Alternate Source for Hydrolyzed Whey Protein?

[Chuwey]

I make my own post-workout shakes, so I look for pure hydrolyzed whey.

I have been using true nutrtion .com

But the 1 lb bags I used to buy for $11.89 (in 2013) went to $13.49 (in 2014) and are now $15.79 each. These are discount prices based on minimum 16 lb orders. And no sweeteners or flavors added, which admittedly is my preference but would add to the price.

The difference in price over time isn't much per pound, but it does add up when buying more than one.

I've been satisfied with the product, but have started to wonder if any of you use an alternative, less expensive source for an equivalent?

Much appreciated.

[faipdeooiad]

what benefits are you getting from, or think you're getting from, hydrolysed whey?

buy a whey concentrate or a blend. if you're lactose intolerant, get a whey isolate or a non-dairy protein source.

i guarantee you'll notice no difference in recovery.

[The Solution]

Buy a generic whey/blend thats all you need to help reach protein intake in the 24 hour period you can not get from whole food
Buying a straight WPH will not offer recovery benefits besides more money spent to help reach your protein intake. There will be food overlap from previous meals or an intra-workout BCAA beverage so the need for speed from a WPH is far overlooked and not necessary. At the end of the day meeting your protein intake is what matters most. I would only suggest something like a WPI/WPH if you are 100% Lactose intolerant.

[Chuwey]

Thanks both for your replies. I am not lactose intolerant. I work out first thing in the morning on an empty stomach. I admit I have not tried blends, but I have tried post-workout concentrate. When I've done so, my muscles scream for half the day (admittedly not scientific, and not entirely sure what it means, but it seemed to support the need for a fast-acting protein). I mix with Dextrose. @The Solution, you mention "intra-workout BCAA beverage," and again, admittedly I have not tried that, although occasionally I take half my shake right before workout when I'm dieting, and it seems to help.

A lot of what both of you are saying though makes me think that the whole hydrolyzed thing has been debunked, or partially so. Maybe I need to be brought up to speed on current research and recommendations. Are there any studies, or even just online articles, you could direct me to?

Again, thank you both. Looks like I have to re-evaluate the need for Hydrolyzed in the first place. Any help in that regard is greatly appreciated.

[The Solution]

Thanks both for your replies. I am not lactose intolerant. I work out first thing in the morning on an empty stomach. I admit I have not tried blends, but I have tried post-workout concentrate. When I've done so, my muscles scream for half the day (admittedly not scientific, and not entirely sure what it means, but it seemed to support the need for a fast-acting protein). I mix with Dextrose. @The Solution, you mention "intra-workout BCAA beverage," and again, admittedly I have not tried that, although occasionally I take half my shake right before workout when I'm dieting, and it seems to help.

A lot of what both of you are saying though makes me think that the whole hydrolyzed thing has been debunked, or partially so. Maybe I need to be brought up to speed on current research and recommendations. Are there any studies, or even just online articles, you could direct me to?

Again, thank you both. Looks like I have to re-evaluate the need for Hydrolyzed in the first place. Any help in that regard is greatly appreciated.

Your taking a shake prior to working out, so the need for something immediately is not necessary

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=165802131

When are Carbs and Protein VERY Important Post-workout?

Carbs:
- During leg Training + HIIT Cardio or doing a 2-3 hour intense workout session
Protein:
-Resistance Training in a fasted state (no meal consumed at least 3-4 hours prior)

When are Carbs and Protein of lesser importance Post-workout?

Carbs:
- 1-2 hour training session after a pre-workout meal (Small or mixed 2-3 hours prior to session)
Protein:
- Training after a meal composed of 20-40g Protein at least 1-2 hours prior to a workout in a fed state.

Overall Cliffs:

- Nutrient Timing can be beneficial but window of opportunity is not as big as believed
- Provided protein rich meal 3-4 hours prior to training, there is no stress about immediate post-workout protein supplement or meal
- Consume .4-.5g/kg of LBM in a pre/post workout exercise window spaced 4-6 hours depending on meal size.
- Post workout carb intake does not meaningful increase aabolicsm unless doing a 2 a day workout session involving same muscle groups. Glycogen is not a limting factor if you can consume enough Carbohydrates daily in the 24 hour period.

Here you go:

http://www.jissn.com/content/10/1/5
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19106243
http://jap.physiology.org/content/110/3/834.full
http://jap.physiology.org/content/106/5/1730.full
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19478342
http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content/295/1/E70.full
http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content/284/1/E76.long
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2129150/

[Chuwey]

Your taking a shake prior to working out, so the need for something immediately is not necessary

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=165802131

When are Carbs and Protein VERY Important Post-workout?

Carbs:
- During leg Training + HIIT Cardio or doing a 2-3 hour intense workout session
Protein:
-Resistance Training in a fasted state (no meal consumed at least 3-4 hours prior)

When are Carbs and Protein of lesser importance Post-workout?

Carbs:
- 1-2 hour training session after a pre-workout meal (Small or mixed 2-3 hours prior to session)
Protein:
- Training after a meal composed of 20-40g Protein at least 1-2 hours prior to a workout in a fed state.

Overall Cliffs:

- Nutrient Timing can be beneficial but window of opportunity is not as big as believed
- Provided protein rich meal 3-4 hours prior to training, there is no stress about immediate post-workout protein supplement or meal
- Consume .4-.5g/kg of LBM in a pre/post workout exercise window spaced 4-6 hours depending on meal size.
- Post workout carb intake does not meaningful increase aabolicsm unless doing a 2 a day workout session involving same muscle groups. Glycogen is not a limting factor if you can consume enough Carbohydrates daily in the 24 hour period.

Here you go:

http://www.jissn.com/content/10/1/5
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19106243
http://jap.physiology.org/content/110/3/834.full
http://jap.physiology.org/content/106/5/1730.full
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19478342
http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content/295/1/E70.full
http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content/284/1/E76.long
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2129150/

Dude. These links are a trove! I've just skimmed the first few so far, but thank you!