Shoulders - who you got - Phil or Kai

[tomsika]

Who do you think has better shoulders?

I think Kai has this body part

I did find two comparative clips of the athletes working shoulders, no idea about the years. Really went for comparison movements

[RoroCwalker]

Overall and for the most part, convincingly Phil.

The only arguable part, IMO, is the rear delt.

Kai's rear delt is rounder (in the SC), they're wider/thicker in the RLS, he has a deeper crevice (as seen in the FDB), which gives him a more defined/detailed delt in the FDB (although, it's still smaller).






Although, he lacks the thickness that Phil displays in the front and medial delt. (Phil is more striated, more vascular, has a more defined separation between delts and arm)

Overall, whatever advantage Kai has, it's not enough to beat Phil on that single body part.

The picture isn't scaled, but I guess you get the idea.

[Ryanreece]

Kai has stronger shoulders. But Phil's look better. Phil has better shoulders triceps forearms and traps. Kai has better everything else.

[TropicalSunset]

Kai has stronger shoulders. But Phil's look better. Phil has better shoulders triceps forearms and traps. Kai has better everything else.

I agree. Kai's shoulders are slightly undersized. I think Phil's shoulders are better.

[Unbiasedfan]

Difference in hardness and separation in the thighs, apart from quads, really caught my eye in that last pic

[ONYDO]

Difference in hardness and separation in the thighs, apart from quads, really caught my eye in that last pic

They are in diffent posture. Phil have them more apart and has feet outwards to show and flex hamstrings and kai just flexing quad from the front

[WizardsOfAus]

Not sure if srs or troll thread. Shoulders are Phil's best body part, and probably Kai's worst. Phil's are better simply because they have more roundness and "pop".

[BartPimpson]

Phil's are bigger, have more pop, and more separation. Kai's sometimes blend in with his arms, his chest, and his traps.

It depends on the posing, sometimes Kai's look pretty good.

[Carlifter1245]

Phil's are better but I think he just poses them better than Kai and at the end what you see is what matters.

[EvertonFC2010]

Between these two it's Phil

I like Big Ramy's shoulders though

[endurancell]

Difference in hardness and separation in the thighs, apart from quads, really caught my eye in that last pic

[img]http://i.imgur.com/sdkDfjT.png[img]

I think that pic showcases the difference timing in a photo can have more than anything. For some reason, Kai keeps his legs too close together and doesn't activate the quad/adductors/pectineus in most poses by pushing down with his foot and outwards like Phil does even though he has the superior leg development, size and crispness



Belongs in the ownage thread tbh

[Iceman1981]

Phil

[mike8190]

Not sure if srs or troll thread. Shoulders are Phil's best body part, and probably Kai's worst. Phil's are better simply because they have more roundness and "pop".

Pretty much this. Only thing I can say for kai in this department is I prefer his shape in certain poses like the side chest for instance. They have that heart shape. But phil definitely has better shoulders overall.

[SuperPH]

of course it's Phil...

[spamy]

Not sure if srs or troll thread. Shoulders are Phil's best body part, and probably Kai's worst. Phil's are better simply because they have more roundness and "pop".

I thought it was his left arm

[Kulutues]

of course it's Phil...

Whys he still training? He doesn't have to come in bigger than anybody to win the O, he's already proven that many times. Or necessarily more conditioned, he was very bloated last year.

Phil should just do cardio every day, with some light kettlebell training. Maybe Physique would be a good division for a body like his

[Kulutues]

I think that pic showcases the difference timing in a photo can have more than anything. For some reason, Kai keeps his legs too close together and doesn't activate the quad/adductors/pectineus in most poses by pushing down with his foot and outwards like Phil does even though he has the superior leg development, size and crispness



Belongs in the ownage thread tbh

This is Phil's leg next to Kai, imagine it next to Ramy/Wolf's.....

[Big Slim DaDDy]

Whys he still training? He doesn't have to come in bigger than anybody to win the O, he's already proven that many times. Or necessarily more conditioned, he was very bloated last year.

Phil should just do cardio every day, with some light kettlebell training. Maybe Physique would be a good division for a body like his

Prepare your crying speech for this year in advance. Come next year you'll need 6 fingers..6!!!!..to count how many titles Phil has won. That's 2 hands!! You're gonna need 2 hands for this!!!

[featureless]

Phil

nuff said!

[deathmetal1992]

I like Kai a lot more than Phil, but Phil has him on shoulders.

[Jonphinguyen7]

Phil has better delts IMO. They just look enormous and detailed.

[XCriticalBenchX]

Kais bigger, phils better IMO.

[NaturalLoco]

Mind blown at such a stupid thread.. can't believe OP is serious

[DPNZ]

Smh.

[DPNZ]

Who you guys reckon has better calves?

Johnny Jackson or Ben Pakulski?

[203mh]

Phil... Kai has solid shoulders but Phil wins this

[Problematique91]

Kai's shoulders are pretty good, but in comparison to Phil they are not as good.

One of the reasons I dislike Kai's "Crab MM" is because of how his delts seem to disappear when he hits this pose.