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[Serpentarius]

ur fkn dum

come in me bro, i aint scared.

[Znik]

Znik you must have a peanut head. My arms are the same size but my head looks twice your size.. and I'm shorter.

Peanut head or lying about height.

Just the angle that dwarfed my head. Or maybe I do have a peanut head, dunno never measured.

Go measure your head and tell us the specs.

[NitrogenWidget]

How I now imagine you looking at a cheesy burger...





lmaooo!!

i'm now imagining you as that cheesy burger......

[NitrogenWidget]

Just the angle that dwarfed my head. Or maybe I do have a peanut head, dunno never measured.

Go measure your head and tell us the specs.

Dirk Pitt: Maybe you have a small head.
Al Giordino: I don't think so. Someone would have told me.

[csb5731]

Do you even lift anymore or have you gone full cardio bunny?

I still lift.

Just threw out that whole progressive resistance crap, as well as leg day.

[missladyj]

i'm now imagining you as that cheesy burger......

[Oosss]

damn you guys with all this food

[Oosss]

when I'm stuck in china can't have any of these

[missladyj]

when I'm stuck in china can't have any of these

Aww

What has you in China?

[Znik]

when I'm stuck in china can't have any of these

They eat other stuff in China, gains ?

[moore93]

double stacked Mcdonalds poverty burger. ijs

Oh I didn't realize you took a quick cell phone snap of my lunch while I was at work that serious as if I was in some competition.

Just the angle that dwarfed my head. Or maybe I do have a peanut head, dunno never measured.

Go measure your head and tell us the specs.

My head is legit ridiculous. 23.4inches where the rim of a hat would rest. Which is funny because statistically it's not big yet I can't fit in 90% of hats that other people can.

[PsyLadX]

Hi everyone!
Znik & missladyj, mentioned you both in this post. Hope you don't mind.

Carry on shining!
And have a magnificent Monday all!

ETA: Happy leap year day! Time to get Superman drunk af!

[Serpentarius]

Went running for the first time since about August of 2014, last monday, in 7 days was able to run a 5k non stop in 24 mins, which is slow compared to what i could do. For some reason my spinal erector no longer hurts since i started, it has hurt chronically for about 2.5 years now. Yesterday i felt like i was going to get a blister on my foot, sure enough, i got about 1 mile in today and it started burning, because i progressed so quickly the skin never toughened up. I drained the delicious interstitial fluid.
Been eating like 1400 calories a day this entire week going FULL MACHINIST MODE to cut extremely fast.

[missladyj]

Oh I didn't realize you took a quick cell phone snap of my lunch while I was at work that serious as if I was in some competition.

[Znik]

My head is legit ridiculous. 23.4inches where the rim of a hat would rest. Which is funny because statistically it's not big yet I can't fit in 90% of hats that other people can.

22.5inches or so here.

[GSXRMax]

i screwed up yesterday dude. been on PSMF for the past week. planned to follow it through until april 1st. but yesterday. idk what happened man. but chocolate milk, and subway, and ribs, and then i ate a reeses. like damn dude i screwed up. the guilt is real.

[stingray72]

i screwed up yesterday dude. been on PSMF for the past week. planned to follow it through until april 1st. but yesterday. idk what happened man. but chocolate milk, and subway, and ribs, and then i ate a reeses. like damn dude i screwed up. the guilt is real.

psmf is tough esp. at your height.

[GSXRMax]

psmf is tough esp. at your height.

diet adherence has always been pretty easy for me. when i went keto i went 0cab without a problem. and psmf hasn't been too bad. 2 shakes, and 15oz of chicken breast everyday. but idk what happened yesterday. it was like someone else was in my body and all they wanted was food.

[stingray72]

diet adherence has always been pretty easy for me. when i went keto i went 0cab without a problem. and psmf hasn't been too bad. 2 shakes, and 15oz of chicken breast everyday. but idk what happened yesterday. it was like someone else was in my body and all they wanted was food.

Haha oh well pick up and learn from it is all you can do.

[mavajo]

Yay, test levels are at 244 ng/dL. Hooray for me.

FML. On the other hand, I have an all-new understanding for my wife's moodiness.

[GSXRMax]

Yay, test levels are at 244 ng/dL. Hooray for me.

FML. On the other hand, I have an all-new understanding for my wife's moodiness.

TRT levels. i recommend looking into it. i'm at 331. out of range for TRT but i ran a trial of HRT and felt 1000x better. doc said by next year after weight loss if my test levels aren't normalized then we'd start TRT

[PsyLadX]

diet adherence has always been pretty easy for me. when i went keto i went 0cab without a problem. and psmf hasn't been too bad. 2 shakes, and 15oz of chicken breast everyday. but idk what happened yesterday. it was like someone else was in my body and all they wanted was food.

Co-incidentally, the same happened to me last night, brother. But managed to stay 100 cals below daily maintenance cals yest.
Ish happens. No biggie! I have realized that its time to seriously consider IIFYM while keeping fiber intake up, on a cut.
You should participate more in the weight loss challenge thread.

@Serpentarius Ouch!

