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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Of course, he's lost every game already anyway, so...,
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    Adam Orlandoson.
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    I have a job offer coming shortly. I may have to give my fortnight notice soon

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    adam make changes to your line up. Everyone on your team is on bye. I have never seen a team with so many players on bye!!!!! Thox, brox
    Exactly, fighting through the bad times is what shows character. Luckily for you and I we have more Championships than losing seasons, but we'll always scrap during those rare times. I wonder if Mikey obtains a defense that isn't on bye.
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    Originally Posted by im2manly View Post
    I have a job offer coming shortly. I may have to give my fortnight notice soon
    Wow congrats you've been looking for a new opportunity for a while.
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    Originally Posted by Orlando1234977 View Post
    Wow congrats you've been looking for a new opportunity for a while.
    Yea, I have. I thought it would be easy given my credentials/resume, but it is fukkin hard out there. Thank God I have a job and was able to be selective about where I was going to go.

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    Originally Posted by im2manly View Post
    I have a job offer coming shortly. I may have to give my fortnight notice soon
    Same legal arena?
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    Originally Posted by Final_Rep View Post
    Same legal arena?
    For the most part, although I'll be doing more transactional work. Before, I was doing mainly securities litigation, white collar defense, and complex commercial litigation (derivative/shareholder disputes, civil RICO claims, breach of contract claims, etc). Now, I'll be doing that plus more advisory opinions and transactions. The split is about 75 lit/25 transactional. And I am way closer to home. I am excite.

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    Originally Posted by im2manly View Post
    For the most part, although I'll be doing more transactional work. Before, I was doing mainly securities litigation, white collar defense, and complex commercial litigation (derivative/shareholder disputes, civil RICO claims, breach of contract claims, etc). Now, I'll be doing that plus more advisory opinions and transactions. The split is about 75 lit/25 transactional. And I am way closer to home. I am excite.
    Sweet!

    So... is that a foothold into M&A? Or is it already M&A?
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    Originally Posted by Final_Rep View Post
    Sweet!

    So... is that a foothold into M&A? Or is it already M&A?
    It could be. They didn't go into a great deal about the transactional aspect (as they interviewed me for my lit/clerkship background), but I hope so. Transactional clients are much easier to find than litigation clients.

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    Originally Posted by im2manly View Post
    It could be. They didn't go into a great deal about the transactional aspect (as they interviewed me for my lit/clerkship background), but I hope so. Transactional clients are much easier to find than litigation clients.
    What is a transactional client?
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    Originally Posted by im2manly View Post
    It could be. They didn't go into a great deal about the transactional aspect (as they interviewed me for my lit/clerkship background), but I hope so. Transactional clients are much easier to find than litigation clients.
    Well that is pretty exciting. Congrats brah!
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    Originally Posted by Orlando1234977 View Post
    What is a transactional client?
    Could be M&A like frep said, joint ventures, structuring partnerships, exit strategies, value realizations, etc. Basically any client who is looking to make money without suing someone.

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    Exactly, fighting through the bad times is what shows character. Luckily for you and I we have more Championships than losing seasons, but we'll always scrap during those rare times. I wonder if Mikey obtains a defense that isn't on bye.
    I agree. Last season I was having a piss poor season to start. Thought about just bowing out and focusing on my other leagues. But figured, that isn't my style and perhaps I can score some upsets on the contenders. It was a 12 team league with 6 of them making the playoffs.

    I ended up on a nice streak towards the end and finished 3rd overall. Funny considering like 5 weeks before the playoffs I was about to quit.
    Originally Posted by im2manly View Post
    Could be M&A like frep said, joint ventures, structuring partnerships, exit strategies, value realizations, etc. Basically any client who is looking to make money without suing someone.
    What is M&A?

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    Originally Posted by chazzy1864 View Post
    What is M&A?
    Mergers and acquisitions. IANAL but my understanding is there's potential for big money in that.
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    This Is Why NFL Star Greg Hardy Was Arrested For Assaulting His Ex-Girlfriend

    Jerry Jones' response:

    “While we did not have access to the photos that became public today, we were and are aware of the serious nature of this incident. We as an organization take this very seriously. We do not condone domestic violence. We entered into the agreement with Greg fully understanding that there would be scrutiny and criticism. We have given Greg a second chance. He is a member of our team and someone who is grateful for the opportunity he has been given to move forward with his life and his career.”

    Translation: we will continue to hire scum to improve our chances of winning football games.

