Cheat day... Should I?

[ErikTheElectric]

Hope these words will help me get me back on track because I think I am starting to have symptoms of an eating disorder (Barely eating over 1500 cals a day etc)

If you are finding it psychologically hard to "eat more" then you may need see someone.

[Nara22]

Bro, you're 17. Eat whatever the hell you want.

[nikefighter]

It is controversial, but you could try GOMAD.

[rick911]

cheat day all day bro!

[gloria7]

Dude you're only 17, and extremely skinny. Your hormones are at their prime. Eat whatever you want and in whatever amounts satisfy you. Then go hit the weights hard. Let your body grow. You won't regret this but you will regret being a 25-30 yo complaining about his height or struggling to gain muscle easy

[Wcr2]

If you are finding it psychologically hard to "eat more" then you may need see someone.

Your anorexia recovery videos really helped me bro

[Wcr2]

Dude you're only 17, and extremely skinny. Your hormones are at their prime. Eat whatever you want and in whatever amounts satisfy you. Then go hit the weights hard. Let your body grow. You won't regret this but you will regret being a 25-30 yo complaining about his height or struggling to gain muscle easy

even by havin one cheat day/ week?

[HUG3]

You're 128 lbs at 17...I don't see why you're not pigging out. And don't listen to the Electric over there...you don't have an eating disorder, you just need to eat more...I know people who just tend to eat less and they're okay with it...doesn't mean they need to see a freakin therapist.

If you were 17 and 220 lbs I'd tell you that it's not "cheating" it's "giving up"...but you're on the complete opposite end of that spectrum.

[Wcr2]

You're 128 lbs at 17...I don't see why you're not pigging out. And don't listen to the Electric over there...you don't have an eating disorder, you just need to eat more...I know people who just tend to eat less and they're okay with it...doesn't mean they need to see a freakin therapist.

If you were 17 and 220 lbs I'd tell you that it's not "cheating" it's "giving up"...but you're on the complete opposite end of that spectrum.

the problem is that I have trouble eating i just cant i feel bad

[HUG3]

You legitimately feel bad if you eat a normal meal? You need to understand how quickly and effectively your body uses up that food...and how important it is to eat normally and never be hungry at your age so that you can grow man. Your food is the resource you're going to use to grow and sculpt your body. You shouldn't feel bad by eating , if anything I should since I'm overweight...and I've lost 30 lbs so far watching my diet and working out. I eat healthy foods whenever the hell I want and every Wednesday after back day me and my friends made it a tradition to go to cheesecake and have a cheat...it's not hindering my progress either.

Why do you feel bad though? What is your goal? I assume you're trying to pack some mass on at your weight...if so, then eat like a monster man, just give it a try. Even if you feel bad about it just remember that everyone here told you to eat eat eat, because it's the logical thing to do! You're not unhealthy...there's no reason for you to feel bad about pounding down some food. After everything I've eaten today I'm going to go have a freakin pound of chicken and feel great about it, why shouldn't you.

Go have two cheat meals a week if anything. Big deal.

[determined4000]

@OP
You clearly have some physchological issues that you need to clear up
You need to see a psychologist if at your weight and wegiht you feel guilty after eating and fear weight gain
I suggest you ditch the idea of a cheat, as you will probably just restrict aferword since you will "feel bad" for whatever you end up eating

you need to learn how to eat to fuel your body and growth in a reasonable way and not feel negatively about it.
Are you getting help?

[ErikTheElectric]

Your anorexia recovery videos really helped me bro

Good to hear. Let me know if you need help with your eating.

[Wcr2]

@OP
You clearly have some physchological issues that you need to clear up
You need to see a psychologist if at your weight and wegiht you feel guilty after eating and fear weight gain
I suggest you ditch the idea of a cheat, as you will probably just restrict aferword since you will "feel bad" for whatever you end up eating

you need to learn how to eat to fuel your body and growth in a reasonable way and not feel negatively about it.
Are you getting help?

I eat i just dont eat alot sum like 1500 cals a day.. Basically im just finding it hard cause it is so easy to binge since im restricting myself all week

[Wcr2]

Good to hear. Let me know if you need help with your eating.

have u been obsessed by cardio? I do cardio 6x a week to make sur to feel "active"... Was it your case?

[Wcr2]

@OP
You clearly have some physchological issues that you need to clear up
You need to see a psychologist if at your weight and wegiht you feel guilty after eating and fear weight gain
I suggest you ditch the idea of a cheat, as you will probably just restrict aferword since you will "feel bad" for whatever you end up eating

you need to learn how to eat to fuel your body and growth in a reasonable way and not feel negatively about it.
Are you getting help?

And yeah i am actually getting help from a psychologist

[ErikTheElectric]

have u been obsessed by cardio? I do cardio 6x a week to make sur to feel "active"... Was it your case?

Fitness and cardiovascular activity should be used to ENHANCE your quality of life. NOT take away from it.

[determined4000]

I eat i just dont eat alot sum like 1500 cals a day.. Basically im just finding it hard cause it is so easy to binge since im restricting myself all week

at 1500 calories you shouldnt be allowed to walk around nevermind exercise.
that is hardly enough calories to keep your heart pumping.

I can't imagine you are happy eating this way or healthy. You must feel week and irritable all the time.
Is it worth it? What are you getting out of it?
Why not feel strong, vibrant, personable and healthy?

Once you decide you are sick and tired of being sick and tired you will do what needs to be done to change, but until then, you will continue to just exist and not really live.

