does anyone buy supplements individually in bulk then mix it together themselves?
what do you find the best nootropics are to throw into a preworkout?
kind of want to to do a dmaa,caffeine,l citt., PEA,
would it be cheaper to just buy already made ones in the long run?
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05-22-2015, 08:30 AM #1
does anyone buy in bulk/make your own
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05-22-2015, 08:48 AM #2
I find its cheaper to buy in bulk if you buy the largest sizes (1kg or larger of most powders, lot less for the nootropics and such).
I do l citt, alcar, BA, creatine, choline, TMG, and PA all in bulk.
It's easier to buff an existing PWO if it doesn't have the dose you want or add it to a product that isn't a PWO (crystal light, gatorade, etc)Bench : 225 x 1 ~ Squat 285 x 1 ~ Deadlift: 315 x 3 ~ Incline Leg Press: 665 x 3
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05-22-2015, 10:49 AM #3
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05-22-2015, 11:29 AM #4
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05-22-2015, 11:35 AM #5
Pretty lazy and bulks don't always mean cheaper, depends what it is really.
Have added up bulk costs in huge amounts and come out near even in some cases - when it comes to pre workout's I am lazy and strongly prefer the convenience of a non-stim or stim pre and just add whatever I want additional.
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05-22-2015, 02:39 PM #6
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05-22-2015, 03:51 PM #7Bench : 225 x 1 ~ Squat 285 x 1 ~ Deadlift: 315 x 3 ~ Incline Leg Press: 665 x 3
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05-22-2015, 04:07 PM #8
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05-22-2015, 05:32 PM #12
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05-22-2015, 07:43 PM #13
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05-22-2015, 09:22 PM #14
I mix my own preworkout and I can say I think it's cheaper to buy in bulk indefinitely. Yes it'll cost more upfront but you can tweak the dosages of the supplements(helpful when dealing with pre IMO) and more importantly the powders, capsules, tablets etc. will last much longer than the usual month supply. Making it cheaper in the long run in my experience
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05-22-2015, 09:35 PM #15
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05-23-2015, 08:04 AM #16
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05-23-2015, 09:25 AM #17
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05-23-2015, 11:37 AM #18
I make my own that is probably about as expensive as a fully dosed pre such as PRE JYM when I dose it fully, but I get the goodies I want and full doses of everything. I also don't include every ingredient for every workout, limit stims mostly for intense workouts. Cost really depends on what you put into your pre, but it could be way cheaper in the long run. 8 g cit mal, 300 mg caffeine, 1 g beetroot extract, 3.2g BA would be a decent simple pre that would cost about 60 cents per serving if you buy all ingredients in bulk.
As far as additional noots go, phenylpiracetam at 150 mg is awesome when combined with 300 mg caffeine and 600 mg alpha gpc. Phenyl provides a boost that is less intense than caffeine but much more intense than ALCAR in my experience. The GPC is needed to prevent headaces associated with phenyl usage and there was a small study a couple years back that found it could boost muscle force as well. I get awesome workouts and feel borderline high when I use this stack, but I know others don't get as good results from it. This is pretty expensive though (you are looking at around 25 cents for the phenyl and 60 cents for the GPC per serving) and you need to limit phenyl to once every 5 days or so to prevent tolerance build up. Phenyl also tastes like garbage, I mean like SERIOUSLY bad. You can't mask it with crystal lite like you can most other bulks. I usually wrap it in a piece of single ply toilet paper to even be able to swallow it.
ALCAR is a simple addition that will give a mild boost (I use 1.5 g) but it isn't nearly as effective as caffeine or phenyl in my experience. Pretty cheap at 10-12 cents per serving. If your looking for cost to benefit ratio caffeine is really best though at around 2 cents per serving.
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