When will this STEM fad end?

[BangBrahs]

Is it just a misc thing? (srs)

To clarify, I am not saying that STEM is not useful, and obviously they are some of the best majors to get. However, there is a mentality now that if you are non-STEM that you somehow will be unemployed or 'flipping burgers' as miscers like to put it.

[Aperture]

[AlacrityH]

I'd rather the Gender Studies fad ended

[BangBrahs]

I'm serious. People on here make claims that if you aren't a STEM major you have no future. When will this mentality end? Hell, a few years ago, the misc. hated on marketing degrees, now I am hearing that these hold some value again.

[1crave]

which fad ?

when exactly did gender studies or philosophy give you a paying job ? lol.

[BangBrahs]

which fad ?

when exactly did gender studies or philosophy give you a paying job ? lol.

So ALL humanities graduates are unemployed? NONE of them get paid?

[GodlikeDra]

its a given you can have a future with careers other than stem but eng does have the lowest unemployment and decent pay

[Rocalvic]

So ALL humanities graduates are unemployed? NONE of them get paid?

It's not that, the chances of getting hired after doing some arts degree is significantly lower than after doing a STEM degree.

[SlyOdysseus]

which fad ?

when exactly did gender studies or philosophy give you a paying job ? lol.

What if I told you

You can do a combined major of Mathematics and Philosophy?

[shortythree]

So ALL humanities graduates are unemployed? NONE of them get paid?

LARGE percentages of them are unemployed and HARDLY any of them get paid

[BangBrahs]

LARGE percentages of them are unemployed and HARDLY any of them get paid

I am a student and I already have a job. I make a little more than min. wage. I am a non-STEM major. So when I graduate I will somehow lose my job?

[asianbruh]

Logically, it ends when technological advancement comes to a standstill and we turn into robots who need art in our lives.
beep boop *Mozart chords* hnnnnnnng

[BangBrahs]

It's not that, the chances of getting hired after doing some arts degree is significantly lower than after doing a STEM degree.

I do not disagree; you can easily find the statistics online, but to say that non-STEM majors cannot find a job is absurd to me.

[hairlineofpeace]

OP you mad the STEM masterraces run the companies? Ever heard of a CEO who majored in gender studies or literature?

[Woofwolf]

I'm serious. People on here make claims that if you aren't a STEM major you have no future. When will this mentality end? Hell, a few years ago, the misc. hated on marketing degrees, now I am hearing that these hold some value again.

STEM (particularly the Technology field) hasn't even put its foot out of the door yet. It definitely is not going draw a veil over it anytime soon.

No STEM equates to no progress in any aspect of society. Western world is in sticky situation and have their priorities wrong. UK brahs gov are more concerned about the gender of the face of £10 note.

[BangBrahs]

OP you mad the STEM masterraces run the companies? Ever heard of a CEO who majored in gender studies or literature?

There are more CEO's with humanities degrees than you think. Not everyone wants to run a company. Believe it or not, there are some people in this world that don't care about money and prefer to live fulfilling lives.

[krazy33]

OP you mad the STEM masterraces run the companies? Ever heard of a CEO who majored in gender studies or literature?

You mad they WORK for the companies; they dont run them

Thats all stem is; ensuring what you do is applicable, essentially assuring yourself of 9-5 rat race

Business majors and start up ceo's run companies

[joshewwah]

The STEM fad will end when society no longer needs robots




























but we do

[18ToLife]

STEM degrees are a easy way into making 50k+

other chit pays less and is harder to get a job

if you are somehow a genius, or have connections in a non stem major (daddy owns a business etc) you can make it

[ditsy911]

Only the people who are the very best are gonna go anywhere or make real money with STEM. Probably all of the people you read bragging about being a STEM major on the internet won't end up being worth much in their field.

-Coming from a STEM LOL major

[Mirror15]

Is it just a misc thing? (srs)

To clarify, I am not saying that STEM is not useful, and obviously they are some of the best majors to get. However, there is a mentality now that if you are non-STEM that you somehow will be unemployed or 'flipping burgers' as miscers like to put it.

never. because mathematics is not a fad. from now on, businesses need people who understand mathematics.
even top banks prefer a high gpa engineering graduate over business/ finance grads. they send fresh hires to new york for 2 months and teach them all the essentials; they pick up the rest on the job.

