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    Its crazy the amount of hate and anger people can feel for something which affects them in ABSOLUTELY no way. Let people do what they want and what makes them happy.

    And the poster who made the comment that he hurt his wife and kids. Do you think that he wanted this. Like everyone else, he struggled with it for YEARS afraid of responses to it the like of yours and tried to be someone he was not. If his wife and kids loved him ever, they will understand.
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    Originally Posted by TropicalSunset View Post
    Its crazy the amount of hate and anger people can feel for something which affects them in ABSOLUTELY no way. Let people do what they want and what makes them happy.
    most of the anger is directed towards society who treats a mental illness like it's normal and even encourages these individuals to indulge in their mental illness. You wouldn't tell an anorexic to starve herself or give someone with split personalities multiple driving licenses. Yet when a man decides he wants to be a woman from now on, he is given a "courage" award and a TV show or receives lots of praise. Now there's a show on TLC about a little boy who calls himself a girl's name.
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    Originally Posted by NeoSeminole View Post
    most of the anger is directed towards society who treats a mental illness like it's normal and even encourages these individuals to indulge in their mental illness. You wouldn't tell an anorexic to starve herself or give someone with split personalities multiple driving licenses. Yet when a man decides he wants to be a woman from now on, he is given a "courage" award and a TV show or receives lots of praise. Now there's a show on TLC about a little boy who calls himself a girl's name.
    Maybe because anorexia is incredibly dangerous to one's physical well being??
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    Originally Posted by NeoSeminole View Post
    most of the anger is directed towards society who treats a mental illness like it's normal and even encourages these individuals to indulge in their mental illness. You wouldn't tell an anorexic to starve herself or give someone with split personalities multiple driving licenses. Yet when a man decides he wants to be a woman from now on, he is given a "courage" award and a TV show or receives lots of praise. Now there's a show on TLC about a little boy who calls himself a girl's name.
    I hope you realize that lots of stuff you do on a daily basis (like, say, masturbation) were earlier percieved as a mental illness, right?
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    So i guess in the new USSA with Comrade Obama and his Marxist henchmen in power anytime someone says something yiu disagree with they should be banned? Typical liberal intolerance and hypocrisy.

    Diversity really only means liberal/socialist/progressive/marxist/communists of different colors, genders and sexual orientation.

    So you're ok with your son or daughter having to use the bathroom or shower with someone of the opposite sex?

    So your ok with taxpayers footing the bill for tranny prisoners who demand a sex change operation while millions of Americans die because they can't afford their own medical expenses?

    This is thr problem with today's society because they take what you say and twist it to fit their agenda. No where did I say a tranny should be discriminated against. What I said is we as a society should not be forced to accept things that go against out moral fiber. Such as allowing a girl to shower with boys because they "feel" like a boy. Or forcing taxpayers to foot the bill for a non medically necessary operation. Or force thr military to break it's discipline and and structure by forcing men to shower and sleep with women or forcing women to sleep and shower with men.

    That's what I'm against. I have nothing against gaya or trannies. Just don't force your lifestyle and choices on thr rest of us. Then it's no longer personal choice. If I'm at the gym and have to shower next to a women because she "feels" like a man that's bull****. If you think that's ok then you deserve to lose your country.

    The only thing I hate is being forced to pay for your sex change or being forced to participate in your lifestyle by force. GET IT RIGHT! DON'T PIT WORDS IN PEOPLE'S MOUTHS.

    I realize in the new softer feminized America facts don't matter only feelings and emotions.
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    Originally Posted by shokat01 View Post
    So i guess in the new USSA with Comrade Obama and his Marxist henchmen in power anytime someone says something yiu disagree with they should be banned? Typical liberal intolerance and hypocrisy.
    I bet you don't quite get what 'marxism' actually means, that's why you keep on using it as a label for ultimate evil.

    Originally Posted by shokat01 View Post
    Diversity really only means liberal/socialist/progressive/marxist/communists of different colors, genders and sexual orientation.
    yeah, in USSR the same was said about western imperialism.

    Originally Posted by shokat01 View Post
    So you're ok with your son or daughter having to use the bathroom or shower with someone of the opposite sex?
    if I had a son, I guess he'd be excited to share the bathroom with some girls.

    Originally Posted by shokat01 View Post
    So your ok with taxpayers footing the bill for tranny prisoners who demand a sex change operation while millions of Americans die because they can't afford their own medical expenses?
    no, I'm not ok with any healthcare system based on profit extraction and depriving the vast majority of population of their basic human rights
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    Originally Posted by DanielEver View Post
    I hope you realize that lots of stuff you do on a daily basis (like, say, masturbation) were earlier percieved as a mental illness, right?
    This moral relatavism is so annoying and it's so funny how people have such selective attention.

