what do you think is more imporant: space or deep-sea exploration? (POLL)

[Unwicht]

Space for sure we don't know what's out there, scientist say there's only 8 undiscovered species in the ocean.

Its not only about undiscovered species, but also about ressources. You cant mine ressources in space, can you?

[COFFEEMUG]

Technological advances in general are slowly coming to a halt. We're entering a new dark age with little to no technological advancement.

[MuckSnapper]

Ocean. There's nothing in space for us.

Oh ok can't believe someone with all the answers of space posts in this forum

[phikappa]

balls deep ftw

[TheUniBrah]

Its not only about undiscovered species, but also about ressources. You cant mine ressources in space, can you?

Elon Musk the GOAT has plans for this

[Benihanas]

realistically, we should be refining and developing technology further to allow us to do more with our explorations other than send out an updated "probe" or satellite and collect "data" and pictures...we should be figuring out how to develop exploratory technology that allows us to do much more than we ever had...Curiosity was a start

[krazy33]

Technological advances in general are slowly coming to a halt. We're entering a new dark age with little to no technological advancement.

Says who..uwotm8.. i will guarantee you we have tech we could only dream of

Biches control and prolong the release of it to make more money. Not to mention the military

To op, i say space. As far as finding origin of universe if its even possible

Water is already here and apart of us

[T073]

Space for sure we don't know what's out there, scientist say there's only 8 undiscovered species in the ocean.

Those 8 undiscovered species went into space. We need to mine of them out of asteroids.
So my vote is for space.

[HMFIC_BROWSIN]

Space by far.

So many unexplained law of physics stuff in space (black holes etc)...

Stuff under the ocean is very strange, but mostly understandable.

[TheUniBrah]

Space by far.

So many unexplained law of physics stuff in space (black holes etc)...

Stuff under the ocean is very strange, but mostly understandable.

I dont think we need to leave earth for much of the physics stuff, no?

Im obviously no physics phd, but i assume the scale of the tests needed to prove/disprove many theories is inconceivably large (impossible)

[AngusPeppered]

Technological advances in general are slowly coming to a halt. We're entering a new dark age with little to no technological advancement.

wut

[HMFIC_BROWSIN]

I dont think we need to leave earth for much of the physics stuff, no?

Im obviously no physics phd, but i assume the scale of the tests needed to prove/disprove many theories is inconceivably large (impossible)

Even if we don't "leave earth" to learn and study black holes, there's still a chit load of necessary funding to try and understand this stuff.

[Drayg00n]

Space imo. But by the time we get space travel up and running seriously (for everyone) the Earth will have been thoroughly searched. The secrets hidden in the Earth's deep can't compare to the secrets in space, though both are startling.

[infinit]

Technological advances in general are slowly coming to a halt. We're entering a new dark age with little to no technological advancement.

Nah. It is just harder to pick the apples from the tree when you have picked all the low hanging ones.

[uMirinSon93]

Deep sea...how the phuck can we understand whats out there if we dont even know our own place first?

[collapsibletank]

http://ocean.si.edu/blog/one-fish-tw...overed-species

[Unwicht]

Nah. It is just harder to pick the apples from the tree when you have picked all the low hanging ones.

Our intelligence is not infinite, we will come to a point where our brain capabilities wont suffice for further advancements.

Imo there are two alternatives: create a higher intelligence (AI) or change our own genes to make them better.

[woody19]

lets be real this is the next evolution of man

Kevin "GOAT" Costner gave us all the blueprint to the future, but we are just too ignorant to listen. Lol at you if you are buying a house instead of a yacht

[peterj1994]

Its not only about undiscovered species, but also about ressources. You cant mine ressources in space, can you?

I forget who said it, but it was said that the worlds first trillionaire will be whoever starts mining asteroids first.

[collapsibletank]

I forget who said it, but it was said that the worlds first trillionaire will be whoever starts mining asteroids first.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ore_resources_on_Mars

Cliffs:

Get your ass to Mars

[Lightsoft]

lol... water is right below us why not explore it...

inb4 space is above us

[TMaC828]

Well according to some show on History channel or TLC or some **** Aliens are living in the ocean.

