefficiently spends it on pork and bureaucracy? It doesn't all go to help your homies in the ghetto, you realize this? I'm all for morals, but I absolutely hate the fact that we are giving our money to our inefficient government. Sue me.

Never once did I overstate my self-worth, perhaps it is you who needs to brush up on your reading comprehension. Strong assumptions as well; I'm one of the nicest guys you'd meet in the real world. I donate to charities and all sorts of things. What I don't want to do is give my money to our government. I work hard to make a six figure salary only to give 40% of it away to an inefficient government that can't handle money. Get off your liberal high horse and look at what's really happening.

Look across the pond in Germany and Scandinavia. People are trying to come over here in groves. Even my family in Germany is getting tired of it. Socialism does not work.

[arman24]

It's about time someone made a thread lol @ that Hillary thread with its emojis in the title.

[tnel00]

Your reading comprehension is a bit rusty as I addressed many of your barbs in previous posts, but here I go again.

1. Yes, CPA in public accounting.

2. As stated, one busy season as intern, two as full-time hire. Much older than 22.

3. As stated I work at a firm that pays hourly. Idgaf if you work 100 hours for salary at Big 4, tough **** you drank their Kool-Aid.

4. I work similar hours, in a high income-tax state. I do not care about paying tax. You sound incredibly cheap.

5. If you have nothing else to type to me, good. I feel like I'm talking to an old man with hearing-aids going, "huh what? Back in my day".

I've run into a lot of people like you in the accounting world: over stated sense of self-worth due to being in a career for 5+ years, bangs their wife missionary only, and the last guy to offer to pay at happy hour.

I'd fire you.

If you're a CPA and you "don't care about paying tax" then it tells me you're not as intelligent as your certification implies.

[GhenghisPWN]

I'd fire you.

If you're a CPA and you "don't care about paying tax" then it tells me you're not as intelligent as your certification implies.

Don't tell me how I should think. I serve the clients, not myself. Know this - I am not the guy who pushes questionable edges in the grey area. The anti-government/anti-tax professionals are the ones who will. The AICPA and State Board of Accountancy put great emphasis on ethics not tax evasion or exposing clients to great legal and audit risk.

In closing, paying the legal minimum due through proper planning and not caring isn't too extreme.

Anyways, this discussion is becoming hostile and it is bothering me. I am retiring from it.

[tnel00]

Don't tell me how I should think. I serve the clients, not myself. Know this - I am not the guy who pushes questionable edges in the grey area. The anti-government/anti-tax professionals are the ones who will. The AICPA and State Board of Accountancy put great emphasis on ethics not tax evasion or exposing clients to great legal and audit risk.

In closing, paying the legal minimum due through proper planning and not caring isn't too extreme.

Anyways, this discussion is becoming hostile and it is bothering me. I am retiring from it.

You're a moron.

[visionz1234]

Living in Europe crew, Bernie sounds like a European politician. Stay away far away. If you are so blind you cant see what is happening across the pond because of policies just like Sanders youre a moron.

Yeah, he openly admires Euro politics.


No thx jeff

[moondoggey]

guys a clown dose not know what is best to fix the problems only how to get the hype train going

[arman24]

To all of you bitching and moaning about how unfairly the wealthy get taxed take a look at this:

1) Bank of America CEO Brian Moynihan
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2010? Zero. $1.9 billion tax refund.

Taxpayer Bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department? Over $1.3 trillion.

Amount of federal income taxes Bank of America would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $2.6 billion.

2) Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2008? Zero. $278 million tax refund.

Taxpayer Bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department? $824 billion.

Amount of federal income taxes Goldman Sachs would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $2.7 billion

3) JP Morgan Chase CEO James Dimon
Taxpayer Bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department? $416 billion.

Amount of federal income taxes JP Morgan Chase would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $4.9 billion.

4) General Electric CEO Jeffrey Immelt
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2010? Zero. $3.3 billion tax refund.

Taxpayer Bailout from the Federal Reserve? $16 billion.

Jobs Shipped Overseas? At least 25,000 since 2001.

5) Verizon CEO Lowell McAdam
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2010? Zero. $705 million tax refund.

American Jobs Cut in 2010? In 2010, Verizon announced 13,000 job cuts, the third highest corporate layoff total that year.

6) Boeing CEO James McNerney, Jr.
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2010? None. $124 million tax refund.

American Jobs Shipped overseas? Over 57,000.

Amount of Corporate Welfare? At least $58 billion.

7) Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer
Amount of federal income taxes Microsoft would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $19.4 billion.

8) Honeywell International CEO David Cote
Amount of federal income taxes paid from 2008-2010? Zero. $34 million tax refund.

9) Corning CEO Wendell Weeks
Amount of federal income taxes paid from 2008-2010? Zero. $4 million tax refund.

10) Time Warner CEO Glenn Britt
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2008? Zero. $74 million tax refund.

11). Merck CEO Kenneth Frazier
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2009? Zero. $55 million tax refund.

12) Deere & Company CEO Samuel Allen
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2009? Zero. $1 million tax refund.

13) Marsh & McLennan Companies CEO Brian Duperreault
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2010? Zero. $90 million refund.

14) Qualcomm CEO Paul Jacobs
Amount of federal income taxes Qualcomm would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $4.7 billion.

15) Tenneco CEO Gregg Sherill
Amount of federal income taxes Tenneco would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $269 million.

16) Express Scripts CEO George Paz
Amount of federal income taxes Express Scripts would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $20 million.

17) Caesars Entertainment CEO Gary Loveman
Amount of federal income taxes Caesars Entertainment would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $9 million.

18). R.R. Donnelly & Sons CEO Thomas Quinlan III
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2008? Zero. $49 million tax refund.

[nutsy54]

I'm sorry, are we bombing Iran right now or have we decided to let the Middle East stabilize the Middle East?

Derp. Just ignore the extended stay in Iraq (and now our return), adding 50,000 troops to Afghanistan (where we still have 10,000), bombing of Libya which overthrew its government, Obama's claim he could do the same in Syria, ongoing missile strikes into Pakistan.

Sure, everything is just swell, as long as you ignore 6 1/2 years of continued warmongering under Obama

[nutsy54]

Bernie Sanders: Same old routine. Hiding behind greed, envy, and class warfare, while using someone else's money to buy votes. He can't even come up with new material