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    Suffering from ED? Food or other things the issue?

    I'm 24 eating about 3.5-3.8k calories a day depending on how often I add cardio into my week. Been bodybuilding for 4-5 months went from 130-165. I have suffered from ED for 3 years. (erectile dysfunction sorry for not clarifying.) I wish I had an eating disorder instead . _ .

    Diet usually consists of:

    Spinach, strawberries, mango, pineapple, 3 x protein shake daily, milk, dextrose with PWO shake, occassionally cheese sticks, beef sticks, oats, eggs, brown rice, beans, tree nuts, peanut butter

    ETC. pretty bland nothing too exciting in my attempts to reach 3.5-3.8k I will eat out for a meal during the day.

    I take supplement wise:

    Animal Pak

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    considering to discontinue most supplements to see if it helps.

    I got a physical during the first time I encountered the problem and my test was high 600's ( I didnt work out then, so I would suspect this to be higher? ). I plan to get another physical soon but am curious if anybody here can identify an issue with my diet and or reasoning for my ED?
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    There is a thread for EDs stickied at the top of the Nutrition forum.
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    you didnt mention what sort of ED you have/had
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    Originally Posted by determined4000 View Post
    you didnt mention what sort of ED you have/had
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    I do not see any issues you may have, other than gaining a lot of weight really fast.
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    ^ Guys, this MAY or MAY NOT be the one exception where the term "Eating Disorder" doesn't apply to "ED" and OP is actually meaning "Erectile Dysfunction" (notice how he makes mention of test levels).
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    Regardless of whatever you're suffering from, posters on an internet forum aren't going to give you an accurate diagnosis. If you think you need professional advice, I really recommend getting it from a professional OP.
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    Originally Posted by jollyman3745 View Post
    I'm 24 eating about 3.5-3.8k calories a day depending on how often I add cardio into my week. Been bodybuilding for 4-5 months went from 130-165. I have suffered from ED for 3 years.
    It seems like your diet is in check, you're consistently gaining weight.... What makes you think you have an ED now?
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    ED can also mean erectyle disfunction guys..


    OP at your age this problem is generally a psychological one.
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    At the same time OP diet seems to revolve around protein shakes, depending what they contains it could be bad for test due to low amount of certain nutrients: zinc and even fats comes to mind. Also too high in proteins diets can hinder t production, I doubt it's the case but it's not impossible.
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    Originally Posted by Follix View Post
    At the same time OP diet seems to revolve around protein shakes, depending what they contains it could be bad for test due to low amount of certain nutrients: zinc and even fats comes to mind. Also too high in proteins diets can hinder t production, I doubt it's the case but it's not impossible.
    lol at thinking this has anything to do with T levels

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    Originally Posted by MichielN View Post
    lol at thinking this has anything to do with T levels

    pls go
    I respect your knowledge which are higher than mines but I still doubt a diet mainly composed of protein shakes which can easily lead to deficiencies is optimal for general health.

    I mean if 90% of the caloric intake of the guy is milk and protein powder, there are gonna be consequences.
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    Originally Posted by Follix View Post
    I respect your knowledge which are higher than mines but I still doubt a diet mainly composed of protein shakes which can easily lead to deficiencies is optimal for general health.

    I mean if 90% of the caloric intake of the guy is milk and protein powder, there are gonna be consequences.
    I'll add more lean meats and try to add more diversity to my veggies this is more a recent trend with my food than an earlier one. To further explain my situation maybe it is mental but I struggle to even get hard by myself and even harder time when with this girl. The weird thing is it all started happening again when I started talking to this girl I liked. But when I had sex in the last year I could have it no problem with a girl I didn't love. So, it's mental then if I can't have it with somebody I am actually in love with? But if that is true even when I had sex with the girl I did not like I could only really get hard if she would give me oral and the girl I love is not going to do that so not sure what to do. I also do not get morning wood for a long period of time, which has me believing there are some physical attributes to my ed.
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    Should I practice by having the other girl stimulate me with her hands and such? She said she would help me practice to see if I can fix my situation I asked her if she could help me a couple times this week LOL it's awkward as hell but Im desperate.
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    Originally Posted by ErikTheElectric View Post
    ^ Guys, this MAY or MAY NOT be the one exception where the term "Eating Disorder" doesn't apply to "ED" and OP is actually meaning "Erectile Dysfunction" (notice how he makes mention of test levels).
    Exactly what I was thinking when I read the details in the post.

    @OP: I'm not an expert on that kind of ED, so I'd suggest seeing your doctor (or another specialist) to get their recommendations for treatment.
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    Originally Posted by ShyGuyXS View Post
    Exactly what I was thinking when I read the details in the post.

    @OP: I'm not an expert on that kind of ED, so I'd suggest seeing your doctor (or another specialist) to get their recommendations for treatment.
    My doctor is in jail atm I would have went for a physical from him but I'm going to find a new doctor tomorrow and get tested this week for test levels, diabetes (very unlikely), and a physical. Then I plan on seeing a urologist although in the past when I saw a urologist he was an ******* and told me to get out because I was too young to experience issues. Hopefully I'll find one who will actually hear me out.
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    Originally Posted by jollyman3745 View Post
    I'm 24 eating about 3.5-3.8k calories a day depending on how often I add cardio into my week. Been bodybuilding for 4-5 months went from 130-165. I have suffered from ED for 3 years. (erectile dysfunction sorry for not clarifying.) I wish I had an eating disorder instead . _ .
    No you don't an eating disorder often lead to erectile dysfunction and much worst problems.