    The reason people are pissed is because they are forcing us to accept their lifestyle when the make taxpayers pay to cut your penis off. We get pissed off when you force my kids to shower and use the bathroom with thr opposite sex.

    DAMN PEOPLE GET THE FACTS STRAIGHT.

    THIS IS THE SAME DAMN FALSE ARGUMENT THAT WAS USED ANYTIME SOMEONE DISCREET WITH COMRADE OBAMA. THAT IT'S BECAUSE HE'S BLACK.

    I'll just say this. Of this keeps up America is going to have a civil war on its hands. And that is what Obama and his Marxists wants. That's why the government media complex is pushing his racism into riots, his gay agenda as if it's more important than anything else, why they let 50 million illegals in and continue to let them in because they want to destroy this country and turn into a 3rd world **** hole disguised as Marxist/Socialist Utopia.

    That's why they want to take all the guns becsuse they don't want the population armed once the country finally falls apart.

    They know as Saul Alinsky and all of Obamas commie mentors taught him that a divided country cannot stand.

    I bet that probably more than 70% of
    AmeRicans under 30 don't even know anything about America's constitution or history other than that America is evil and the root of all the world's evils. Because that's what they've been brainwashed.

    Now go tune into " I am Cait " tonight. I think a new episode is on.
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    And your from Russia where being gay is illegal. How ironic.
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    Originally Posted by shokat01 View Post
    So i guess in the new USSA with Comrade Obama and his Marxist henchmen in power anytime someone says something yiu disagree with they should be banned? Typical liberal intolerance and hypocrisy.

    Diversity really only means liberal/socialist/progressive/marxist/communists of different colors, genders and sexual orientation.

    So you're ok with your son or daughter having to use the bathroom or shower with someone of the opposite sex?

    So your ok with taxpayers footing the bill for tranny prisoners who demand a sex change operation while millions of Americans die because they can't afford their own medical expenses?

    This is thr problem with today's society because they take what you say and twist it to fit their agenda. No where did I say a tranny should be discriminated against. What I said is we as a society should not be forced to accept things that go against out moral fiber. Such as allowing a girl to shower with boys because they "feel" like a boy. Or forcing taxpayers to foot the bill for a non medically necessary operation. Or force thr military to break it's discipline and and structure by forcing men to shower and sleep with women or forcing women to sleep and shower with men.

    That's what I'm against. I have nothing against gaya or trannies. Just don't force your lifestyle and choices on thr rest of us. Then it's no longer personal choice. If I'm at the gym and have to shower next to a women because she "feels" like a man that's bull****. If you think that's ok then you deserve to lose your country.

    The only thing I hate is being forced to pay for your sex change or being forced to participate in your lifestyle by force. GET IT RIGHT! DON'T PIT WORDS IN PEOPLE'S MOUTHS.

    I realize in the new softer feminized America facts don't matter only feelings and emotions.
    How bout the fact that all of the things you've whined about are less than 1% of the tax burden.
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    Maybe because anorexia is incredibly dangerous to one's physical well being??
    exactly my point. You are doing them a disservice by encouraging them to indulge in their mental illness instead of getting help
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    Originally Posted by DanielEver View Post
    I hope you realize that lots of stuff you do on a daily basis (like, say, masturbation) were earlier percieved as a mental illness, right?
    proof?
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    proof?
    In before a pic of Neo's stack of Sergio Oliva and Dorian Yates articles looking like a painters radio.
    A pattern in the chaos.
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    exactly my point. You are doing them a disservice by encouraging them to indulge in their mental illness instead of getting help
    Thing is, from what i read, help doesn't work for them. While anorexics respond to medication, transsexuals don't, which points to them not being sick. The most effective treatment known to date for this condition (it is not considered an illness anymore, according to the "Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders") is gender transition.

    This is what i have read. I am an ignorant in anything related to medicine.
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    Originally Posted by Unbiasedfan View Post
    Thing is, from what i read, help doesn't work for them. While anorexics respond to medication, transsexuals don't, which points to them not being sick. The most effective treatment known to date for this condition (it is not considered an illness anymore, according to the "Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders") is gender transition.

    This is what i have read. I am an ignorant in anything related to medicine.
    so what about ****philes? You cannot change their sexual preference. Does that mean they are not mentally ill then? Since there is no cure, does that mean we should encourage them to act on their mental illness? Obviously adults having sex with minors is out of the question. What about sex dolls that resemble children? Does that make it ok as long as "it's not hurting anyone?"
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    Originally Posted by shokat01 View Post
    And your from Russia where being gay is illegal.
    it's not

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    proof?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor...ealth_concerns

    my google works exactly as yours, don't be lazy

    Originally Posted by NeoSeminole View Post
    so what about ****philes? You cannot change their sexual preference. Does that mean they are not mentally ill then?
    depends on what society considers a normal behaviour, during history in a number of highly developed civilizations having sex with minors was considered ok (even benificial to kids themselfs).


