Rennet in Whey - need advice

[rishi88]

Hi,

I am a lacto veg ie I can eat only dairy products and NONE other animal derived ingredient.In most of the brands, animal rennet is used in the production of whey.

Is rennet actually present in the whey powder which we drink or it is just used for the coagulation process in preparation of whey and removed from whey powder later ?Is rennet mixed along with the whey powder that we drink ?Do we drink rennet as well when we drink the whey shake ?

Thank you !

Regards

[bdillingham5]

Hi,

I am a lacto veg ie I can eat only dairy products and NONE other animal derived ingredient.In most of the brands, animal rennet is used in the production of whey.

Is rennet actually present in the whey powder which we drink or it is just used for the coagulation process in preparation of whey and removed from whey powder later ?Is rennet mixed along with the whey powder that we drink ?Do we drink rennet as well when we drink the whey shake ?

Thank you !

Regards

Why don't you just look for a non-whey protein? There are a few good ones here on bb.com like SAN Raw Fusion, Vega Protein, and AI Sports NO WHEY.....

[TMac26]

Why don't you just look for a non-whey protein? There are a few good ones here on bb.com like SAN Raw Fusion, Vega Protein, and AI Sports NO WHEY.....

This.


Not worth it. Even though most rennet is made synthetically now.

[poison]

Thanks for the rawfusion mention, but....SAN Titanium Whey is made with Glanbia Provon, which is kosher, and this guarantees there is no animal rennet used. Feel free to call Glanbia to verify.

[Vinny82]

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Not worth it. Even though most rennet is made synthetically now.

This most rennet is microbial rennet these days as animal derived has become extremely expensive. However being that it's hard info to even find out who half these companies source their whey from its going to be a shot in the dark asking that question. Look into a vegan protein, or egg whites (I've been using muscle egg expensive but good) or just focus on whole food sources

[rishi88]

is rennet mixed in the whey powder or its found only in cheese? I just don't want any animal ingredient mixed in my whey powder....if its used in preparation, I am cool with it.

[poison]

is rennet mixed in the whey powder or its found only in cheese? I just don't want any animal ingredient mixed in my whey powder....if its used in preparation, I am cool with it.

There's traces of rennet in whey powder. As mentioned, most is synthetic. But because Glanbia whey is kosher and halal, any glanbia-sourced whey will NOT have animal rennet in it or around it. Period. SAN uses Glanbia whey, so you know what to do.

[rishi88]

Great !! ThanK you so much for the suggestion Poison... I will have a look on SAN whey products...

Does it have NATURAL flavour whey ( ie without any artificial sweetner) and is it pure ?

with pure I mean- whether its tested for heavy metals.....

Thanks in advance.

[chemo29]

in most of the brands, animal rennet is used in the production of whey.

lol nope

[rishi88]

@ Chemo29-Thanks for the reply. Could you please help me with some brands that use veg rennet ?

SAN uses veg rennet ( as @Poison mentioned), I will look into it......just want to know whether you know any other brands. Thanks

[poison]

Great !! ThanK you so much for the suggestion Poison... I will have a look on SAN whey products...

Does it have NATURAL flavour whey ( ie without any artificial sweetner) and is it pure ?

with pure I mean- whether its tested for heavy metals.....

Thanks in advance.

Yes, our 100% natural whey is 100% natural. Glanbia is the highest quality whey you can buy, from US-sourced dairy. In addition to the testing Glanbia does, SAN produces the final product in-house, in our cGMP and NSF certified facility, so there's no chance of contamination, and we check each ingredient for purity multiple times throughout production. Here's a kick ass video on the process:

[chemo29]

@ Chemo29-Thanks for the reply. Could you please help me with some brands that use veg rennet ?

SAN uses veg rennet ( as @Poison mentioned), I will look into it......just want to know whether you know any other brands. Thanks

Can you clarify why you are vegetarian? By choice, by religious belief or because of an allergy?
By choice: I pity you
By religion: follow your usual kosher/halal certification logos
Because of an allergy: let's avoid milk based protein powders altogether

Thanks for the rawfusion mention, but....SAN Titanium Whey is made with Glanbia Provon, which is kosher, and this guarantees there is no animal rennet used. Feel free to call Glanbia to verify.

While this statement is true in practice, there is an exception ...
if the animals (rennet can be extracted from sheep, camel, goat, etc) are slaughtered according to kosher/halal ritual practices, rennet can be extracted from them and thus become halal or kosher animal rennet

[TMac26]

Can you clarify why you are vegetarian? By choice, by religious belief or because of an allergy?
By choice: I pity you
By religion: follow your usual kosher/halal certification logos
Because of an allergy: let's avoid milk based protein powders altogether



While this statement is true in practice, there is an exception ...
if the animals (rennet can be extracted from sheep, camel, goat, etc) are slaughtered according to kosher/halal ritual practices, rennet can be extracted from them and thus become halal or kosher animal rennet

Nope.


Has to be microbiological.


http://www.albalagh.net/halal/col4.shtml


Microbial rennet preparation has to be used.

[chemo29]

Nope.


