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12-29-2015, 07:36 PM #1321
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12-29-2015, 07:57 PM #1322
Ya I am in a mid sized Midwestern city which has a really low COL so my salary numbers are low especially compared to NYC area. I think there is a ton of value in being a jack of all trades sysadmin type and those type of jobs are actually quite fun since there is a lot of variability. It just seems to me though that the sysadmin type rolls are normally underpaid and certainly under appreciated, both internally and externally in the job hunt. Plus I was mainly talking about jobs and roles if your main goal is to get to consulting.
As to the education piece, believe me, I don't agree with the needing college thing but it seems that a lot places require it to even get your resume looked at so if you have the chance to get a degree of some sort I would too it. With that said, IT has to be the most friendly high paying job out there to people without degrees. Work experience + talent + certs(and I'm not a certs guy) can have you a very nice career.
I'm not a big fan of certs, but I have been casually studying for the CISSP for a couple months and will ratchet that up and take it this spring. Most high level security jobs seem like they require or at least strongly prefer candidates with it so I figure why the hell not.
No clue on DB certs but I'd look at something in the NoSQL family like MongoDB or something as that stuff is really hot and up and coming. Otherwise Oracle and MSSQL isn't going away any time soon so stuff around those would work too.
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12-29-2015, 08:19 PM #1323
Sup brahs. First time posting in this thread - Thanks to all that have discussed things. Recently graduated with a bachelor's in MIS and this thread has given me a lot of useful info that I didn't get in school.
I have a phone interview tomorrow for a junior systems administrator role in a fairly large company. Any interview tips you guys could share? This is my first career related interview so far and I (obviously) would like to be as prepared as possible.***Georgia crew***
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12-30-2015, 04:32 AM #1324
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They will probably ask you your experience with whatever systems you'll be administering. If you have any IT experience on your resume, then be prepared to explain your daily routine while you were in that role. Lastly they might give you a scenario and they want to see how you will respond. Interviews vary greatly but stay calm and composed which isnt too hard to do since it's over the phone.
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12-30-2015, 05:41 AM #1325
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Another brah who posted in this thread suggested that you don't sit while you interview. It'll make you antsy.
If you're home put on the clothes you're most comfortable in and stand/walk around while you're interviewing. I guarantee you you'll feel more comfortable and the interview will go really well.
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12-30-2015, 02:19 PM #1326
Does anyone else feel like quitting their job and starting their own IT business some days?
I get paid well at my current job (just outside 6 figures) but my heart and head just won't shut up about going out on my own.“We pay too much tribute to a few human insects when we let their wrong-doing paralyze our faith in humanity. It is a lie of the cynics that says ‘all men are ungrateful,’ a companion lie to ‘all men have their price.’ We must trust humanity if we would get good from humanity. He who thinks all mankind is vile is a pessimist who mistakes his introspection for observation; he looks into his own heart and thinks he sees the world.”
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12-30-2015, 04:38 PM #1327
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12-30-2015, 09:46 PM #1328
Anybody a contractor that works on a "permanent" contract and renegotiated your pay at some point? I'll be coming on a year pretty soon at my current job and I've gotten certs, became a team lead, will have my degree and my current position has taken on responsibilities outside the scope of the original job description. I have also gotten stellar performance evals. I figured this would be a good basis for renegotiating my pay to hold me over until a promotion. Would like your experience from somebody who has done this or been in a similar situation.
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12-31-2015, 07:52 AM #1329
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Brahs in this thread with a bachelors degree or greater or are hiring managers, I have a question for you. Does it really matter from what school you get your bachelors from?
I've narrowed done my list of schools to 4 and after some research of these 4 schools, they will let me finish finish as fast as possible ie within 2 years or less. I already have an associates so I think i'll be able to graduate within 1.5 years. My goal is to come out with as little debt as possible.
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12-31-2015, 07:59 AM #1330
Rule of thumb for decisions like this is to go with the best school you can afford. If you can afford an Ivy league school go for that. Here in STL we have Washington University and St. Louis University as the best two schools but they are the most expensive ones here as well. Of course being in huge debt after graduating is not being able to afford the school either. ROI
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12-31-2015, 08:43 AM #1331
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12-31-2015, 10:43 AM #1332
I've always been told it doesn't really matter unless it's some prestigious school and you're in a highly competitive situation. Simply list on your resume/application "BS - Information Systems" or whatever and if they care about the school, they'll ask where you got it from.
I'm just gonna do WGU since the BS will transfer to a masters program and the masters degree will be from a bigger name than WGU. Just a stepping stone really and it's so cheap compared to the local B&M I'll walk away without debt, not to mention they pay for certs and the flexibility of all online. I think the most important thing is if at all, having a bs from an accredited school will matter more than one of those throwaway tech programs or degree factories.
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12-31-2015, 11:27 AM #1333
First off, as a hiring manager, if it was 100% up to me I wouldn't even require a degree of any sort for any job. With that said some people higher up make it a blanket requirement for employment. If that is the case then any resumes I get sent to me I know have already been screened by HR to meet minimum requirements and I either don't look at their education or take a cursory glance. If I saw Harvard, Yale, Stanford etc.. I would be like, whoa, impressive but also be like wtf is this guy doing in day to day IT. To the best of my knowledge, college has never even been discussed aloud in the 30 or 40 hiring processes I have been involved in. I'd say as long as it is an accredited institution then you are good to go.