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    But if that is true even when I had sex with the girl I did not like I could only really get hard if she would give me oral and the girl I love is not going to do that so not sure what to do. I also do not get morning wood for a long period of time, which has me believing there are some physical attributes to my ed.
    It could be performance anxiety, also if your going to change your diet forget ''lean meat'' try a t-bone instead.
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    Jollyman, what are your daily macros? p/f/c

    How much saturated fat do you consume daily?
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    Try eating foods with citrulline in them that helps with ED... watermelon, etc.
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    Originally Posted by BRINGINGtheFURY View Post
    Try eating foods with citrulline in them that helps with ED... watermelon, etc.
    I'm taking citrulline malate? 6g on work out days and I'm in the gym 5-6 times a week (lower volume, higher frequency) and on top of that I will usually power walk every other day for 30 minutes.
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    Originally Posted by Mrpb View Post
    Jollyman, what are your daily macros? p/f/c

    How much saturated fat do you consume daily?
    Usually I aim for 1g protein per lb, 80-100g of fat 20-40 may be saturated most of fats come from nuts, peanut butter for me. If I get bad fats it's typically because I will go out and get something to fulfill my last 400 calories of the day since I have trouble eating that much food. On carbs I aim for 280-350. Not everything is perfect because I don't lay everything out but I suspect these are my typical ranges, which would appear to be appropriate. I aim for .5 gram of fat per lb but sometimes I go higher on the fat in an effort to reach end of day calories.
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    Originally Posted by ErikTheElectric View Post
    ^ Guys, this MAY or MAY NOT be the one exception where the term "Eating Disorder" doesn't apply to "ED" and OP is actually meaning "Erectile Dysfunction" (notice how he makes mention of test levels).
    Every time I walk into an ED thread, I always assume the OP means Erectile Dysfunction.

    I still can't seem to shake that one. Came into this thread expecting ED left satisfied. Wish I could offer some solid advice, OP, best I can say is that you may want to see your physician regarding this. While some of it can be related to diet, there can be other factors at play and it may be worth consulting your doctor about.
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    Originally Posted by jollyman3745 View Post
    Usually I aim for 1g protein per lb, 80-100g of fat 20-40 may be saturated most of fats come from nuts, peanut butter for me.
    Sounds like your diet is in check. I'm assuming you eat a variety of vegetables and fruit too, that pretty much rules out deficiencies.

    If I get bad fats it's typically because I will go out and get something to fulfill my last 400 calories of the day since I have trouble eating that much food.
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    Originally Posted by TypeNirvash View Post
    Every time I walk into an ED thread, I always assume the OP means Erectile Dysfunction.

    I still can't seem to shake that one. Came into this thread expecting ED left satisfied. Wish I could offer some solid advice, OP, best I can say is that you may want to see your physician regarding this. While some of it can be related to diet, there can be other factors at play and it may be worth consulting your doctor about.
    thanks

    I'm not sure if it's relevant to mention or not but when I was 11 I sustained upper and lower back damage and I previously suspected my nerves may had taken damage but I had my nerves tested years ago and everything appeared to be fine. So, I've looked at several ways to attack... hopefully the doctor can figure something out because if it's mental then I'm screwed because that doesn't seem like an easy fix lol. But like I said how can it only be mental if I could only get hard from oral with that one chick and lack of morning wood would be physical would it not? Thanks everyone for trying to give me insight / offer advice I will keep this updated as I go to doctors and what not unfortunately as I said I need to find a new doctor tomorrow and schedule an appointment then after results come back see a urologist. I suspect this process would take a solid 2-3 weeks. The girl is still kind of willing to help me try to stimulate me by using her hands but she's double thinking it now because she isn't content with how things ended up when we stopped talking. SO I'm going to try to convince her as odd as it sounds.
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    Originally Posted by Mrpb View Post
    Sounds like your diet is incheck. I'm assuming you eat a variety of vegetables and fruit too, that pretty much rules out any deficiencies.



    The only bad fats are industrial trans fats.
    At this point I've really only been eating spinach consistently but I will look to get other veggies in my diet. Mostly spinach, broccoli, cauliflower interest me. I almost wonder if animal pak is the issue but when I look at all the ingredients nearly all of them would actually promote erections and I wasnt using animal pak back in the day, so I don't know?
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    Originally Posted by Mrpb View Post
    Sounds like your diet is incheck. I'm assuming you eat a variety of vegetables and fruit too, that pretty much rules out any deficiencies.



