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    does anyone buy in bulk/make your own

    does anyone buy supplements individually in bulk then mix it together themselves?

    what do you find the best nootropics are to throw into a preworkout?

    kind of want to to do a dmaa,caffeine,l citt., PEA,

    would it be cheaper to just buy already made ones in the long run?
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    Originally Posted by ultramario17 View Post
    does anyone buy supplements individually in bulk then mix it together themselves?

    what do you find the best nootropics are to throw into a preworkout?

    kind of want to to do a dmaa,caffeine,l citt., PEA,

    would it be cheaper to just buy already made ones in the long run?
    I find its cheaper to buy in bulk if you buy the largest sizes (1kg or larger of most powders, lot less for the nootropics and such).

    I do l citt, alcar, BA, creatine, choline, TMG, and PA all in bulk.

    It's easier to buff an existing PWO if it doesn't have the dose you want or add it to a product that isn't a PWO (crystal light, gatorade, etc)
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    Bulks are definitely cheaper if you buy the large sizes in the long run. It is easy to make up the dosage if a pre packaged product is lacking the proper dose of an ingredient as well.
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    Originally Posted by ultramario17 View Post
    does anyone buy supplements individually in bulk then mix it together themselves?

    what do you find the best nootropics are to throw into a preworkout?

    kind of want to to do a dmaa,caffeine,l citt., PEA,

    would it be cheaper to just buy already made ones in the long run?

    usually for me...bulks that add more pumps ----> nitrates, citrulline, and/or agmatine.
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    Originally Posted by ultramario17 View Post
    does anyone buy supplements individually in bulk then mix it together themselves?

    what do you find the best nootropics are to throw into a preworkout?

    kind of want to to do a dmaa,caffeine,l citt., PEA,

    would it be cheaper to just buy already made ones in the long run?
    Pretty lazy and bulks don't always mean cheaper, depends what it is really.

    Have added up bulk costs in huge amounts and come out near even in some cases - when it comes to pre workout's I am lazy and strongly prefer the convenience of a non-stim or stim pre and just add whatever I want additional.

    Bulks I do have and use ALCAR, BA, Nitrates, GMS, Creatine, Cissus, Ephedrine, Yohimbine HCL and Forskolin not all of the time of course but depending what I am doing I will add stuff in.
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    Originally Posted by Rob1882 View Post
    Pretty lazy and bulks don't always mean cheaper, depends what it is really.

    Have added up bulk costs in huge amounts and come out near even in some cases - when it comes to pre workout's I am lazy and strongly prefer the convenience of a non-stim or stim pre and just add whatever I want additional.

    Bulks I do have and use ALCAR, BA, Nitrates, GMS, Creatine, Cissus, Ephedrine, Yohimbine HCL and Forskolin not all of the time of course but depending what I am doing I will add stuff in.
    ephedrine, from where.?
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    Originally Posted by ultramario17 View Post
    ephedrine, from where.?
    Lots of states you can just buy it anywhere, depends on where you are
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    I've bought bulk stuff, but that tends to sit in my cupboard, unused. I've got tubs of piracetam and choline I keep forgetting about.
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    I used to buy ingredients for pre workouts, but then we released High Volume, so that's unneeded now.

    Nootropic wise, Citicoline + ALCAR is a good pre workout stack.
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    ALCAR makes you lose hair follicles
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    anyone who's tried white chocolate my protein whey powder or their whey powder in general, what kind of chemical reactions are they trying to create with their product lool instant stinging around the skin
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    Originally Posted by blueflakes View Post
    anyone who's tried white chocolate my protein whey powder or their whey powder in general, what kind of chemical reactions are they trying to create with their product lool instant stinging around the skin
    Tell me more.....
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    ALCAR makes you lose hair follicles
    where'd you hear this? I was just about to suggest ALCAR too.
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    Originally Posted by ultramario17 View Post
    does anyone buy supplements individually in bulk then mix it together themselves?

    what do you find the best nootropics are to throw into a preworkout?

    kind of want to to do a dmaa,caffeine,l citt., PEA,

    would it be cheaper to just buy already made ones in the long run?
    I mix my own preworkout and I can say I think it's cheaper to buy in bulk indefinitely. Yes it'll cost more upfront but you can tweak the dosages of the supplements(helpful when dealing with pre IMO) and more importantly the powders, capsules, tablets etc. will last much longer than the usual month supply. Making it cheaper in the long run in my experience
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    ALCAR makes you lose hair follicles
    lol what? If anything, Carnitine (in LCLT form) makes hair follicles increase (in vitro)
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    Originally Posted by ultramario17 View Post
    does anyone buy supplements individually in bulk then mix it together themselves?

    what do you find the best nootropics are to throw into a preworkout?

    kind of want to to do a dmaa,caffeine,l citt., PEA,

    would it be cheaper to just buy already made ones in the long run?
    I buy bulk powders like beta alanine, citruline malate, agmatine and creatine since sometimes they are underdosed in preworkouts. As far as caffeine I prefer to buy it in capsules since it's easier to keep it dosed properly.
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    Originally Posted by aaronuconn View Post
    I used to buy ingredients for pre workouts, but then we released High Volume, so that's unneeded now.
    Same here^^^ I still have bulk tubs of CM, Agmatine and GMS but once I discovered High Volume and Hemavo2, I haven't needed to touch the bulk products...

    I usually have a bulk tub of creatine and tend to have bottle of caffeine tabs but that's about it
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    I make my own that is probably about as expensive as a fully dosed pre such as PRE JYM when I dose it fully, but I get the goodies I want and full doses of everything. I also don't include every ingredient for every workout, limit stims mostly for intense workouts. Cost really depends on what you put into your pre, but it could be way cheaper in the long run. 8 g cit mal, 300 mg caffeine, 1 g beetroot extract, 3.2g BA would be a decent simple pre that would cost about 60 cents per serving if you buy all ingredients in bulk.

    As far as additional noots go, phenylpiracetam at 150 mg is awesome when combined with 300 mg caffeine and 600 mg alpha gpc. Phenyl provides a boost that is less intense than caffeine but much more intense than ALCAR in my experience. The GPC is needed to prevent headaces associated with phenyl usage and there was a small study a couple years back that found it could boost muscle force as well. I get awesome workouts and feel borderline high when I use this stack, but I know others don't get as good results from it. This is pretty expensive though (you are looking at around 25 cents for the phenyl and 60 cents for the GPC per serving) and you need to limit phenyl to once every 5 days or so to prevent tolerance build up. Phenyl also tastes like garbage, I mean like SERIOUSLY bad. You can't mask it with crystal lite like you can most other bulks. I usually wrap it in a piece of single ply toilet paper to even be able to swallow it.

    ALCAR is a simple addition that will give a mild boost (I use 1.5 g) but it isn't nearly as effective as caffeine or phenyl in my experience. Pretty cheap at 10-12 cents per serving. If your looking for cost to benefit ratio caffeine is really best though at around 2 cents per serving.
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