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    Originally Posted by holtmcg View Post
    A fraction of what Republicans have done.
    Irrelevent bullsh*t claim. Are you truly this ignorant about current events, or just a partisan hack who can't admit reality?

    You claim to oppose our current health care laws, but only want to blame those who weren't involved in writing & passing those laws.

    Then you pretend to be pissed about our current Middle East involvement, while ignoring who's been running the U.S. military and foreign policy for the past six years - as those wars continued, expanded, and started new in other areas. (While also ignoring ALL the supporters in 2001 and 2002).

    When your only defense of failed policies is to claim "but someone else did worse!", then you have no defense.


    Why can't you simply admit you oppose the policies delivered by those with a (D) after their name, just as you admit opposition to the same (R) policies?
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    Irrelevent bullsh*t claim. Are you truly this ignorant, or just a partisan hack who can't admit reality?

    You pretend to be pissed about our current Middle East involvement, while ignoring who's been running the U.S. military and foreign policy for the past six years - as those wars continued, expanded, and started new in other areas. (While also ignoring ALL the supporters in 2001 and 2002).

    When your only defense of failed policies is to claim "but someone else did worse!", then you have no defense.
    Somebody else DID do worse. You trying to forget history or what?
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    Originally Posted by holtmcg View Post
    Somebody else DID do worse. You trying to forget history or what?
    The discussion is current events.

    Republicans didn't ram Obamacare down our throats, Democrats did.

    You can't claim to oppose Obamacare, then turn a blind eye to those who are solely responsible for its existence.

    Just as you can't claim to oppose our foreign policy & wars, then turn a blind eye to those who supported those wars, and those who created and implemented that policy & expanded those wars for the past 6 1/2 years.
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    The discussion is current events.

    Republicans didn't ram Obamacare down our throats, Democrats did.

    You can't claim to oppose Obamacare, then turn a blind eye to those who are solely responsible for its existence.
    Many have benefited from Obamacare. Everybody would benefit from a properly executed universal healthcare system. That's too much to ask for though because Republicans don't care about their fellow man.
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    Originally Posted by holtmcg View Post
    Many have benefited from Obamacare. Everybody would benefit from a properly executed universal healthcare system. That's too much to ask for though because Republicans don't care about their fellow man.
    Many have benefited, while many more are footing the bill.

    Obamacare is the opposite of Universal Health Care. So why do you refuse to criticize Democrats for their choice? REPUBLICANS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR CURRENT HEALTH CARE LAW!

    Why do you keep blaming Republicans for something they had no involvement with? Do you understand you're nothing more than an obvious partisan hack & apologist with every post?

    Democrats delivered the law you oppose, but they don't receive any criticism. So why are you even posting?
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    Obamacare is the opposite of Universal Health Care. So why do you refuse to criticize Democrats for their choice? REPUBLICANS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR CURRENT HEALTH CARE LAW!

    Why do you keep blaming Republicans for something they had no involvement with? Do you understand you're nothing more than an obvious partisan hack & apologist with every post?

    Democrats delivered the law you oppose, but they don't receive any criticism. So why are you even posting?
    I never said Republicans had to do anything with Obamacare. I'm simply stating Republicans hate their fellow man. Which is rather obvious. That's why they hate any sort of universal health care systems, even though our system is consistently ranked last in the developed world.
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    Originally Posted by holtmcg View Post
    Many have benefited from Obamacare. Everybody would benefit from a properly executed universal healthcare system. That's too much to ask for though because Republicans don't care about their fellow man.
    Democrats had the votes to get anything they wanted passed. And they chose obamacare. How are you blaming republicans for that? Also, dems don't care either. They just enjoy spending other people's money to make it look like they do. Neither team actually cares
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    Originally Posted by bking10 View Post
    Democrats had the votes to get anything they wanted passed. And they chose obamacare. How are you blaming republicans for that? Also, dems don't care either. They just enjoy spending other people's money to make it look like they do. Neither team actually cares
    We care about our fellow man. Republicans don't.
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    Originally Posted by holtmcg View Post
    I never said Republicans had to do anything with Obamacare. I'm simply stating Republicans hate their fellow man. Which is rather obvious. That's why they hate any sort of universal health care systems, even though our system is consistently ranked last in the developed world.
    The topic is current U.S. health care laws & Obamacare, a law solely delivered to us by Democrats. So why are you even bringing up Republicans, who had nothing to do with that law?

    Meanwhile, Democrats chose not to implement a Universal Health Care system, and you withhold all criticism. So what are you actually trying to say?

    Opposing UHC (Republican) = Bad, evil, horrible
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    Originally Posted by holtmcg View Post
    We care about our fellow man. Republicans don't.
    Then why didn't Democrats deliver UHC? How many times do you need to lie about Republicans, while ignoring Democrats?

    Can you address actual policy decisions, or will you just keep parroting the empty, baseless talking points which allow you to overlook Democrats failing to meet your own standards?
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    Still wondering if paying for people's bad health decisions will encourage them to make less or more bad decisions.
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    Originally Posted by holtmcg View Post
    We care about our fellow man. Republicans don't.