[Sinan09400]

The phsysics, quantums etc of deep sea are no different than the land.

But I have a feeling that there are some galaxies out there with completely different systems; that our minds may never understand and our bodies may never adapt to.

Like two dimensions... Or for the system of some other galaxy, it is normal when things always bend or something like that.

[COFFEEMUG]

Says who..uwotm8.. i will guarantee you we have tech we could only dream of

Biches control and prolong the release of it to make more money. Not to mention the military

wut

this guy has it almost right:

Nah. It is just harder to pick the apples from the tree when you have picked all the low hanging ones.

All the advances in the 20th century were built on the foundation of revolutionary scientific discoveries from the 19th century. We really haven't had many (if any) revolutionary new discoveries since then. The number of new advances are slowing. Part of it has to do with the market distortions in research (like the fact we've been pouring money into string theory for 40 years with no results), part of it has to do with the idea that we are slowly exhausting new fruitful avenues, we have eaten all the low hanging fruit.

For example, the best, most efficient rocket engine design currently in use was developed by the failed Soviet moon program in the 1960s:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMbl_ofF3AM

And before people start going "but muh AI, muh microprocessors", consumer grade PC performance has been stagnant for years. A Current gen i7 has roughly 5-10% more real world performance in games as an i7 from 5 years ago. The newer processors run cooler, but are not that much faster. Your Xbox One really isn't that much better than an Xbox 360, there are no drastically different or revolutionary uses that have happened by upgrading. It's the same concept, but incrementally faster.

The other issue with AI is that we don't even know how human consciousness or intelligence works. We have some abstractions in psychology that are helpful (to some degree) but it really is a mystery and there is no proof throwing billions and trillions of units of processing power at the problem can solve anything.

[TheUniBrah]

this guy has it almost right:


All the advances in the 20th century were built on the foundation of revolutionary scientific discoveries from the 19th century. We really haven't had many (if any) revolutionary new discoveries since then. The number of new advances are slowing. Part of it has to do with the market distortions in research (like the fact we've been pouring money into string theory for 40 years with no results), part of it has to do with the idea that we are slowly exhausting new fruitful avenues, we have eaten all the low hanging fruit.

For example, the best, most efficient rocket engine design currently in use was developed by the failed Soviet moon program in the 1960s:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMbl_ofF3AM

And before people start going "but muh AI, muh microprocessors", consumer grade PC performance has been stagnant for years. A Current gen i7 has roughly 5-10% more real world performance in games as an i7 from 5 years ago. The newer processors run cooler, but are not that much faster. Your Xbox One really isn't that much better than an Xbox 360, there are no drastically different or revolutionary uses that have happened by upgrading. It's the same concept, but incrementally faster.

The other issue with AI is that we don't even know how human consciousness or intelligence works. We have some abstractions in psychology that are helpful (to some degree) but it really is a mystery and there is no proof throwing billions and trillions of units of processing power at the problem can solve anything.

i see it more as, the world its becoming more and more specialized in what we research.
as a result, any "significant" discovery is only truely significant in one field, where it really isnt seen how it can (if it even can) be transferred to other sectors.

what im getting at is: there is significantly more discoveries being made, but they are so specialized that the majority of people either a) wont understand or b) dont care

[CommonPheasant]

Space is a lot bigger...

[Benny_Lava]

i don't see migrating to an unexplored part of the ocean being an option to carry on the human race.

[EnderG60]

Deep sea only because its important to know the workings of your own world above others. Mapping and exploring the deep sea could easily be done with a bunch of automated subs that would all cost less than one planetary mission.

But both are extremely important and both should be funded. Anyone that says either is a waste of time and money is too stupid to even converse with.

[Benny_Lava]

Deep sea, because space exploration is pointsless with todays technology. We cant even fully comprehend the distances in space.

and what better way to increase our knowledge and space exploration technology than by ignoring it!

[Fivefootkillerz]

Space no questions but we need to finish with the oceans and find them megalodons