How much pain are you in?

[tackett]

Dude I don't mean to be a b**ch, but dang.

Do the rest of guys hurt constantly? Between my lower back and my tendinitis in my elbow, I feel like a shell most days. This can't be normal.

The squats just destroy my lumbar and sacral spine, and the pendlay rows are giving me so much tendinitis that my left arm is pretty much useless.

God it sucks getting old. Surely this doesn't happen to everyone else.

[kimm4]

Age 35 LOL...

[RT1957]

Do you warmup and do you do warmup sets for every exercise????....do you deload?????....are you using good form or pushing weight for the sake of pushing weight....?????

[MarcAWilson]

Dude...wtf is going on. Everybody's hurting themselves this week.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=168227093


Anyway, yeah if you follow most strength programs you're gonna be in pain often. My trap, elbow, sternum, back, and hip are all bad right now.

[doughnutgut]

I whistle to get my socks to scurry over and jump on my feet every morning.

Roll down the stairs as easier than trying to walk.

Get in my car and stay in it as long as possible so as to not have to ask an old lady for help getitng out.

Need a remote control toilet seat to chit twice a day.

Ask my wife to open jars of food as wrists too limp.

Answering my phone on bluetooth as shoulder and elbow too painful to put handset to my ear.





All due to training.



But it feelsgoodman.

[Plateauplower]

Dude I don't mean to be a b**ch, but dang.

Do the rest of guys hurt constantly? Between my lower back and my tendinitis in my elbow, I feel like a shell most days. This can't be normal.

The squats just destroy my lumbar and sacral spine, and the pendlay rows are giving me so much tendinitis that my left arm is pretty much useless.

God it sucks getting old. Surely this doesn't happen to everyone else.

I think you need to re-evaluate your training. Occasional DOMS, sure I like it if it only lasts a day or two. Occasional minor stuff like tendinitis sure, adjust to avoid making it worse and let it heal. Occasional fuke yourself up doing something stupid sure, work around it until it heals. Excruciating pain everyday - nope. Might want re-evaluate your form, programming, medical issues or all three.

[kimm4]

Anyway, yeah if you follow most strength programs you're gonna be in pain often.

Sigh...

[TDXkev]

I think you need to re-evaluate your training. Occasional DOMS, sure I like it if it only lasts a day or two. Occasional minor stuff like tendinitis sure, adjust to avoid making it worse and let it heal. Occasional fuke yourself up doing something stupid sure, work around it until it heals. Excruciating pain everyday - nope. Might want re-evaluate your form, programming, medical issues or all three.

I agree - occasional pain is going to happen per the above and soreness as well but you should never have constant pain, regardless of what program you're on. I also wouldn't look at it as being a bitch - pain like you describe isn't something you should ignore. I'm 35 as well and plan on being around for a while, I certainly wouldn't want to screw something up now that is going to be debilitating for the rest of my life.

[DuracellBunny]

[tackett]

Do you warmup and do you do warmup sets for every exercise????....do you deload?????....are you using good form or pushing weight for the sake of pushing weight....?????

I do the warm up sets as outlined in the strong lifts routine. Per my app actually.

I deload if I fail a set 3 times, as indicated by the program.

As to the good form, it's really hard to tell without a third party. I THINK my form is correct. I posted up a vid of my squats and everyone here helped me out. As to if I've back slid and have poorer form with heavier weight, I can't say. I need a third party to shoot some vid.


Really and truly I think something is wrong with my back. Between all the football and stupid abuse in my high school years, there's probably an actual medical problem that needs addressed. The days where I squat and do rows are just excruciating for the next couple of days.

My tendinitis is really exacerbated by the rows. I've started using wrist straps and it's helped immensely, but it's still there. My grip in the left hand is just non existent.

Probably two things I need a health care professionals to look at.

[drudixon]

I do the warm up sets as outlined in the strong lifts routine. Per my app actually.

I deload if I fail a set 3 times, as indicated by the program.

As to the good form, it's really hard to tell without a third party. I THINK my form is correct. I posted up a vid of my squats and everyone here helped me out. As to if I've back slid and have poorer form with heavier weight, I can't say. I need a third party to shoot some vid.


Really and truly I think something is wrong with my back. Between all the football and stupid abuse in my high school years, there's probably an actual medical problem that needs addressed. The days where I squat and do rows are just excruciating for the next couple of days.

My tendinitis is really exacerbated by the rows. I've started using wrist straps and it's helped immensely, but it's still there. My grip in the left hand is just non existent.

Probably two things I need a health care professionals to look at.

Solid grip in one hand but not in the other sounds nervous system related. Chiropractor would be my first stop. 40 bucks and you'll know instantly if it works.

[EjnarKolinkar]

Sub maximal training should make up almost all of your training.

I don't care how smart your programming is or how good you are at performing each lift. Continuous near-maximal exertion with very little exercise variation will snap your chit up eventually.