General hiring process info(N=1) - the Cover Letter is the most important part. A great cover letter almost guarantees you an initial interview(as does a great resume though). Amazing how many people leave out a cover letter which is your #1 way to differentiate yourself from the 178 other applications I have on my desk.
For interviews I basically ask one question and go from there. Entry level jobs - Tell me about something cool you have done recently with technology. Mid-level/Senior - Teach/explain a IT skill/concept to me. I hire based on Passion/Excitment/Social Skills, I can teach and you can learn anything that is needed as long as you are willing to put in the work to learn.Last edited by jimbong; 12-31-2015 at 11:34 AM.
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01-04-2016, 09:02 AM #1334
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sup brahs...wanted to ask about salary negotiations...
After spending a month sending in my resume I finally got a call back and interviewed
Now they want a 2nd interview and have ask what salary I'm looking for...now this is a problem
After a month of sending in my resume I finally got a call back and went in for an interviewed. I think it went great, but now they want to know what to know what salary i'm looking for...
- This is for an information security analyst position to which I have 0 experience in this field (small company)
- Would around 45-50k be a decent starting salary for someone with 0 experience?- I'm sorry; I couldn't hear your complaints over the sound of all this freedom!
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01-04-2016, 09:13 AM #1335
If you have 0 experience in general, I'm curious how you got a 2nd interview for a InfoSec position. I think for an entry-level security position that's fair. Your best bet would be to Google the salary for that job title in your area. Tell them based on the title, you want this much.
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01-04-2016, 09:24 AM #1336
General advice is to avoid answering that question until you have to. When I have been forced to say a number I always add about 20% to what I really want. You can play it safe and give a range..so I'd say 50-65k or something like that. If they like you they aren't going to just drop you because your salary request is a big high. Check glass-door for salaries of similar positions. It is also my experience that smaller companies will pay a bit less but your soft benefits will be much better than a large company.
In my last job hunt I was throwing out numbers that were hard for me to keep a straight face when I said them. The company who's job offer I untimely accepted, the hiring manager literally laughed in my face when I told him my first number (a 200% raise over my previous pay, lol). But then he said no really and I threw out a lower number that was still a ridiculous raise for me but somewhat in line with what other positions seemed to pay and we settled on a number a bit above that.
So, don't be afraid to aim high, it is much harder to get a raise once you are working and they have you locked in.
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01-04-2016, 09:44 AM #1337
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Google and glassdoor are give me $75-95 in my area, but with 0 experience I think I'm shooting myself in the foot if I even ask for that.
- I was actually surprised myself. Even though this in entry level I was the only "young" person in the waiting room. But I feel I killed the 1st interview. I hit all the tech questions (studied the fawk out of the duties for the position) and got them loling a lot.
- Also I think they are willing to take a chance, mainly due to them being able to pay me less. But since I have no experience I'm on a "take whatever I can mentality"...this would be a whole lot better then working help desk.- I'm sorry; I couldn't hear your complaints over the sound of all this freedom!
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01-05-2016, 07:57 AM #1338
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For the sake of your sanity, I highly recommend that you all DO NOT implement RTs in your environment. These things are a pita to administer.
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01-05-2016, 09:37 AM #1339
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01-05-2016, 09:37 AM #1340
would anyone be willing to take a peek at my resume, i figure in the past 250 resumes ive sent. Received 6 calls. 3 Ended after first call, 1 failed technical exam (for the job i wanted argh), 2 job offers but 90+ mins away. I have no degree and only 9 months exp desktop support along with A+ cert. Would this sound about right pace or does my resume need work? reps
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01-05-2016, 09:50 AM #1341
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01-05-2016, 01:02 PM #1342
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01-05-2016, 02:19 PM #1343
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01-05-2016, 03:10 PM #1344
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I have about 10 years of project management experience. I have worked in IT for 15 years. The A+ was a requirement for WGU as well as the Project+. I have already submitted and had my PMP application approved. There is a program through the VA that will pay for your PMP and they paid for my PMI membership as well as the exam fee. If any vets want additional info, send me a PM. I went through a program at Syracuse to get my CISSP that was free too.
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01-05-2016, 03:19 PM #1345
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01-05-2016, 03:29 PM #1346
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I am taking the BS-IT Network admin. Tuition is $3500 a six month semester. They want you to do about 18 CUs per semester which is pretty easy. The A+ cert got me 8 CUs. Its all competency based so you can do it at your own pace. I had 3 years that I transferred in from UMASS but they only gave me 69 credits. I hope to be done by October. PM me if your email address if you want a referral, they will waive the application fee and I will get an Amazon gift card.
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01-05-2016, 03:46 PM #1347
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01-05-2016, 04:44 PM #1348
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01-05-2016, 07:19 PM #1349
What kind of useful or good apps are you fellas using for your phone i have a Iphone, i just got outlook its pretty legit i have cloud magic as well to change it up.
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01-06-2016, 05:45 AM #1350
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I have an android, but these apps should also be on the Iphone app store.
Es File Explorer - Access my home file server from my phone
VNC - RDP into my computers/VMs while on LAN
Teamviewer - RDP into my compters/VMs on WAN or LAN
JuiceSSH - SSH into my servers or networking devices
Fing - Network mapper
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