Ask a 23 year old with heart failure anything

[confusedbrah10]

5 scoops a day crew
am i gonna make it?

[StrongPost]

i'm sorry op

i wish u the best man..

[Suitandti3]

Heart disease is an illness which can be prevented and treated on a whole foods plant based diet. Balls in your court op hope you make some good decisions about what you eat (srs)

[Gorillajewshead]

This reminds me of the 2nd time i snorted *******, my chest started hurting and my heart started beating like crazy i was on the floor at my buddies house for about 15 minutes rolling around in pain, kinda felt like heartburn as well. I never went to the hospital but i never touched a drug ever again..

[Gt3x24x7]

have no fear of what the end result is my friend, the suffering and pain will all be over one day.

endure it and enjoy the time you have alive in your body, for i shall see you again when we both go back to the maker

hope all is well for you

[TylerDerpden]

Heart disease is an illness which can be prevented and treated on a whole foods plant based diet. Balls in your court op hope you make some good decisions about what you eat (srs)

Do you have any idea what you're talking about?(srs question). Cause it doesn't seem to me like OP has the type of heart disease (the kind that involves blocked arteries from atherosclerosis) that would benefit from a plant based diet. Rather his heart disease is due to heart muscle damage that occurred from coronary artery spasms while he was on stimulants.

And I have to wonder (and this is ENTIRELY JUST SPECULATION THAT I PULLED OUT OF MY BUM BUM) if a low protein diet like a vegan diet might not actually be detrimental to his heart muscles ability to regenerate/heal itself.

[Veble]

OP is this what your doctor told you to do, or did you decide to do this on your own? I ask because my understanding (AND I'M NOT A DOCTOR JUST A LAY PERSON SO THERE'S A VERY GOOD CHANCE i'M WRONG) is that this vegan diet (assuming it even works and the data isn't being misrepresented) is supposed to reverse atherosclerosis. But it doesn't seem to me like atherosclerosis is your problem. Rather damage to the heart muscle from ischemia/reperfusion injury (due to coronary artery spasms from the stimulants) is your problem. Again, I'm just a lay person and I really don't have that good of an idea of what I'm talking about, so plz keep that in mind.

I basically decided on my own but I am not on this diet anymore as I was losing far too much weight, and I think your right, I don't think a vegan diet would have any benefit to me seeing as I did not damage my heart through years of bad diet causing blockage in arteries, my problem came from some spasm of an artery muscle or something from the stimulants which caused instant damge to whatever area was affected. I'm lean enough as it is but maybe excercise and HIIT cardio may benefit me I dunno maybe this will help my heart grow stronger, when I wake up in the morning now I now 200 jumping jacks and bring my dog for a walk, also like to go for a light run in the afternoon, I just started doing this a few days ago after basically no excercise for a month just sitting around my house, I know your no doctor nor am I but do you think excercise could possibly strengthen my heart again and improve circulation?

[sgttom]

Man that sucks. Is this a life long thing or will you get better?

[Ragana]

Mods- please don't close this thread due to drug references. This kid might save lives..

Honestly, this should be a wake-up call for some of you. I go to Vegas once a year where I partake in a snowstorm or two and I feel like death... I can't even imagine how you can condition yourself to do this every couple of weekends.

[officekid87]

OP I'm not a doctor or a cardiologist, but I would be willing to wager you had a pre-existing condition that was exacerbated by those stimulants. Some type of genetic imbalance where your heart was not running at 100%.
OR you're not being totally upfront about the amount of stimulants and varieties you were using.

Either way, my thoughts are with you. You're gonna make it brah. HF can be controlled and new medications are being produced every year.

[Veble]

Man that sucks. Is this a life long thing or will you get better?

I think I'm more or less stuck with this for life, heart damage can never fully be repaired from what I know, I only hope I can improve my situation through excercise and good lifestyle but for the moment since I had this condition things have only got worse unfortunetly.