DUP programs with a lot of exercise variation, including isolation exercises = great for bodybuilding.

Combining both and adding in a little impatience or ego = great for short term overreaching phases, NOT great for injury prevention and athletic longevity.

wat? okay, okay. you may have a point. You sure this isn't just something trendy like 5/3/1

[Jbizzlechizzle]

Dude I don't mean to be a b**ch, but dang.

Do the rest of guys hurt constantly? Between my lower back and my tendinitis in my elbow, I feel like a shell most days. This can't be normal.

The squats just destroy my lumbar and sacral spine, and the pendlay rows are giving me so much tendinitis that my left arm is pretty much useless.

God it sucks getting old. Surely this doesn't happen to everyone else.

I'm sore most days, but I can't say anything "hurts" much. Maybe reduce the weight and take a closer look at your form because the kind of pain you're describing isn't really normal, imo. Yes, some days it might be hard to put your socks or your shirt on or even tie your hoes, but those are just normal DOMS. What does your programming look like? Are you getting enough rest and food?

[RT1957]

I do the warm up sets as outlined in the strong lifts routine. Per my app actually.

I deload if I fail a set 3 times, as indicated by the program.

As to the good form, it's really hard to tell without a third party. I THINK my form is correct. I posted up a vid of my squats and everyone here helped me out. As to if I've back slid and have poorer form with heavier weight, I can't say. I need a third party to shoot some vid.


Really and truly I think something is wrong with my back. Between all the football and stupid abuse in my high school years, there's probably an actual medical problem that needs addressed. The days where I squat and do rows are just excruciating for the next couple of days.

My tendinitis is really exacerbated by the rows. I've started using wrist straps and it's helped immensely, but it's still there. My grip in the left hand is just non existent.

Probably two things I need a health care professionals to look at.

Yeah go to the doc and rule out disk problems for your back. If it's just spasms then getting on a stretching and back rehab program will help. There's a lot of good forearm stretches that will help your tendinitis but backing off and giving it some rest might help. Along with wrapping it....It's like adding an extra layer of ligaments/tendons to help support the soft tissues that are inflamed. You also can't work through an injury...there are exercises that you can do as rehab but to continue to pound away in pain can only cause more stress and further injury...IMHO

[Sonuvagun]

Glad you posted this. I was going to post something similar. After getting back in the gym after a decade off, I've been humbled by some "aches and pains". Father Time has made some withdrawals on my account evidently.

Nothing excruciating though. Tendinitis and joints mostly. I've had some moderate back/shoulder pain at times. I just try and stay in tune with what my body is telling me. Sometimes that involves swallowing some pride and working around the pain. If bb's/db's are aggravating something, I'll move to a machine or cables. It may not be my preference for said workout but I'm looking at this time around as a marathon,not a sprint.

I feel like I wasted a workout if I'm not sore the next day. Having said that, DOMS are rad....pains and strains not so much, if that makes any sense. Good luck and take care of yourself Brother!

[MissHolly]

Do the rest of guys hurt constantly?

No

I'm sore most days, but I can't say anything "hurts" much. Maybe reduce the weight and take a closer look at your form because the kind of pain you're describing isn't really normal, imo. Yes, some days it might be hard to put your socks or your shirt on or even tie your hoes, but those are just normal DOMS. What does your programming look like? Are you getting enough rest and food?

Hate when I can't tie my hoes. It's hard to keep them in line some days.

[justinfore]

...Between my lower back and my tendinitis in my elbow, I feel like a shell most days. This can't be normal.

The squats just destroy my lumbar and sacral spine, and the pendlay rows are giving me so much tendinitis that my left arm is pretty much useless.
....

Noticed as I get older there are certain movements I need to avoid (agreed...seem to be based on old sports injuries). Funny you mentioned pendlay rows...they did the same thing to my left arm (elbow). I got rid of the pendlay rows and just sub out with more pullups and cable rows. Also had to get rid of any curl movements that support elbows, just to recover.

I don't have any issues with my lower back, but following the same logic, perhaps change stance, switch to front squats (or some other squat variation) that doesn't put as much load on your lower back.

[JimmyJonny]

Solid grip in one hand but not in the other sounds nervous system related. Chiropractor would be my first stop. 40 bucks and you'll know instantly if it works.

^ Very possible. It would be in your neck ( as far as I know ). It's exactly what I'm dealing with and trying to recover from. My surgeon tests my grip & push/pull movements when I see him...... recovery is a bitch.

It could be a red flag, don't ignore it.

[Jbizzlechizzle]

No



Hate when I can't tie my hoes. It's hard to keep them in line some days.

lmao! Typo or Freudian slip, you decide... Haha gotta keep them hoes in check!

[VanWattGym]

36 years here and yes, little niggles that don't qualify as 'injuries' but things like tendonitis are still pretty nasty and lead to avoiding certain exercises. I blame weak asian joints. My dad has never trained a day in his life and he cracks like bubble wrap when he moves around so I guess my genetics aren't exactly great either.