Has to be microbiological.


http://www.albalagh.net/halal/col4.shtml


Microbial rennet preparation has to be used.

http://www.chr-hansen.com/news-media...net-range.html

Special NATUREN® items, such as Halal certified and lamb rennet are also

[TMac26]

I fail to see how that is used in whey protein.


And what I posted was from a Halal website. Which I would take their word over a manufacturer. And the site even says "buy from Halal certified as rennet sources can change without the muslim consumer's knowledge"

[chemo29]

I fail to see how that is used in whey protein.

Naturen is a rennet that can be had as lamb sourced halal version

rennet is used to curd casein to make cheese
whey is collected and processed
profit?

[TMac26]

I know what's its used for. I grew up on a farm and made cheese with my family.



Like I said, I would just buy based on the certification. If someone is strictly following Halal, they are not going to concern themselves with buying a 3rd party product and researching where the rennet comes from.


They are just going to buy a Halal Certified product.

[chemo29]

I know what's its used for. I grew up on a farm and made cheese with my family.



Like I said, I would just buy based on the certification. If someone is strictly following Halal, they are not going to concern themselves with buying a 3rd party product and researching where the rennet comes from.


They are just going to buy a Halal Certified product.

isn't that what I was saying in the first part of post #12?

[TMac26]

isn't that what I was saying in the first part of post #12?

You did according to Halal. But you were wrong in accordance to Kosher law.


But to be Kosher you cannot use Animal Rennet in Dairy. That's a huge violation of Kosher law. Separation of animal products and dairy. Therefore, all rennet must be synthetic or plant based.

[fahdalsheheata]

dammned I'm a muslim and I don't like to ask if rennet is halal or not. ignorance sometime is a blessing lol

[rishi88]

@Chemo29 - By choice

Thanks @TMac26 - buying a kosher certified whey will be good idea it seems

Can you guys help me on any brand that use veg rennet for preparing whey ? or the brands that get their whey from Glanbia ( as they use veg rennet ) ? It will be a great help

Thanks

[TMac26]

@Chemo29 - By choice

Thanks @TMac26 - buying a kosher certified whey will be good idea it seems

Can you guys help me on any brand that use veg rennet for preparing whey ? or the brands that get their whey from Glanbia ( as they use veg rennet ) ? It will be a great help

Thanks

I would stick with SAN. They are Kosher certified. Problem solved.

[chemo29]

You did according to Halal. But you were wrong in accordance to Kosher law.


But to be Kosher you cannot use Animal Rennet in Dairy. That's a huge violation of Kosher law. Separation of animal products and dairy. Therefore, all rennet must be synthetic or plant based.

sorry I couldn't reply earlier my lunch break was over

Animal rennet and lipase can be kosher, however. If the kosher source animal is slaughtered, de-veined, salted and processed according to kosher law, its rennet and lipase are fine for kosher use. (There is no halachic problem with using animal-derived enzymes in cheese [mixing meat and milk] since the amounts used are miniscule. Moreover, the enzymes are not cooked with the milk, and they are flavorless. Also, the davar hama’amid principle cited earlier only applies to non-kosher substances, and the enzymes are actually kosher.) Still, even cheese made with glatt kosher animal rennet and lipase is considered gevinat Akum when manufactured by non-Jews, as the sages created a general ban on such cheese.
http://www.kashrut.com/articles/cheese/

I didn't want to open a can of worms.
All I am saying is that: yes kosher/halal certs should be enough to let one presume the rennet is microbial/fermentation, but it's not a 100% garantee

[rishi88]

Thanks for confusing me @ Chemo29 lol

[poison]

sorry I couldn't reply earlier my lunch break was over



I didn't want to open a can of worms.
All I am saying is that: yes kosher/halal certs should be enough to let one presume the rennet is microbial/fermentation, but it's not a 100% garantee

I guarantee you a company of glanbia size isn't buying kosher animal rennet. But don't take my word for it, feel free to ask them. They do answer the phone over there, and are super nice.

[chemo29]

I guarantee you a company of glanbia size isn't buying kosher animal rennet. But don't take my word for it, feel free to ask them. They do answer the phone over there, and are super nice.

I think you are right.
However, I never mentioned Glanbia in my earlier posts. As a matter of fact, I have no qualm about any brand of protein powders

That was just for the sake of conversation

[kardoxo]

Just get some Vegan Protein Powder like MyProtein's Vegan Blend or some Rice or Hemp Protein.

[fahdalsheheata]

Thanks for confusing me @ Chemo29 lol

If I were you, I would start calling companies using glanbia whey like SAM, ON, BSN. This way you can know for sure. Sam rep told their whey is hala. If you are a muslim, you don't have to make things complicated. I don't want to turn this into a history lesson, but people who lived in early days of islam were way more chill when it comes to food. the original status of food in general is that it is permitted unless proven otherwise. it is as simple as that

[rishi88]

Thank you guys for your help.

Does anyone have any idea whether if Glanbia supply its whey to Isopure or Muscletech ? I have sent an email to them 3-4 days back but still waiting for reply.

[TMac26]

Thank you guys for your help.

Does anyone have any idea whether if Glanbia supply its whey to Isopure or Muscletech ? I have sent an email to them 3-4 days back but still waiting for reply.

I believe that Isopure is now owned under the Glanbia conglomerate.