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    So if eggs are all good...

    So eggs have been deemed officially 100% safe for consumption a year or two ago, right?

    So why are so many people still digging into egg whites? From various articles I've read on bb.com, egg whites contain only a fraction of the nutrients as the yolk. So why do I still see seasoned bodybuilders saying they eat omelets with 1 eggs + 6 egg whites? Don't the whites contain <1 gram of protein?
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    No bb I know does that. Just sites posting trendy advice in their articles.
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    I remember reading an article where Jay Cutler said he fixes an omelet with 2-3 whole eggs + like 14 whites. I'm pretty sure I read it in an actual magazine so I couldn't post a link...

    Maybe in his case it's better than 16-17 whole eggs? I dunno..
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    Originally Posted by DolphinPilot View Post
    So eggs have been deemed officially 100% safe for consumption a year or two ago, right?

    So why are so many people still digging into egg whites? From various articles I've read on bb.com, egg whites contain only a fraction of the nutrients as the yolk. So why do I still see seasoned bodybuilders saying they eat omelets with 1 eggs + 6 egg whites? Don't the whites contain <1 gram of protein?

    Bodybuilders on drugs can get by with extremely low fat intakes. The rest of us, cannot.

    And no, the white contains half the of the eggs protein.
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    Originally Posted by DolphinPilot View Post
    So eggs have been deemed officially 100% safe for consumption a year or two ago, right?

    So why are so many people still digging into egg whites? From various articles I've read on bb.com, egg whites contain only a fraction of the nutrients as the yolk. So why do I still see seasoned bodybuilders saying they eat omelets with 1 eggs + 6 egg whites? Don't the whites contain <1 gram of protein?
    There are two sides of the story. It's true that controlled shorter term studies have found no negative effects for healthy people, but there are still long term epidemiological studies showing that eating 6 eggs per day may not be the best idea.

    Critics of epidemiological studies will often point out that correlation doesn't prove causation, which is true of course, but that doesn't mean we should totally ignore them in my opinion.

    If you're interested in the epidemiological studies, here are two articles:
    http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/eggs/
    http://canceranddiet.nl/cardiovascul...ease/eggs.html

    Other reasons to avoid egg yolks are keeping your calories down and keeping (saturated) fats down.

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    Don't the whites contain <1 gram of protein?
    No, about 3 to 4 grams usually.
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    Some people cannot seem to fathom that others prefer to get their sources of fat elsewhere.
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    Originally Posted by ErikTheElectric View Post
    Some people cannot seem to fathom that others prefer to get their sources of fat elsewhere.

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    Originally Posted by ErikTheElectric View Post
    Some people cannot seem to fathom that others prefer to get their sources of fat elsewhere.
    This. I would rather use some whites and pack an omelette with cheese, steak, bacon, etc.
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    I prefer having the whole egg, but sometimes do make an omelet with maybe 3 full eggs and 3 whites- Reason being I am on a cut and using just the whites adds volume to the omelet, some extra protein, and is low calories.
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    Egg whites are insanely low calorie and almost pure protein. Great for cutting. I actually like egg beaters in the carton because I think they taste better than just whites, and I'm lazy.
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    Originally Posted by lee__d View Post
    Egg whites are insanely low calorie and almost pure protein. Great for cutting. I actually like egg beaters in the carton because I think they taste better than just whites, and I'm lazy.
    Same here. Egg beaters...low calorie, almost pure protein, I don't waste the yolk by buying whole eggs, and I like the taste. Not that a whole egg is a lot of calories or "bad" for you, I just prefer the egg whites/egg beaters with some cheese or ham/sausage.
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    Originally Posted by DolphinPilot View Post
    So why are so many people still digging into egg whites?
    Could be any of a number of reasons from simply being misinformed about the nutritional value of whole eggs to parroting what's posted in muscle magazine articles.


    To find any more specific reason for such choices, you'd have to ask the egg white proponents directly.
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    I have high blood pressure and am already taking meds for that. If my cholesterol goes up my doc will nag me to go on Statin's and I am not doing that.

    I still eat one whole egg a day mixed with egg whites. For the micros.
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    Maybe the eggs just become bad for you when you pour syrup all over them... Wait... aw shucks.
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    Originally Posted by jdrush View Post
    I have high blood pressure and am already taking meds for that. If my cholesterol goes up my doc will nag me to go on Statin's and I am not doing that.

    I still eat one whole egg a day mixed with egg whites. For the micros.
    Same here, have had high blood pressure since I was ~22 and have been taking meds ever since.

    To be honest I have never really looked into altering my diet to try and help the high blood pressure. Can you give me any advice on things I could be doing that might help?
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    Hot sauce is my salt. And I try to get more potassium to balance the sodium. I eat about 9 stalks of celery a day; I just make a veggie dip with Greek yogurt using hot sauce and onion powder.

    I went from a 20 mg dose down to a 10 mg dose. Although the weight loss may have played a factor in that as well, and I do quite a bit of cardio.
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    Originally Posted by DolphinPilot View Post
    So eggs have been deemed officially 100% safe for consumption a year or two ago, right?