    Hahaha. What a bull**** copout. Better get racism and mysogynism in there, too! Trying to debate with Liberals is the worst.
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    Originally Posted by leakypipe23 View Post
    Hahaha. What a bull**** copout. Better get racism and mysogynism in there, too! Trying to debate with Liberals is the worst.
    It's not a cop out at all. It's proven than we are more compassionate than our counter part.


    Also, it's statistically proven that Republicans are more likely to be racist and misogynistic than liberals. You keep taking those Ls.
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    Originally Posted by holtmcg View Post
    It's not a cop out at all. It's proven than we are more compassionate than our counter part.
    Then why didn't Democrats choose to deliver UHC, and why can't you criticize them for that decision?

    You attack Republicans for your fictional claims, while ignoring what Democrats actually did. How does that make sense?
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    Originally Posted by holtmcg View Post
    It's not a cop out at all. It's proven than we are more compassionate than our counter part.


    Also, it's statistically proven that Republicans are more likely to be racist and misogynistic than liberals. You keep taking those Ls.
    Ah, there you go. When you position completely falls apart - just cry "Racism!". Because that doesn't make you look like a complete joke

    Derp - Democrats delivered a law I oppose, so let's accuse Republicans of being racist to distract from that pesky fact.
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    Hahaha. What a bull**** copout. Better get racism and mysogynism in there, too! Trying to debate with Liberals is the worst.
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    We care about our fellow man. Republicans don't.


    Probably the worst post in history of internet.



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    Originally Posted by Stizzel View Post
    Still wondering if paying for people's bad health decisions will encourage them to make less or more bad decisions.
    Is a sick child with pneumonia one of those who made a bad health decision?
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    Ah, there you go. When you position completely falls apart - just cry "Racism!". Because that doesn't make you look like a complete joke

    Derp - Democrats delivered a law I oppose, so let's accuse Republicans of being racist to distract from that pesky fact.
    I never cried racism. I simply said Republicans are more likely to be racist.
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    Holt isn't a liberal, he's a capitalist.
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    Originally Posted by ElrondHubbard View Post
    Is a sick child with pneumonia one of those who made a bad health decision?

    A sick child with pneumonia will be helped by people like you and me, well... just me actually... *cough*... you didn't donate still... *cough* BULL****! *cough*... Anyways, and a child like that always was helped by Libertarians like Ron Paul who treated such kids in his free time and even picked up the bill. You know very well that socialized healthcare is not the same thing as the sick dying child and people helping him.
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    I never cried racism. I simply said Republicans are more likely to be racist.
    A. That's in the running for dumbest post in this thread, which is a stunning accomplishment. Derp - being racist isn't racism.

    B. What does fictional Republican racism have to do with DEMOCRATS passing a law you don't like? A law you refuse to criticize DEMOCRATS for, while pretending Republicans are to blame for a law they didn't write and didn't vote for....
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    A. That's in the running for dumbest post in this thread, which is a stunning accomplishment. Derp - being racist isn't racism.

    B. What does fictional Republican racism have to do with DEMOCRATS passing a law you don't like? A law you refuse to criticize DEMOCRATS for, while pretending Republicans are to blame for a law they didn't write and didn't vote for....
    I'm not racist.
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    A sick child with pneumonia will be helped by people like you and me, well... just me actually... *cough*... you didn't donate still... *cough* BULL****! *cough*... Anyways, and a child like that always was helped by Libertarians like Ron Paul who treated such kids in his free time and even picked up the bill. You know very well that socialized healthcare is not the same thing as the sick dying child and people helping him.
    Lol, yes it is.
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    Originally Posted by ElrondHubbard View Post
    Is a sick child with pneumonia one of those who made a bad health decision?
    No. Hopefully there are no shortages or unreasonable costs in the care of that child's pneumonia because of people that did make bad choices.
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    Originally Posted by Stizzel View Post
    No. Hopefully there are no shortages or unreasonable costs in the care of that child's pneumonia because of people that did make bad choices.
    There's always that wish and a prayer...
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    Originally Posted by holtmcg View Post
    Lol, yes it is.

    Not true, unless all socialized medicine recipients are dying and would die without socialized medicine. Of course you now this to be false. The helping has to happen on personal level. Not by government theft. There are two donation threads in Misc to help give children medical care and to relief from Earthquake, how much did you contribute? Communists never give, it's a common trait.
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    Originally Posted by kusok View Post
    Not true, unless all socialized medicine recipients are dying and would die without socialized medicine. Of course you now this to be false. The helping has to happen on personal level. Not by government theft. There are two donation threads in Misc to help give children medical care and to relief from Earthquake, how much did you contribute? Communists never give, it's a common trait.
    I donated (srs)
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    Originally Posted by holtmcg View Post
    I donated (srs)
    I guess you are not a commie then. ;-)
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    Originally Posted by ElrondHubbard View Post
    There's always that wish and a prayer...
    Or, just stop being idiot socialists.
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