    The only bad fats are industrial trans fats.
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    Originally Posted by jollyman3745 View Post
    thanks

    I'm not sure if it's relevant to mention or not but when I was 11 I sustained upper and lower back damage and I previously suspected my nerves may had taken damage but I had my nerves tested years ago and everything appeared to be fine. So, I've looked at several ways to attack... hopefully the doctor can figure something out because if it's mental then I'm screwed because that doesn't seem like an easy fix lol. But like I said how can it only be mental if I could only get hard from oral with that one chick and lack of morning wood would be physical would it not? Thanks everyone for trying to give me insight / offer advice I will keep this updated as I go to doctors and what not unfortunately as I said I need to find a new doctor tomorrow and schedule an appointment then after results come back see a urologist. I suspect this process would take a solid 2-3 weeks. The girl is still kind of willing to help me try to stimulate me by using her hands but she's double thinking it now because she isn't content with how things ended up when we stopped talking. SO I'm going to try to convince her as odd as it sounds.
    Definitely keep the thread updated with results from the doctor. A urologist should be able to help you figure things out. Injuries from the past could have an effect on this, but I'm no expert.

    Good luck, OP! I'm hoping for the best!

    Originally Posted by jollyman3745 View Post
    At this point I've really only been eating spinach consistently but I will look to get other veggies in my diet. Mostly spinach, broccoli, cauliflower interest me. I almost wonder if animal pak is the issue but when I look at all the ingredients nearly all of them would actually promote erections and I wasnt using animal pak back in the day, so I don't know?
    Doesn't the Pak have Yohimbe in it?

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    If it is mental, though, there are a myriad of ways to tackle the issue.
    It if's physical, your doctor will definitely be able to help.

    There's hope, OP!
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    Originally Posted by TypeNirvash View Post
    This!



    Definitely keep the thread updated with results from the doctor. A urologist should be able to help you figure things out. Injuries from the past could have an effect on this, but I'm no expert.

    Good luck, OP! I'm hoping for the best!



    Doesn't the Pak have Yohimbe in it?

    EDIT:

    If it is mental, though, there are a myriad of ways to tackle the issue.
    It if's physical, your doctor will definitely be able to help.

    There's hope, OP!
    If it does I didn't see it when I looked. I know that actually can help promote erections in people but has a long list of serious side effects. Maybe I'll try a different multi but like I said I'm going to stop using it for now to do process of elimination.
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    Originally Posted by TypeNirvash View Post
    Every time I walk into an ED thread, I always assume the OP means Erectile Dysfunction.

    I still can't seem to shake that one. Came into this thread expecting ED left satisfied. Wish I could offer some solid advice, OP, best I can say is that you may want to see your physician regarding this. While some of it can be related to diet, there can be other factors at play and it may be worth consulting your doctor about.
    lol I always assume the opposite.
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    Originally Posted by jollyman3745 View Post
    At this point I've really only been eating spinach consistently but I will look to get other veggies in my diet.
    That doesn't sound too good. On www.cronometer.com you can see if your diet is covering most micronutrients. A multi is a nice insurance to fill in some holes, but it shouldn't be a replacement.

    That being said, if you eat a lot of food it can cover micronutrient needs pretty well, even if you eat little vegetables.

    I almost wonder if animal pak is the issue but when I look at all the ingredients nearly all of them would actually promote erections and I wasnt using animal pak back in the day, so I don't know?
    Try it. I'd also skip on the beta alanine for a while.
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    Originally Posted by Follix View Post
    I respect your knowledge which are higher than mines but I still doubt a diet mainly composed of protein shakes which can easily lead to deficiencies is optimal for general health.

    I mean if 90% of the caloric intake of the guy is milk and protein powder, there are gonna be consequences.
    Maybe, but that won't be causing erectile dysfunction at a young age.

    Obviously OP should try and eat healthy, but that won't tackle his problem.
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    UPDATE

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    Quit taking beta alanine Down from 4-5g daily
    Quit drinking coffee Down from 1-2 cups daily
    Reduced creatine to 3g daily Down from 5g
    Taking 1 pack of animal pack daily instead of recommended 2.
    Increased veggie intake etc.
    Friend is willing to stimulate me with her hands to see if she can get me up (sometime next week)
    seeing physician 9th of june to test blood / second opinion
    seeing urologist 15th of june

    Went to men's health clinic felt doctor was just trying to push pills on me gave me some cialis etc. but I don't plan on using it. They tested my blood and my testosterone came back at 230ish down from 650 back 3 years ago. That's a dramatic decrease I almost don't believe that because they want to start me on testosterone therapy I don't know if they could be bull****ing these results but I am going to see a urologist on the 15th to get a second opinion before I decide to actually go with that sort of therapy or figure out why my test is so low and find alternatives. To my knowledge I do not over train in the gym.

    I do less volume more frequency for instance a standard week for me could be hitting each muscle group twice with 2-4 exercises per muscle group If anybody is down to look at my routine in a PM and see if I am over training I would appreciate that but as of right now low testosterone could make sense as I do not wake up with morning wood, have weak erections, low libido although I'm still unsure how I feel about the men's health clinic, so as previously stated I will get another opinion. The wait is just the problem. Waiting until the 15th and then waiting for blood tests after that sucks. We shall see and as always will keep you all informed ty thus far hopefully I can figure this **** out.
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