    So why are so many people still digging into egg whites? From various articles I've read on bb.com, egg whites contain only a fraction of the nutrients as the yolk. So why do I still see seasoned bodybuilders saying they eat omelets with 1 eggs + 6 egg whites? Don't the whites contain <1 gram of protein?
    I don't want to go into all scientific, but egg yolks have LDL cholesterol in them, which isn't terribly great when consumed in excess. Longitudinal studies have gone back and forth regarding having "egg a day" and is it good for you in relation to various cardiovascular outcomes. Recent literature says eggs (with yolks) are fine in moderation, but too many and you start to drastically increases your chances for CVD. If still confused/ curious, pubmed "eggs cvd"
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    See here is the funny thing: Most everything posted here is stark contrast to other info I've read in other egg threads throughout these forums, bb.com articles, etc. etc.

    It seems like whole eggs are too controversial in the nutrition field. Would it be a waste to ask for a source that is 100% reliable, undisputed fact?
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    Originally Posted by DolphinPilot View Post
    See here is the funny thing: Most everything posted here is stark contrast to other info I've read in other egg threads throughout these forums, bb.com articles, etc. etc.

    It seems like whole eggs are too controversial in the nutrition field. Would it be a waste to ask for a source that is 100% reliable, undisputed fact?

    Protip: Don't read bb.com articles
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    One egg = 6g protein, 4.5g fat
    white = 3.5g protein
    yolk = 2.5g protein, 4.5g fat, vitamins

    Many prefer to cut out yolks and get fat into their diets from elsewhere either because a) they are concerned about cholesterol given the conflicting nutrition advice out there or b) they prefer the taste of other sources.

    Personally, I eat seven whole eggs every day and have done so (varying from 5-8) for years. Almost half of my daily fat intake is from eggs. I do this because they are easy and I want to make my diet as simple as possible. Also, my parents have chickens so I almost always have access to farm fresh eggs for free.
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    Originally Posted by DolphinPilot View Post
    See here is the funny thing: Most everything posted here is stark contrast to other info I've read in other egg threads throughout these forums, bb.com articles, etc. etc.

    It seems like whole eggs are too controversial in the nutrition field. Would it be a waste to ask for a source that is 100% reliable, undisputed fact?
    Eggs are bad come from the idea that saturated fats are bad. They are not. A substantial number of people are changing their tune about saturated fats currently, and all the inconsistency is people catching up. If you can fit in your macros, then by all means eat it. If egg whites are more your style, then eat that.
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    Originally Posted by KJohnT View Post
    One egg = 6g protein, 4.5g fat
    white = 3.5g protein
    yolk = 2.5g protein, 4.5g fat, vitamins

    Many prefer to cut out yolks and get fat into their diets from elsewhere either because a) they are concerned about cholesterol given the conflicting nutrition advice out there or b) they prefer the taste of other sources.

    Personally, I eat seven whole eggs every day and have done so (varying from 5-8) for years. Almost half of my daily fat intake is from eggs. I do this because they are easy and I want to make my diet as simple as possible. Also, my parents have chickens so I almost always have access to farm fresh eggs for free.
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    Originally Posted by DolphinPilot View Post
    It seems like whole eggs are too controversial in the nutrition field.
    They are controversial. Didn't you read post #5?

    Would it be a waste to ask for a source that is 100% reliable, undisputed fact?
    Doesn't exist regarding eggs. This is a topic that the scientists continue to argue about.

    Also consider that you are on Bodybuilding.com, you're not on Longevity.com.

    Originally Posted by ErikTheElectric View Post
    Protip: Don't read bb.com articles
    It seems like lately they've been stepping up their game. I've seen good articles by Brad Schoenfeld, Layne Norton and heck, I even saw a good push/pull/legs split by Jacob Wilson.

    Originally Posted by Canadiantuxedo View Post
    Eggs are bad come from the idea that saturated fats are bad.
    Partly but there's more to the story than that.
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    Eggs and the oil needed to fry them with screws up my macro. I would rather add more whites on it or eat something else.

    Boiled and poached eggs can get old fast.
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    Originally Posted by Mrpb View Post
    Critics of epidemiological studies will often point out that correlation doesn't prove causation, which is true of course, but that doesn't mean we should totally ignore them in my opinion.
    So much this. Epidemiology is observation, which is the first step in the scientific process. The fitness industry is terrible about taking epidemiological data and running with it like it's gospel.

    There's nothing wrong with the fat or cholesterol content in eggs. Eat as many as you want for whatever your macro needs are.

    I eat eggs every day and give no ****s.
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    whites are a ****ing super food tailored by evolution to make embyros grow the biggest and strongest as possible
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    If it is known that smoking causes cancer, why do people still smoke?

    People gonna do what they wanna do.

    Also FYI, it isn't just "a year or two ago". The government dietary recommendations for reducing saturated fat and cholesterol intake were forced through based on bogus science from corrupt "scientists" who were in bed with the policy makers. From the get go, real scientists have known that not only is saturated fat an obligate requirement for human health, it is one of the most powerful anti-oxidants
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    But if it's not saturated fat and certainly not processed carbs making people fat then...ow wait..must be you're not exercising enough
    -Food industry
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    Originally Posted by Mrpb View Post
    They are controversial. Didn't you read post #5?
    Yuss. I was moreso pointing out that it seems like every post in this thread is in contrast to the previous post.

    So I guess it seems it's all about taste (literally) plus choosing different sources for macro consumption... btw poverty reps for all who helped.
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    Originally Posted by DolphinPilot View Post
    Yuss. I was moreso pointing out that it seems like every post in this thread is in contrast to the previous post.
    Well it's an ongoing debate even for the scientists.

    And as I said, you're on bodybuilding.com, not on longevity.com. Many habits of bodybuilders aren't really aimed at living to be 100.
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