[bodyhard]

Dude I don't mean to be a b**ch, but dang.

Do the rest of guys hurt constantly? Between my lower back and my tendinitis in my elbow, I feel like a shell most days. This can't be normal.

The squats just destroy my lumbar and sacral spine, and the pendlay rows are giving me so much tendinitis that my left arm is pretty much useless.

God it sucks getting old. Surely this doesn't happen to everyone else.

Don't blame your piece of crap body to old age.

[pharmamarketer]

Dude I don't mean to be a b**ch, but dang.

Do the rest of guys hurt constantly? Between my lower back and my tendinitis in my elbow, I feel like a shell most days. This can't be normal.

The squats just destroy my lumbar and sacral spine, and the pendlay rows are giving me so much tendinitis that my left arm is pretty much useless.

God it sucks getting old. Surely this doesn't happen to everyone else.

Old age? You are doing it wrong. I have been doing strength programs for 5 years. I have had little things here and there hurt but never what you mention.

[Juggertha]

I had TONS of pain getting back into it after a 10 yr lay off - it was due to a spinal misalignment, and extremely tight muscles.

Foam rolling helped me a lot.

[Bo_Flecks]

Do the rest of guys hurt constantly?

I looked at the recent photos in your bodyspace. I think a lot of your aches and pains would be alleviated it you lost quite a bit of weight and worked on your overall fitness level. Not trying to be a d'ck here, but I'm old enough to be your dad, and the level of pain you described is in a completely different universe from anything I ever experience.

[MrNismo]

I had TONS of pain getting back into it after a 10 yr lay off - it was due to a spinal misalignment, and extremely tight muscles.

Foam rolling helped me a lot.

Same here, little over 10 years. My pain was due to too much ego combined with sitting non-stop for work over those 10 years out of the gym. Those 2 combinations resulted in enough knee and shoulder pain to wake me up at night once I started lifting again. Pushed through anyway and now I've had to spend almost the entire last year working hard on mobility. Still on the core lifts but much lighter weight with focus on 'feeling' things working properly.

As others have said, put in the time and effort now to fix whatever is wrong as opposed to pushing through it. 35 is too damn young to be in pain all the time!

And for me, posting videos of things like squat or pullup form weren't really good enough as the tiny things like ankle collapse or humeral glide in the shoulder are really hard to see in video. Videos work great for general form analysis but you also need to do your own research for videos from guys like Eric Cressey or Kelly Starret and use those to work on movement quality.

[tackett]

I looked at the recent photos in your bodyspace. I think a lot of your aches and pains would be alleviated it you lost quite a bit of weight and worked on your overall fitness level. Not trying to be a d'ck here, but I'm old enough to be your dad, and the level of pain you described is in a completely different universe from anything I ever experience.

No offense taken. Once I get my strength up where I want it, I plan to cut a lot.

I've been eating in excess and shot from 250 to 280. My lifts are increasing like mad on stronglifts and I'm making great progress. I'm just too afraid at this point of stalling out to start cutting the excess adipose out.

I'd really like to get my squats up to 300 until I start cutting. That's my goal anyway. Which (typing at the gym currently) I just finished up 210lbs so I don't think it's unreachable.

But yea I know I need to cut down abou 20% BF and soon. My sleep apnea will improve or go away, and a lot of aches and pains would be solved.

Though I think my back is medical.

[tackett]

Same here, little over 10 years. My pain was due to too much ego combined with sitting non-stop for work over those 10 years out of the gym. Those 2 combinations resulted in enough knee and shoulder pain to wake me up at night once I started lifting again. Pushed through anyway and now I've had to spend almost the entire last year working hard on mobility. Still on the core lifts but much lighter weight with focus on 'feeling' things working properly.

As others have said, put in the time and effort now to fix whatever is wrong as opposed to pushing through it. 35 is too damn young to be in pain all the time!

And for me, posting videos of things like squat or pullup form weren't really good enough as the tiny things like ankle collapse or humeral glide in the shoulder are really hard to see in video. Videos work great for general form analysis but you also need to do your own research for videos from guys like Eric Cressey or Kelly Starret and use those to work on movement quality.

Had to acknowledge a great post.

[tackett]

WOW....

Those body space photos were not great. Didn't really even look. Just snapped and uploaded.

I put a new one up. Not sure if it was the mirror or what.

[Tmax55]

I've done legs five of the last nine days. I do at least 3-4 sets of warmups before I lift anything heavy. I have pain in my muscles during the heavier sets of the workouts. I have no joint pain. I am not in pain when I am not lifting. I have some soreness, but its not excessive. But, I am constantly tired no matter how much I sleep.

Looking forward to doing shoulders and back today.

If you warm up properly and use decent form you should not have aches and pains other than occasionally. I don't.

[justinfore]

I've done legs five of the last nine days...

Damn! Are you getting enough recovery time? I need a solid 3-4 days to recover after leg day!