[Bergerm57]

Brother I've definitely been where you're at mentally. I actually deal with it still, but am much better at confronting those thoughts and realizing my mind is messing with me. Eating disorders are no joke and you do show some symptoms of it. When I'm on a role in my diet and need a cheat meal but want to keep pushing it's hard for me to indulge and relax at all.

One thing that might help justify it is that you mentioned macros of 150pro 375 (or close) carbs and 85 fat but that you hadn't gone over 150 carbs and 30 fat all week. Just add in the 225 carbs and 55 fat for all the days you didn't consume them and see how many calories you didn't get in. Hypothetically, If you missed those macros every day for a week you'd be eating around 9700 less calories than you allotted for.

Considering how hard it is to consume 10k in a day unless you're really trying to, you can definitely fit in a few good cheat meals in a day and still be in a deficit for your totals for the week. I do these kinds of calculations whenever I know I need some extra calories but have a hard time justifying them.

[gloria7]

For starters, since you can't eat much, I'd suggest slowly increasin your caloric intake to 2000-2500 cals by eating small amounts of food that are calorie-dense. Drink some high-fat milk, use some oil in your meals, have a pb sammich here and there. Cut down on the amount of cardio. Lift more and you're still being active. You will feel better psychologically as well as about how your body looks overtime. Then try to eat some more. Daily. This will diminish your urge to "cheat" as well

[jonnicola]

so many potato comments ITT from otherwise respectable posters

It's one thing to tell someone they are underweight and to advise them to increase their calories gradually, giving examples, meal ideas, ways around their mental block, etc

It's a whole different story telling someone who has food issues to just 'eat more', 'pig out', 'eat everything' etc

smh sometimes

[Wcr2]

so many potato comments ITT from otherwise respectable posters

It's one thing to tell someone they are underweight and to advise them to increase their calories gradually, giving examples, meal ideas, ways around their mental block, etc

It's a whole different story telling someone who has food issues to just 'eat more', 'pig out', 'eat everything' etc

smh sometimes

This u said all I wanted to say they aint in my position. From their perception they wish they could eat but it is ****ing me up mentally.

[Wcr2]

Brother I've definitely been where you're at mentally. I actually deal with it still, but am much better at confronting those thoughts and realizing my mind is messing with me. Eating disorders are no joke and you do show some symptoms of it. When I'm on a role in my diet and need a cheat meal but want to keep pushing it's hard for me to indulge and relax at all.

One thing that might help justify it is that you mentioned macros of 150pro 375 (or close) carbs and 85 fat but that you hadn't gone over 150 carbs and 30 fat all week. Just add in the 225 carbs and 55 fat for all the days you didn't consume them and see how many calories you didn't get in. Hypothetically, If you missed those macros every day for a week you'd be eating around 9700 less calories than you allotted for.

Considering how hard it is to consume 10k in a day unless you're really trying to, you can definitely fit in a few good cheat meals in a day and still be in a deficit for your totals for the week. I do these kinds of calculations whenever I know I need some extra calories but have a hard time justifying them.

How went you through all this? Also that is a good way of thinking otherwise I want to gain a little bit more something like 3-4 pounds of muscles nore being in a deficit

[Wcr2]

For starters, since you can't eat much, I'd suggest slowly increasin your caloric intake to 2000-2500 cals by eating small amounts of food that are calorie-dense. Drink some high-fat milk, use some oil in your meals, have a pb sammich here and there. Cut down on the amount of cardio. Lift more and you're still being active. You will feel better psychologically as well as about how your body looks overtime. Then try to eat some more. Daily. This will diminish your urge to "cheat" as well

my maintenance, according to MFP is 2553 cals a day but do they factor that i'm a growing teenager?

[Great_Story_Bro]

You legitimately feel bad if you eat a normal meal? You need to understand how quickly and effectively your body uses up that food.

This! My two biggest periods of growth I ever had while in the peak of my lifting was first when I worked at Chick-fil-a between 17-19 and eating a ton of food, and when I was 21 and on a cruise with all-you-can-eat food and decided to bring some workout clothes with me. I ate clean, and left that boat weighing a solid 5 lbs heavier and all my lifts were up. I miss the dedication I used to have.

my maintenance, according to MFP is 2553 cals a day but do they factor that i'm a growing teenager?

Not since I used it last, so add another 3-500 to that my friend.

[Wcr2]

This! My two biggest periods of growth I ever had while in the peak of my lifting was first when I worked at Chick-fil-a between 17-19 and eating a ton of food, and when I was 21 and on a cruise with all-you-can-eat food and decided to bring some workout clothes with me. I ate clean, and left that boat weighing a solid 5 lbs heavier and all my lifts were up. I miss the dedication I used to have.



Not since I used it last, so add another 3-500 to that my friend.

between 17-19 were u gaining weight and eating whatever the F u wanted to ?

[vsportsguy]

Please tell me you aren't trying to lose weight at 5'9 128 lbs. Seriously, you need to get up to 170 minimum before you even consider losing weight... I went up to 200 before I ever went on a cut.

[thinkgreen]

yea for some people it seems easy xD but for me just feeling guilty to eat don't want to look like a fat dude !

Most women weigh more than you, and you are worried about being a fat dude? I think there are more issues (mental, body perceptions, etc) you need to look into.

[Wcr2]

Most women weigh more than you, and you are worried about being a fat dude? I think there are more issues (mental, body perceptions, etc) you need to look into.

Yea obviously

[Wcr2]

Please tell me you aren't trying to lose weight at 5'9 128 lbs. Seriously, you need to get up to 170 minimum before you even consider losing weight... I went up to 200 before I ever went on a cut.

170? lol I saw dudes that won physique contests and they are 5'8 150 pounds