Maybe I just need more time to see improvement..maybe I won't see any at all, I really am in the dark about what my future holds

[y0jimbo]

haha see u in hell *******
































not srs, hope u get better bro :-)

[dash_riprock]

This thread is retarded.... Brb weed gave me anxiety attacks, brb pre workout gave me anxiety attacks, brb Molly gave me anxiety attacks.... Brb stims gave me a heart attack.

Plenty of people have taken 100x the drugs of op and been fine, this is a pre existing condition that surfaced because drugs broke the camels back, it would've come about eventually anyways.

Anxiety is fear of fear, break the cycle / accept that your thoughts are bluffing you and the anxiety will diminish.

Sorry for your condition op, but I wouldn't blame it on the Stims / making one bad decision, it likely could've come out when at the gym too.

[NumberOneStunna]

I use to have bad anxiety, shortness of breath and chest pain when I took adhd stimulant meds. What was your dosage opie?

[TylerDerpden]

This thread is retarded.... Brb weed gave me anxiety attacks, brb pre workout gave me anxiety attacks, brb Molly gave me anxiety attacks.... Brb stims gave me a heart attack.

Plenty of people have taken 100x the drugs of op and been fine, this is a pre existing condition that surfaced because drugs broke the camels back, it would've come about eventually anyways.

Anxiety is fear of fear, break the cycle / accept that your thoughts are bluffing you and the anxiety will diminish.

Sorry for your condition op, but I wouldn't blame it on the Stims / making one bad decision, it likely could've come out when at the gym too.

Strong logic bro (sarcasm). You're one of those people that thinks you're waaayyyyy smarter than you are, aren't you?

[Doomster23]

lol wtf 2...maybe I should get checked.

I've done nights with 1g MDMA, countless 2-3 day straight meth binges, taken 1000mg of ******** in 24 hour time span

What a cool cat you are.

[TylerDerpden]

I basically decided on my own but I am not on this diet anymore as I was losing far too much weight, and I think your right, I don't think a vegan diet would have any benefit to me seeing as I did not damage my heart through years of bad diet causing blockage in arteries, my problem came from some spasm of an artery muscle or something from the stimulants which caused instant damge to whatever area was affected. I'm lean enough as it is but maybe excercise and HIIT cardio may benefit me I dunno maybe this will help my heart grow stronger, when I wake up in the morning now I now 200 jumping jacks and bring my dog for a walk, also like to go for a light run in the afternoon, I just started doing this a few days ago after basically no excercise for a month just sitting around my house, I know your no doctor nor am I but do you think excercise could possibly strengthen my heart again and improve circulation?

I honestly have no idea about the exercise. If I were you I'd start doing some reading, on the topic of recovering from heart failure, on a daily basis. You'll accumulate a good bit of knowledge before you know it. And you may wan't to look into supplements that can help with "energy production" like CoQ10 (which I see you're already taking), but there are others as well. Just make sure that there aren't any dangers of taking them due to other conditions that might arise (for instance, as a completely made up example just to illustrate my point, sub-optimal kidney function as a side effect of your HF) from having HF. And make sure they don't negatively interact with any of the meds you're taking.

And as a side note, I believe there are two different forms of CoQ10 and one is considered more effective (but I don't know which one off the top of my head), so you might want to look into that.

[Bettabez]

This thread is retarded.... Brb weed gave me anxiety attacks, brb pre workout gave me anxiety attacks, brb Molly gave me anxiety attacks.... Brb stims gave me a heart attack.

Plenty of people have taken 100x the drugs of op and been fine, this is a pre existing condition that surfaced because drugs broke the camels back, it would've come about eventually anyways.

Anxiety is fear of fear, break the cycle / accept that your thoughts are bluffing you and the anxiety will diminish.

Sorry for your condition op, but I wouldn't blame it on the Stims / making one bad decision, it likely could've come out when at the gym too.

A preexisting condition isn't a necessary precursor to heart failure. Nice try with the Bill Nye the Science Guy post though.