[GSXRMax]

Co-incidentally, the same happened to me last night, brother. But managed to stay 100 cals below daily maintenance cals yest.
Ish happens. No biggie! I have realized that its time to seriously consider IIFYM while keeping fiber intake up, on a cut.
You should participate more in the weight loss challenge thread.

i'm close to the end of my cut so my numbers aren't impressive anymore :[
also i don't have a goal, just cutting til april 1st then bulking, so who knows where i'll end up.
i have no idea if i went over maintenance but i sure as hell know i went over my PSMF goal of 160P in under 1000cal lol.

[PsyLadX]

i'm close to the end of my cut so my numbers aren't impressive anymore :[
also i don't have a goal, just cutting til april 1st then bulking, so who knows where i'll end up.
i have no idea if i went over maintenance but i sure as hell know i went over my PSMF goal of 160P in under 1000cal lol.

Progress is progress, nonetheless. Great to know you are still headed in the right direction.
But maybe thats the problem; Not having a definite bf goal. Just a thought.
Best thing you could do now is reflect on the incident and bring about a positive outcome out of it.

[GSXRMax]

been trying to lie to myself and call it a refeed. it's not working lol

it really was the rookie mistake of going shopping while hungry. for that, lesson learned -_-

[mavajo]

TRT levels. i recommend looking into it. i'm at 331. out of range for TRT but i ran a trial of HRT and felt 1000x better. doc said by next year after weight loss if my test levels aren't normalized then we'd start TRT

Yeah I was 340 ng/dL early last year. The endocrinologist declared it "normal"* and said everything was fine! Well that was quite a comfort. I just told my symptoms that everything was normal and it made it all better. *rollseyes* Anyway, I was fortunately able to convince her that we needed to try something (as an aside, I find it crazy that I had to convince my doctor to treat my symptoms) and she prescribed Androgel. She didn't think insurance would approve it, but they did. Ran it for 4 months and definitely felt better. But then it came time to renew and insurance indicated they were not going to approve it, so my endo wouldn't even try. She prescribed Clomid instead, as TRT. I ran that for about a month and didn't like how I was feeling, so I discontinued. It's now been another month and here I am with that current test result. It may still be suppressed from the Androgel, but originally the endo thought it would rebound quickly on its own because it was such a brief run -- and the Clomid should have helped it rebound even faster.

She wants me to try the Clomid again. I'm not interested in trying the Clomid again. So I've reached out to a low T center in the area. We'll see what happens. I'm not looking for supra-physiological doses - I just want to get back to feeling normal.

*I think the notion of what's a "normal" test level is going to be completely re-worked in the coming years. The range is just crazy.

[GSXRMax]

when i had my first test come back at 280ng/dL they wanted to put my on TRT right away. i declined and said i wanted to drop weight, fix eating habits, and hopefully bring it up naturally. 70lbs later, healthy diet, exercise, etc, and it went up to 331. that's as drastic of a change that can be expected from a total diet overhaul, so any doctor that tells you you can change a hormone naturally is full of it. just my 2c

[mavajo]

when i had my first test come back at 280ng/dL they wanted to put my on TRT right away. i declined and said i wanted to drop weight, fix eating habits, and hopefully bring it up naturally. 70lbs later, healthy diet, exercise, etc, and it went up to 331. that's as drastic of a change that can be expected from a total diet overhaul, so any doctor that tells you you can change a hormone naturally is full of it. just my 2c

I agree. And that was part of my pitch to my endo. I was like look, I'm already lifting regularly, I eat well, I've lost weight, I get plenty of sleep and I'm not stressed more than any other average adult. And with all those variables in my favor, I'm sitting at 340 ng/dl. Basically, I'm doing everything correctly and my reward is to have a test level so low that I'm suffering low T symptoms, but juuuuuust high enough that I'm technically normal and can't get approved for TRT. Or to at least try TRT and see if it helps. Her initial answer was "Well every guy feels better when they're on testosterone." Oh no, how awful.

Could be nothing or just pure coincidence, but when I lost all my weight and got in shape, I remember people constantly saying "Oh you must feel great! So much more energy." I really didn't. Felt exactly the same. Generally lethargic, low energy, etc. I didn't really start even considering low testosterone could be an issue until my PCP mentioned it during a physical. I started thinking about it and decided to get tested a couple months later.

[GSXRMax]

"everyone feels better without a hormone imbalance"

haha what a dope. well get your hands on some more androgel, use it for 2 weeks, then stop cold turkey. then get another blood test at a new doctor when your levels plummit to 60ng/dL and you're g2g

[Znik]

*I think the notion of what's a "normal" test level is going to be completely re-worked in the coming years. The range is just crazy.

The "normal" test level range is utterly stupid as it doesn't factor in age or lifestyle at all.

340 ng/dL is normal for someone at the age of 85+ but it's half of the normal range for someone who's 25.

It's like saying it's normal for people to get Alzheimer,arthritis,osteoporosis etc. at the age of 20 , because people at 65+ get it too!

http://www.artofmanliness.com/2013/0...terone-levels/ has a pretty good article on the test levels thing.

But that being said, 340 ng/dL might be the new normal for 20 year old soon since test levels are rapidly declining each generation with laziness and obesity


In other news: my cut is getting delayed, been stuck with the flu since Thursday and it ain't getting better. Not going to start rapid cut without being able to lift/exercise and being sick