    Originally Posted by NeoSeminole View Post
    What about sex dolls that resemble children? Does that make it ok as long as "it's not hurting anyone?"
    why not? I honestly don't see any problem in someone sitting at home watching child porn, having fun with dolls or doing whatever he or she wants to unless that deprives others of their basic rights and guarantees.
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    Well Daniel, watching child porn is supporting the child sex exploitation, so it is DEFINITELY wrong and is VERY illegal, as it should be.
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    Originally Posted by bigdeadlift View Post
    if they are not hurting anyone else by doing do, why not? it's his body. why not let him do what he wants with it?
    You kinda just sidestepped Neo's point.

    If someone legitimately needs help and has a mental disorder (I'm not saying for sure that it is one cus that's not my field of expertise, but suppose it is for now), then wouldn't you want to get them help?
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    You guys are missing the whole point, in fact the whole country is missing the whole point. It's **** like this is why the Islamist Terrorists want to put a Nuclear bomb in New York City. If America doesn't wake up soon there will be no America left.

    The issue is not about a tranny being able to wear a dress and call them self a chick. It has to do with the Communist/Marxist/Progressive/Democrats who use these wedge issues to further their social engineering agenda. America is becoming effiminized and emasculated essentially.

    As Josef Goebbles, Adolf Hitlers PR man that if you repeat something over and over enough it becomes the truth. Essentially what you're having is a an idea that most people find revolting shoved down our throats over and over and we're basically told in no uncertain terms that we're going to like it and if we have a problem with it then there is something wrong with us.

    My problem is when California passes a law FORCING schools to allow boys who feel like girls to use the girls bathrooms, and girls who feel like boys to use the boys bathrooms. Now if that's not some sick ass **** then you're a sick person yourself. So what's next now is to allow Tranny soldiers to serve openly and freely in the military. So essentially you'll have a barracks full of men with a tranny chick-dude living amongst them because she-he feels like a dude. If that's not some sick as **** then you have some issues. What's next, a tranny Navy seal???? Then all the Communist Hollywood Movie producers can make action movies showcasing tranny action heros and how magnificant they are. We will have a remake of the Arnold Scwarzenegger movie Commando, except this time Arnold will come out as a tranny and play the roll as Arnella.

    The issue is not about trannys being able to be trannys. No one is saying a tranny should not be allowed to buy a car, eat a restaurant, rent an apt. But when the Gay Mafia start forcing their radical agenda on all the rest of us it doesn't mean we have to accept their values.

    I'm not anti-gay, I just don't give a **** about what you do in the bedroom. I'm sick and tired of a 2% of the population, hell even if it's 15%, I'm tired of the whole world bending over backwards to make it as if everyones damn life revolves around being ****ing gay. As if that has to be the focus of learning in school, the focus of movies, tv shows, commercials, events, etc. Gay, gay, gay, gay, gay, tranny, tranny, tranny, tranny. America has fallen so far down and lost our moral compass. We have a population that is so dumb they vote an outright Communist into the office of the President. Twice! lol Here's a guy who is so arrogant and narcissisitic that he flies over to Kenya and lectures them on gay rights.

    Where the gay lobby loses me is when they try to force their agenda down my throat.

    In the state of CA, the California taxpayer has to foot the $100,000.00 medical bill to do sex change surgery on Prison inmates. Now it's my ****ing problem ass hole. If you want to pay to cut your ****ing dick off go do it. But don't make me and other taxpayers pay for the right to mutilate your body.

    In San Francisco, CA the City of San Francisco pays for their firefighters and police officers to have sex change operations.

    A State of Calfornia employee used her medical benefits to pay for her gay lesbian lovers sex change operation. All at the expense of the taxpayer.
    Yet as a kid I couldn't get expensive acne medication covered because it was considered non-medically necessary and cosmetic so we had to pay cash.

    There are people waiting for liver transplants, and people dying of all kinds of diseases, with no health insurance, yet we're forcing the taxpayers to fund sex change operations that are nothing more than cosmetic mutilation.

    I hope you all are ready for when the Islamic State reaches America. This is why they want to kill us. And honestly I think America has become too much of a wussified country to defend it self. Just look at the most current tv shows and all you see are men portrayed as soft, effiminate, supplicative men who are shown as bumbling idiots or bone heads if not outright pansies.
    Sounds like someone is mad they didn't get a free sex change...
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    Originally Posted by NeoSeminole View Post
    so what about ****philes? You cannot change their sexual preference. Does that mean they are not mentally ill then? Since there is no cure, does that mean we should encourage them to act on their mental illness? Obviously adults having sex with minors is out of the question. What about sex dolls that resemble children? Does that make it ok as long as "it's not hurting anyone?"
    Children can't consent and aren't sexually developed. Same with animals, handicapped people, women who don't consent or other beings that are at a disadvantage. It's called rape. People tend to put all sex acts on the same level just to have some sort of argument, but it's not like that.