[Canadian_Lifter]

What dose of addy? Srs
Like how much per day

Have they done a viability scan or MIBI?

Just spent a month with heart failure team treating patients


So op - your heat ef is 10-15% (NYHA class 3) Is it ischemic or non ischemic?

I doubt your a transplant candidate being that it's from drugs. You consider pacemaker (if there's any arrhythmias) or LVAD? What meds you on?

[Benny_Lava]

lol wtf 2...maybe I should get checked.

I've done nights with 1g MDMA, countless 2-3 day straight meth binges, taken 1000mg of ******** in 24 hour time span

lol wtf is wrong with people. can't imagine the type of trash you people must hang out with and/or be in order to even get caught up in **** like this.



anyway sorry to hear OP, that ****ing sucks. GL hope you get it under control to the point you can enjoy life. we all make mistakes, unfortunately some people don't get away with it. others get away scot-free.

[xavengedx23]

OP is going to make it!!

[BeastlyChange]

Thanks OP, you further pushed me to stop drinking coffee / PWO's. Will only be getting caffeine from green tea, which is small amounts anyways.

tfw when you have to take 2-3 scoops of PWO to even feel anything.. brb 500mg of caffeine later. **** can't be healthy.

[DesiredUser]

Op, y dont u ask ur md if u can become a serious athlete? Maybe by overcompensating u can get to normal baseline one day. I am not a Dr, but it sounds like it might be logical. Best ask him or her, or a cardiologist. Hope all goes well for u op. Do evthg u can to get back on top!

[DesiredUser]

Thanks OP, you further pushed me to stop drinking coffee / PWO's. Will only be getting caffeine from green tea, which is small amounts anyways.

tfw when you have to take 2-3 scoops of PWO to even feel anything.. brb 500mg of caffeine later. **** can't be healthy.

I would bet that long term moderate to hvy caffeine use prematurely ages u

[Zerafian]

Always use the glass half full prespective for your life man, your going to have a lot of down days youll need to fight through, especially since your so young. Your new routine will become habit and youll soon not think anything of it. Stay positive man.




fukin idiots in here curious about your dosing of drugs and pills. How about just not do it you *******s.

[TylerDerpden]

Thanks OP, you further pushed me to stop drinking coffee

Honestly man I don't think anyone's having heart attacks from coffee. I mean, don't go full retard with it because I do believe there are some case reports of people having heart attacks from consuming large amounts of energy drinks (mostly mixed with alcohol, I think) so apparently it is possible to end up with problems from too much caffeine. But most of America consumes coffee daily...if it was that dangerous I think we'd know about it by now...

[Angra_Mainyu]

thread just reminded of four lokos, used to to drink 2 of these when I was 17 and be up all night running around almost blackout durnk

[iBulk]

I can attest to sodium being a bitch. My body retains sodium for no apparent reason so I have LOTS of kidney stones. I was trying to figure out which foods i need to particularly avoid... I thought chipotle was healthy, certainly healthier than other fast food. A normal chicken wrap at Chipotle is like 2700mg of sodium. My daily limit is 2,000mg. fuuuu

[xavengedx23]

I can attest to sodium being a bitch. My body retains sodium for no apparent reason so I have LOTS of kidney stones. I was trying to figure out which foods i need to particularly avoid... I thought chipotle was healthy, certainly healthier than other fast food. A normal chicken wrap at Chipotle is like 2700mg of sodium. My daily limit is 2,000mg. fuuuu

For no apparent reason is wrong. There is obviously a reason.

[Benny_Lava]

For no apparent reason is wrong. There is obviously a reason.

some people are sensitive to sodium.

"The big debate in the medical community with sodium is that research suggests that only about 1/3 of the population is sodium sensitive to the point where it is going to make a clinically significant difference in your blood pressure. In addition, no accurate test exists to knowing whether someone is sodium sensitive or not."


sensitive as fuk to sodium crew. so is my dad and brother.


sucks.