[WrathOfPecan]

Its because STEM majors are the ONLY ones which have a somewhat decent chance of making a return on the investment (i.e., no income for 4 years, student debt), but someone might be able to land pay good enough make up for it later.

All other university degrees are a guaranteed way to waste 4 years of life and come out $100k+ poorer in the end. A women's studies or philosophy or art history degree holder will make LESS money working as a cashier at Whole Foods at the age of 22 than a person who simply graduated HS, because the latter person will have 3-5 full time years job experience already by the time they're 22.

[asianbruh]

There are more CEO's with humanities degrees than you think. Not everyone wants to run a company. Believe it or not, there are some people in this world that don't care about money and prefer to live fulfilling lives.

Yes, but the Misc doesn't tend to give a fuk about self happiness you see

[BangBrahs]

STEM degrees are a easy way into making 50k+

other chit pays less and is harder to get a job

if you are somehow a genius, or have connections in a non stem major (daddy owns a business etc) you can make it

Or you could always get internships, gain skills in many areas, volunteer, etc. to improve your resume. What do you mean by "ch1t" pay?

[hairlineofpeace]

You mad they WORK for the companies; they dont run them

Thats all stem is; ensuring what you do is applicable, essentially assuring yourself of 9-5 rat race

Business majors and start up ceo's run companies

lol nope, that's not how it works. I can think of a few companies in the banking world that are run by physicists or engineers, a lot of times with PhD's as well. And I'm not even into banking or finances lol. They hire the right people for the right job (that's where your business majors come in), but they have the analytical insight that non-STEM people simply do not have: seeing the entire picture. Sure, there are non-STEM CEO's, but I can guarantee you that they would have had great success in STEM as well.

[krazy33]

lol nope, that's not how it works. I can think of a few companies in the banking world that are run by physicists or engineers, a lot of times with PhD's as well. And I'm not even into banking or finances lol. They hire the right people for the right job (that's where your business majors come in), but they have the analytical insight that non-STEM people simply do not have: seeing the entire picture. Sure, there are non-STEM CEO's, but I can guarantee you that they would have had great success in STEM as well.

The only way i see this being applicable is if were talking about the engineering market; like oil companies or something. That is not the vast majority of businesses

I would reckon more ceo's fall under the business - finance, economics, accounting, etc. - umbrella than the engineer umbrella

[Jubungee]

What's with the insecurities? So you majored in some BS field, use minimum wage as your baseline for pay, and you're here to convince everyone that you're worthy or some chit. The top 5% of any field will always make it. When comparing the 50-95% of both STEM and non-STEM graduates, the STEM grads are more likely to 1. Be employed, 2. Earn a higher salary, 3. Not wish they majored in something else. Find me an electrical engineer working at Starbucks.

[BangBrahs]

Its because STEM majors are the ONLY ones which have a somewhat decent chance of making a return on the investment (i.e., no income for 4 years, student debt), but someone might be able to land pay good enough make up for it later.

All other university degrees are a guaranteed way to waste 4 years of life and come out $100k+ poorer in the end. A women's studies or philosophy or art history degree holder will make LESS money working as a cashier at Whole Foods at the age of 22 than a person who simply graduated HS, because the latter person will have 3-5 full time years job experience already by the time they're 22.

If they work are Whole Foods as a cashier, then they are not job hunting very well. All these STEMmers want to just graduate and immediately get a job so that they can feel comfortable being part of the rat race.

[GodlikeDra]

Only the people who are the very best are gonna go anywhere or make real money with STEM. Probably all of the people you read bragging about being a STEM major on the internet won't end up being worth much in their field.

-Coming from a STEM LOL major

its true the best ppl will start with 70k jobs, but I suck at engineering and still about to get the 60k average salary for a graduate. It's doable for anyone willing to put in work

down the road its just all about the experience. If they don't give me raises, I expect to be able to bunnyhop between jobs to get them myself. All the way to 100k/year in 10+ years

[IntredastMcGee]

LMAO Computer Science > STEM Any Day Serious