Keto / complete stall for 6 months! COACHING`?

[eraser51]

Last try on this body issue... really...

included statistics below...

anyone got a good personal coach?
maybe money will help already put enough of it in it... damm you body...
no clue anymore... more kcal more weight loss.. then stall.. then back to start... wtf...

tried it ALL and really sick of it.. any one advice and a COACH?!



https://www.dropbox.com/s/ah99qme3f7...June.xlsm?dl=0


http://www.myfitnesspal.com/de/food/diary/eraser51


http://s270.photobucket.com/user/eraser51/library/

[repower]

Last try on this body issue... really...

included statistics below...

anyone got a good personal coach?
maybe money will help already put enough of it in it... damm you body...
no clue anymore... more kcal more weight loss.. then stall.. then back to start... wtf...

tried it ALL and really sick of it.. any one advice and a COACH?!



https://www.dropbox.com/s/ah99qme3f7...June.xlsm?dl=0


http://www.myfitnesspal.com/de/food/diary/eraser51


http://s270.photobucket.com/user/eraser51/library/

I couldn't load the dropbox exactly. I saw MFP and the images in PB.

How many calories are you shooting for right now? Your calories sometimes varies during the week. How many times are you training? Which are the macros that you aim daily? More data would help.

[eraser51]

hmm dropbox link works

macros usually are
200-220 protein
100-150 fat

2000-2200kcal

training 3x a week (weight lifting)
1x yoga for flexiblility


guess most data is in the links

[repower]

hmm dropbox link works

macros usually are
200-220 protein
100-150 fat

2000-2200kcal

training 3x a week (weight lifting)
1x yoga for flexiblility


guess most data is in the links

If you ask me, for trying ketogenic diet, protein is far too high (for ketosis), maybe you're in, but maybe not. If you stall with your weight loss, really stall, you've to increase your activity or decrease your calories. I would opt for the first option since your activity isn't that high. I hope this help you. Post any doubt.

[mattward1979]

If you ask me, for trying ketogenic diet, protein is far too high (for ketosis), maybe you're in, but maybe not. If you stall with your weight loss, really stall, you've to increase your activity or decrease your calories. I would opt for the first option since your activity isn't that high. I hope this help you. Post any doubt.

I don't think the issue here is Keto vs carb, but just to add to the discussion..

I recently found that doing a 600 cal per day fast with 50/50 f/p was slower to induce ketosis than a 2k cal per day 30/65/5 p/f/c split.

All in all, it doesn't matter as net calories is king, but I thought I would share, as I would always obsess about being "in" or "out", and in reality its not that big of a deal unless you find one approach gives you the edge on limiting cals inbound.

[repower]

I don't think the issue here is Keto vs carb, but just to add to the discussion..

I recently found that doing a 600 cal per day fast with 50/50 f/p was slower to induce ketosis than a 2k cal per day 30/65/5 p/f/c split.

All in all, it doesn't matter as net calories is king, but I thought I would share, as I would always obsess about being "in" or "out", and in reality its not that big of a deal unless you find one approach gives you the edge on limiting cals inbound.

Net calories, as you say, is king. But, in my experience, I find that I can consume more calories being in ketosis. I don't know exactly the reason really, but that was the reason that I pointed that.

[eraser51]

for me 3x a week is really high

ketosis isnt necessary for weight loss I thought?
also the ratio?
what gives?

http://www.reddit.com/r/ketogains/wi...weight_loss.3F


http://highsteaks.com/forum/health-n...sis-673.0.html

http://www.ketotic.org/2012/08/if-yo...s-it-turn.html

[eraser51]

does anyone have experiences with CBL or refeeds?

maybe this will help metabolism!?

any ideas.. still nothing here...

[Mrpb]

Why exactly are you doing keto?

I mean if it's working for you, great! But that doesn't seem to be the case.

Ketogenic diets have no proven benefits over diets that include carbs. Some people do better without carbs, some people do better with.

Same goes for Carb Back Loading. There's no evidence that it's any better than eating your carbs when you prefer. But some people do great on it.

If you're 100% sure your calorie counting is accurate, includes everything and everything is weighed, you can eat less, move more or both.

I suggest you start eating 2000 calories consistently and try to move around more, go for walks etc. Being sedentary most of the time is not a healthy habit.

If you like carbs start eating them when you prefer. As long as it fits your calories you're good.

[JerryB]

Why exactly are you doing keto?

I mean if it's working for you, great! But that doesn't seem to be the case.

Ketogenic diets have no proven benefits over diets that include carbs. Some people do better without carbs, some people do better with.

Same goes for Carb Back Loading. There's no evidence that it's any better than eating your carbs when you prefer. But some people do great on it.

If you're 100% sure your calorie counting is accurate, includes everything and everything is weighed, you can eat less, move more or both.

I suggest you start eating 2000 calories consistently and try to move around more, go for walks etc. Being sedentary most of the time is not a healthy habit.

If you like carbs start eating them when you prefer. As long as it fits your calories you're good.

One advantage of the keto diet is the lack of feeling hungry during a caloric diet deficit you may feel periodically. Thus the motivational to continue the diet is higher. The feeling of satiety is attribute to the high fat contain contributing to satiety. The obvious issue is to adjust the caloric intake to a deficit in relationship to the total daily energy expenditure for a reduction in body fat. Physical activity will enhance caloric requirements.

The about has been the experience of myself and others on the keto diet.

[Mrpb]

One advantage of the keto diet is the lack of feeling hungry during a caloric diet deficit you may feel periodically. Thus the motivational to continue the diet is higher. The feeling of satiety is attribute to the high fat contain contributing to satiety. The obvious issue is to adjust the caloric intake to a deficit in relationship to the total daily energy expenditure for a reduction in body fat. Physical activity will enhance caloric requirements.

The about has been the experience of myself and others on the keto diet.

Agreed, I left that out. I have the same feeling of satiety when I'm on keto.

This is backed up by science too: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...obr.12230/epdf

[JerryB]

Agreed, I left that out. I have the same feeling of satiety when I'm on keto.

This is backed up by science too: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...obr.12230/epdf

I appreciate the study. I will add it to my library of information.
Thanks, that's better than my anecdotal comment.

[eraser51]

mostly I reversed my insulin resistance with it

but question is.. should I add carbs?
if yes how? how much? which period?
how often to refeed? which quantity?

or does someone has more infos about keto, IR and carbs?

[Mrpb]

mostly I reversed my insulin resistance with it

but question is.. should I add carbs?
if yes how? how much? which period?
how often to refeed? which quantity?

Try eating 2000 calories and see if that makes the scale move again. If not, take a diet break of at least a week = eating at maintenance.

If you prefer keto you do keto. If you prefer carbs start eating them when you prefer. As long as it fits your calories you're good.

There's no best time to eat carbs. Some prefer in the morning, some at night. Whatever works for you.