    Btw, oral sex for some extremists, especially religious nuts, is unnatural, so have sex only in the missionary position and only to conceive. How is that?
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    Originally Posted by TropicalSunset View Post
    Well Daniel, watching child porn is supporting the child sex exploitation, so it is DEFINITELY wrong and is VERY illegal, as it should be.
    This. Fuk all the dolls you want, but "consuming" child porn? cmon
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    Originally Posted by TropicalSunset View Post
    Well Daniel, watching child porn is supporting the child sex exploitation, so it is DEFINITELY wrong and is VERY illegal, as it should be.
    unless you pay for it isn't any kind of support and it doesn't directly hurt anyone.

    also we have to agree that the borders of 'child porn' are very unclear, since people to tend call any sort of porn with girls under 18 (or under 17, or under 16) ****phile stuff which techincally isn't correct 'cause with better nutritioan and healthcare over the last century people tend to hit puberty at younger age and being attracted to someone who, let's say, 15 but is fully sexually developed isn't a mental illness in terms of carrying on with reproducing your kind.
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    Originally Posted by NeoSeminole View Post
    so what about ****philes? You cannot change their sexual preference. Does that mean they are not mentally ill then? Since there is no cure, does that mean we should encourage them to act on their mental illness? Obviously adults having sex with minors is out of the question. What about sex dolls that resemble children? Does that make it ok as long as "it's not hurting anyone?"
    Well if you've read anything by Kinsey then paedophilia is an acceptable expression of a persons sexuality and should be allowed, now old Kinsey was also the grand pappy of the tranny movement with his mate Dr Money, also a supporter of paedophilia. Dr Money experimented on a young effeminate gay male and turned him female, and now we have the sex change industry. It's also important to note in the US at least all the major university hospitals like Johns Hopkins no longer perform reassignment surgery, it's now all performed by private for profit clinics.
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    Originally Posted by BartPimpson View Post
    So they're...Marie Rows now? Doesn't have the same punch.
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    This makes no sense. We didn't call them "Ray" rows so why would you pick the middle name?

    They're still Kroc rows. Now more than ever since Kroc is legal not nick.

    Same with Kroc Chins.

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    Originally Posted by 2bars View Post
    Matthew Raymond Kroczaleski
    Janae Marie Kroc

    This makes no sense. We didn't call them "Ray" rows so why would you pick the middle name?

    They're still Kroc rows. Now more than ever since Kroc is legal not nick.

    Same with Kroc Chins.

    Is that a real thing? seemed like those guys were taking the piss.
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    Originally Posted by WolfBeast View Post
    Matt goes to my gym, he is a really nice guy.
    Nothing is wrong with what he is doing, you need to get that out of your head, you dont personally know his life, nor his struggles.

    "There has obviously been a great deal of gossip, rumors and questions about me the past few days. To put them to rest: yes, I am transgender/gender fluid.
    First, I would like to be clear that I had planned to wait until my sons were out of high school before I became openly public about this. As that no longer is an option, I will address it now.
    I have been very open about this for many years among my family, close friends, and in the powerlifting community, but I realize for many of you this has been a huge shock. This is something that I have been dealing with my entire life and has been extremely difficult for me. In fact, it even drove me to consider suicide at one point.
    I never wanted nor asked for this, and fought this as hard as I could for a very long time. I have finally reached a point where I am comfortable with and proud of whom I am, even if a lot of people don’t understand.
    I have received an unimaginable amount of support and love in the last twenty four hours from family, friends, fans, and strangers alike and I want to thank every single one of you that have reached out to me. It honestly means more to me that I can possibly express with the written word."

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    so everyone that knows him already knew. meh. good for him tho. i dont see the big deal.
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    This made me sick to my ****ing stomach when I found this out. ****ing sickening, what a sin. Matt Kroc was one of my favorites, meet him on several occasions, purchased one of his shirts..dvd..and had a poster of him in my weightroom. I looked up to him. not anymore. shirt, dvd got thrown in the ****ing trash,and poster got ripped off the wall and thrown in the trash. Cant believe he would pull this ****. **** him with the rest of the transgenders and ***gots in the world
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    Originally Posted by POPPAPUMP440 View Post
    This made me sick to my ****ing stomach when I found this out. ****ing sickening, what a sin. Matt Kroc was one of my favorites, meet him on several occasions, purchased one of his shirts..dvd..and had a poster of him in my weightroom. I looked up to him. not anymore. shirt, dvd got thrown in the ****ing trash,and poster got ripped off the wall and thrown in the trash. Cant believe he would pull this ****. **** him with the rest of the transgenders and ***gots in the world
    This made me sick to my ****ing stomach.
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