The Official Natty Thread - No Gear Talk - Moderated

[LaughingStorm]

A weight gain bet I made with DeadlyStriker a while back. Doubt if either of us will make it to 225 (or was it 220?) within the next three days, but if he's not around I still win by forfeit.

Inb4 DS shows up today weighing in at 226lbs.

Well you learned something. I have to say I'm surprised. This is Mod World.

Nah, I'll catch a ban again soon.

Better banned than pathetic and cowardly.

anyone in here have experience with running a 20rep squat program combined with a bulgarian of sorts?
I'm squatting for 20 reps for one set twice a week, and squatting my 5rm on M/W/F for 2 sets.
I find my legs are responding really darn well and I'm able to grind out reps pretty easily now, and my legs seem perma-pumped. I've added 15 pounds to my squat in 17 days so far (if I hit the 5 reps tomorrow, feel like I will idk). Anyone done squatting 5 days a week or 20rep programs? Experiences?

Doing 4x4 on squats and then following that with a 20 rep set to punish my lower back.

FeelsGoodMan. Chit should count as cardio.

[KRANE]

Inb4 DS shows up today weighing in at 226lbs.

As for the bet, I still maintain my IF regime so I'm not putting everything I've got into it. I could still have eaten more.

Nah, I'll catch a ban again soon.

Better banned than pathetic and cowardly.



Doing 4x4 on squats and then following that with a 20 rep set to punish my lower back.

FeelsGoodMan. Chit should count as cardio.

No grasshopper, history gets written by those that survive. If you're not around, no one will know or care. Tread circumspectly.

[LaughingStorm]

As for the bet, I still maintain my IF regime so I'm not putting everything I've got into it. I could still have eaten more.

Winning isn't everything. It is the only thing.

No grasshopper, history gets written by those that survive. If you're not around, no one will know or care. Tread circumspectly.

Nah, better to die on your feet than live on your knees.

[KRANE]

Winning isn't everything. It is the only thing.

That depends on what's at stake: As a businessman you can win the argument, but that won't have much consultation if your client walks out the door.

Nah, better to die on your feet than live on your knees.

That's the neophyte in you speaking. Hopefully more wisdom will come with age if you make it that far. But something tells me you already know that.

In fact, its better to choose the battles you can win. But it is possible to win the fight and still lose the battle.

[LaughingStorm]

That depends on what's at stake: As a businessman you can win the argument, but that won't have much consultation if your client walks out the door.

That's the neophyte in you speaking. Hopefully more wisdom will come with age if you make it that far. But something tells me you already know that.
In fact, its better to choose the battles you can win. But it is possible to win the fight and still lose the battle.

Choose battles? Nah.

Never back down, never surrender.

You know the code.

[KRANE]

Choose battles? Nah.

Only fools rush in.

Never back down, never surrender while you still have the means to fight.

Fixed

You know the code.

Above.

One more thing, stay down.

[LaughingStorm]

Only fools rush in.Fixed
Above.
One more thing, stay down.

Clearly we were brought up differently. Dangerous to be a punk in some places, becomes a full time gig.

[KRANE]

Clearly we were brought up differently. Dangerous to be a punk in some places, becomes a full time gig.

On the contrary, I think we agree much more than we disagree. I just have the wisdom of age to mitigate my impetuous nature.

[LIFTplusHOCKEY]

Doing 4x4 on squats and then following that with a 20 rep set to punish my lower back.

FeelsGoodMan. Chit should count as cardio.

damn, yea it seems like a good way to force your legs to grow. Made it today though for 2 sets of 180 for 5, moved so easily lol. pretty pumped to squat 185 on Friday (not much but still, feels good putting on a 25lb plate). Progress stalled for quite a bit but with 20 rep squats it seems to be shooting up again. Going to stop this once I hopefully make it to 225. It's probably not healthy long-term.

[LaughingStorm]

On the contrary, I think we agree much more than we disagree. I just have the wisdom of age to mitigate my impetuous nature.

I'm pretty ancient. You sure you're older than I am?

damn, yea it seems like a good way to force your legs to grow. Made it today though for 2 sets of 180 for 5, moved so easily lol. pretty pumped to squat 185 on Friday (not much but still, feels good putting on a 25lb plate). Progress stalled for quite a bit but with 20 rep squats it seems to be shooting up again. Going to stop this once I hopefully make it to 225. It's probably not healthy long-term.

I haven't had any problems.

I'll do my 4x4 sets with 400+ lbs and then do my set of 20 reps with 315 or a little over. Leaves my quads, ass, and lower back on fire.

[bigmane123]

I'm pretty ancient. You sure you're older than I am?



I haven't had any problems.

I'll do my 4x4 sets with 400+ lbs and then do my set of 20 reps with 315 or a little over. Leaves my quads, ass, and lower back on fire.

bishs love my juicy squat butt

[LaughingStorm]

bishs love my juicy squat butt

No doubt.

What does your squat workout look like? I could use the humiliation/motivation.

[bigmane123]

No doubt.

What does your squat workout look like? I could use the humiliation/motivation.

10-12 sets squats then 5 sets deadlift shrugs then 5 sets leg ext 5 sets leg curl

[LaughingStorm]

10-12 sets squats then 5 sets deadlift shrugs then 5 sets leg ext 5 sets leg curl

Mirin.