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    This Is Why NFL Star Greg Hardy Was Arrested For Assaulting His Ex-Girlfriend

    Jerry Jones' response:

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    Translation: we will continue to hire scum to improve our chances of winning football games.
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    should be zero tolerance. End of story.
    Catch is, arrest =/= guilt.

    Long run big picture you can't really fire/ban guys because they got arrested.

    Next catch is, of course...court processes take waay too long.

    And even then...the $ is in the W's

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    Catch is, arrest =/= guilt.

    Long run big picture you can't really fire/ban guys because they got arrested.

    Next catch is, of course...court processes take waay too long.

    And even then...the $ is in the W's
    NFL teams can cut players whenever they wish.

    Hardy was convicted in a bench trial, appealed, and then paid to ensure the victim would just go away.

    Your last point trumps all.
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Catch is, arrest =/= guilt.

    Long run big picture you can't really fire/ban guys because they got arrested.

    Next catch is, of course...court processes take waay too long.

    And even then...the $ is in the W's
    Incorrect. The $ is in the fans.

    There won't be any fans if they keep hiring and forgiving convicted thugs.
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    NFL teams can cut players whenever they wish.

    Hardy was convicted in a bench trial, appealed, and then paid to ensure the victim would just go away.

    Your last point trumps all.
    I don't keep up with any of the specific players/events, just making a general statement. Given that, however...you aren't a Cowboys fan and won't support them anymore right? So ****ing dumb.

    Originally Posted by Final_Rep View Post
    Incorrect. The $ is in the fans.

    There won't be any fans if they keep hiring and forgiving convicted thugs.
    The $ is in the fans, but the fans are in for the W's.

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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    The $ is in the fans, but the fans are in for the W's.
    So now you get to characterize millions of people and define every choice they make based on a single variable.

    God, it must be great being you sometimes.
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    Originally Posted by Final_Rep View Post
    Incorrect. The $ is in the fans.

    There won't be any fans if they keep hiring and forgiving convicted thugs.
    Originally Posted by Final_Rep View Post
    So now you get to characterize millions of people and define every choice they make based on a single variable.

    God, it must be great being you sometimes.
    That seems pretty presumptuous to assume that you have an better way to run an NFL organization to ensure it maintains fans and revenue. Remember, we already have law enforcement agencies.
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    Originally Posted by Orlando1234977 View Post
    That seems pretty presumptuous to assume that you have an better way to run an NFL organization to ensure it maintains fans and revenue. Remember, we already have law enforcement agencies.
    It's perspectives like this that end up destroying the image of organizations.

    Nevermind the fact that it's just the right thing to do.

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    Originally Posted by Final_Rep View Post
    So now you get to characterize millions of people and define every choice they make based on a single variable.

    God, it must be great being you sometimes.
    lol

    Are you seriously going to create an argument because you don't think that a sports team winning is what brings in the fans and their money?

    Yeah I'm sure teams like the Patriots are popular and fill their seats while teams like Tampa and Jax are less popular and have empty seats for reasons completely unrelated to on field performance, RE: Wins.

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    Originally Posted by Final_Rep View Post
    It's perspectives like this that end up destroying the image of organizations.

    Nevermind the fact that it's just the right thing to do.

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    I believe in second chances (within reason) but he got 4 games and only avoided jail time because he paid his victim off. Four games is not long enough to change your attitude. It's like a one week ban for a seasoned troll in this joint.

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    Originally Posted by Final_Rep View Post
    It's perspectives like this that end up destroying the image of organizations.
    Oh I didn't realize that. Which NFL organizations have been destroyed due to their image?

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    Nevermind the fact that it's just the right thing to do.
    Even though your little tabloids make it look easy, what if the NFL gets a case wrong, would further enforcement still be the 'right thing' to do? Keep in mind, even highly trained professionals in law and law enforcement get things wrong or make wrongful accusations. Seems like a reckless line to cross for the power hungry like you.
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    Here's the thing...the NFL could easily make stiffer penalties with less grey area if they truly wanted to, but the NFL is controlled by the team owners (not the fans). And if Jerry Jones (as an example) wants a piece of **** player cause he can tackle good and allows Jerry's team to win more games then the NFL will not do a damn thing above the minimum level of punishment.

    Cause the NFL is controlled by the team owners. The owners are there to turn profit off their teams branding and as Farley points out that is driven by fans. And the majority of fans want to support winning teams.

    The owners/NFL could drive a lot of the BS out though, if they really wanted to...only reason it doesn't happen is because you'd have to get ALL owners and all league personnel as well as the player's union to fully agree 100% on exactly how they'll punish players for these sort of things. But everyone is a special snowflake in this world so they prefer "judgement" ruling over well defined punishments.
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