I'll do SLDLs on squat day to really hit the hammies, glutes, and lower back. I'm not doing 10 to 12 sets of squats beforehand, tho. Very nice.

[bigmane123]

Mirin.

I'll do SLDLs on squat day to really hit the hammies, glutes, and lower back. I'm not doing 10 to 12 sets of squats beforehand, tho. Very nice.

pure natty strength brotha

[LaughingStorm]

pure natty strength brotha

And endurance.

How long you been lifting, bruv?

[bigmane123]

And endurance.

How long you been lifting, bruv?

13 yrs

[LaughingStorm]

13 yrs

That'll do it.

Lifted while I was involved seriously in grappling, but never focused on heavy weight or pushing up my numbers very much. Only been working on that for less than half the time you've been at it seriously.

[KRANE]

I'm pretty ancient. You sure you're older than I am?

I have existed since before the Oracle at Delphi. I AM ETERNAL

[Dachampknown]

Any of you have any good 3 day per week training regimens? I was running phat, but, since my wife had our infant getting to the gym 5 days per week is difficult after pulling a 10-12 hour shift, and helping with the kids. I was thinking something like taking the upper, and lower days from my phat training, and doing a full body workout for my 3rd day. That way I'm still hitting each muscle group twice per week.

[KRANE]

Any of you have any good 3 day per week training regimens? I was running phat, but, since my wife had our infant getting to the gym 5 days per week is difficult after pulling a 10-12 hour shift, and helping with the kids. I was thinking something like taking the upper, and lower days from my phat training, and doing a full body workout for my 3rd day. That way I'm still hitting each muscle group twice per week.

I invented this routine a long time ago: MWF. My Fridays are not for the faint of heart.

[LaughingStorm]

Any of you have any good 3 day per week training regimens? I was running phat, but, since my wife had our infant getting to the gym 5 days per week is difficult after pulling a 10-12 hour shift, and helping with the kids. I was thinking something like taking the upper, and lower days from my phat training, and doing a full body workout for my 3rd day. That way I'm still hitting each muscle group twice per week.

5/3/1 has a decent 3 day a week program.

[bigmane123]

im so natty my poop comes out looking like applesauce

[LaughingStorm]

im so natty my poop comes out looking like applesauce

Not sure that is healthy, bruv.

[bigmane123]

Not sure that is healthy, bruv.

poop is poop as long as you poop it out and theres no blood its all good in the hood

[MoeCrusader07]

Any of you have any good 3 day per week training regimens? I was running phat, but, since my wife had our infant getting to the gym 5 days per week is difficult after pulling a 10-12 hour shift, and helping with the kids. I was thinking something like taking the upper, and lower days from my phat training, and doing a full body workout for my 3rd day. That way I'm still hitting each muscle group twice per week.

I don't think you'd have any problems running a program like that. Just try and make sure you are falling into a good overall volume range per body part, per week. I think the "sweet spot" according to the research (at least as of now) is 80-210 reps per body part, per week. Obviously, remember overlap, like triceps getting some work from a bench press.

[nads786]

I don't think you'd have any problems running a program like that. Just try and make sure you are falling into a good overall volume range per body part, per week. I think the "sweet spot" according to the research (at least as of now) is 80-210 reps per body part, per week. Obviously, remember overlap, like triceps getting some work from a bench press.

Woah.. 80-210 reps per body part? That seems very high to me. My rep range is prob in the low 80s per body part max. Do you have any articles I could read?

[LaughingStorm]

poop is poop as long as you poop it out and theres no blood its all good in the hood

The "no blood" rule is solid. Unless you consumed a good deal of blood recently.

Obviously, remember overlap, like triceps getting some work from a bench press.

Never count my main compound multi-joint exercise towards bodypart work. Those are just to increase overall strength.

[somfking]

how do you brahs deal/did deal with when younger, staying/getting lean while drinking?

just turned 21 a few weeks ago and i'm in college so obviously drinking is everywhere, since turning 21 i've been drinking 2-3 times a week but i'm also trying to cut and this is fukking me up. i'm not gaining weight but pretty much just maintaining while eating 2000-2200 cals a day. Thinking i'm just going to have to start doing cardio during the week to cancel out the drinking

[MoeCrusader07]

Woah.. 80-210 reps per body part? That seems very high to me. My rep range is prob in the low 80s per body part max. Do you have any articles I could read?

I should of prefaced that with to optimize hypertrophy.

Obviously, you'll want to be on the lower end if you early in your training age (novice) and higher the more advanced you get. The principles aren't set in stone and shouldn't be taken that way. It isn't as if you won't grow or progress if you aren't getting exactly that many reps per week.

As far as references, I'm going off of memory from Helms Muscle & Strength books. Here's the video on that chapter.

how do you brahs deal/did deal with when younger, staying/getting lean while drinking?

just turned 21 a few weeks ago and i'm in college so obviously drinking is everywhere, since turning 21 i've been drinking 2-3 times a week but i'm also trying to cut and this is fukking me up. i'm not gaining weight but pretty much just maintaining while eating 2000-2200 cals a day. Thinking i'm just going to have to start doing cardio during the week to cancel out the drinking

I didn't, lol. Although, this might help a little bit...

http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/science-binge-drinking/