rogue beater bar vs ob-86pbck2000

[trontheman]

Hey guys, in the market for a budget bench/squat bar that's a little larger diameter. Which would you guys go with between the beater bar and thepbclk2000? The rogue is significantly cheaper. Not pulling with this bar strictly bench and squat.


Thanks

[845ToastT]

I am personally gunna buy a Jesup power bar in the future for my fatter, stiffer bar. I like that it has sharp knurling.

[cmarti063]

I don't think either of them are good values. You have several choices at 29mm, but very few quality bars outside that (since 28-29mm is standard). Buddy Capps makes bench and squat specific bars.

[Xone]

Never used that particular cap bar but would go with that over the rogue beater bar. the beater bar has no center knurl and only olympic lifting marks and no powerlifting marks which would be a dealbreaker for bench/squat.

if you want big diameter the jesup bar feels really nice, it's a bit too thick for me though. think it's 31.75mm but some people love it. the knurl feels very good though like a real power bar.

[trontheman]

Do any of you guys have experience with the York 32113? It's a 30mm chrome plated bar, low to mid $200's. Where are you guys getting your jesup bar?

Thanks guys.

[Bench905]

I also think the Rogue Beater Bar is a bad value. For $90 more, you can go to either a Ohio Power Bar or Rogue 2.0 bar.

[PtReyesGreg]

Instead of the ob-86pbck2000 you might consider the ob-86pbck. It is not quite as strong as the 2000, but it should be fine for your purposes and will save you some money (~$50). Fwiw, I've had the ob-86pbck for around 8 years and have been very happy with it.

Here they are at Amazon:

ob-86pbck2000:
http://www.amazon.com/Barbell-Weight.../dp/B006R4EOWI

ob-86pbck:
http://www.amazon.com/Barbell-Weight.../dp/B006R4EOXM

General Barbell Comparison:
http://www.adamantbarbell.com/Olympi...mparison-Guide

[Xone]

I think a couple of you missed that he is looking for a thicker diameter bar....

you can get the jesup bar from jesupgym.com but I think the site is down

as for the York 32113 I'm not 100% sure if I've used it or not. I remember using a thicker chrome york bar briefly that I think was it which I really didn't like the feel of. it only has olympic knurl marks so I wouldn't want to use that for benching anyway.... you want a power bar.

[PtReyesGreg]

I think a couple of you missed that he is looking for a thicker diameter bar....

you can get the jesup bar from jesupgym.com but I think the site is down

I saw that in his post, but he was also asking about the ob-86pbck2000. It is a 28.5 mm bar so I offered an alternative which is also 28.5 mm.

[Xone]

I saw that in his post, but he was also asking about the ob-86pbck2000. It is a 28.5 mm bar so I offered an alternative which is also 28.5 mm.

Pbck2000 is 30mm

[PtReyesGreg]

Pbck2000 is 30mm

I don't think that is correct (or at least there is some disagreement about it). Cap lists it as 30 mm in the catalog but according to several other things I've read it is actually 28.5 mm.

It is listed as 28.5 mm on the Adamant Barbell site:

http://www.adamantbarbell.com/Olympi...mparison-Guide

and this post provides that same info from a forum user who contacted Cap product support. He measured the bar and saw that it was actually 28.5 mm and then confirmed it with customer service. Apparently the catalog is incorrect.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...post1167135903

[Xone]

I don't think that is correct (or at least there is some disagreement about it). Cap lists it as 30 mm in the catalog but according to several other things I've read it is actually 28.5 mm.

It is listed as 28.5 mm on the Adamant Barbell site:

http://www.adamantbarbell.com/Olympi...mparison-Guide

and this post provides that same info from a forum user who contacted Cap product support. He measured the bar and saw that it was actually 28.5 mm and then confirmed it with customer service. Apparently the catalog is incorrect.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...post1167135903

huh, interesting. well I guess that rules that out then.

op the jesup bar seems like the best option then, it is 1.25" (31.75mm) so it is on the thicker end of thick so keep that in mind, but it does feel really good- they have one at the gym I go to when I don't lift at home.

[trontheman]

I'm leaning towards the York bar I think, mid $200s, 30mm, solid reputation. They have a hard chrome or black oxide version

[FyrFytr998]

Buy the Ohio Power Bar. 'Murcia. Buy once. Buy right.

[Xone]

I'm leaning towards the York bar I think, mid $200s, 30mm, solid reputation. They have a hard chrome or black oxide version

you don't mind benching with olympic knurl marks? would drive me crazy to set bench grip with olympic marks. if you do go with it get the black oxide at least.

[Bench905]

I'm leaning towards the York bar I think, mid $200s, 30mm, solid reputation. They have a hard chrome or black oxide version

150k tensile, only oly knurl marks...I'd pass.

For $25 more, you can get the zinc Rogue Ohio Power Bar...for the same price, you can get the bare steel Rogue Ohio Power Bar. 209k tensile, 29mm, powerlifting knurl marks, etc. I'm assuming you want PL knurl marks since you said it's for squat and bench.

[trontheman]

I was unaware it didn't have corect knurl marks.....looks like it's out. My main priority for the bar is larger diameter. I have an ob-86b I'll keep for pulls and what not. This bar will be specifically bench and squat.

[cmarti063]

I was unaware it didn't have corect knurl marks.....looks like it's out. My main priority for the bar is larger diameter. I have an ob-86b I'll keep for pulls and what not. This bar will be specifically bench and squat.

You haven't stated WHY you want a larger diameter bar.

With very few exceptions, any bar larger than 29 mm is made with inferior steel. The larger diameter (30mm, 32mm, etc) allows them to use the cheaper steel without the bar bending as easily.

Almost every powerlifting federation uses 28-29mm bars, and as a result, there are many quality choices in this diameter range. It is the standard size for a reason.

So, WHY do you think you need a larger diameter bar than what essentially every powerlifting competitor uses? Barring some fantastic explanation, just get one of the many highly recommended power bars listed above (the Rogue Ohio Power Bar is probably the best value on the market currently).

I'll be waiting for your explanation, OP.

[Xone]

So, WHY do you think you need a larger diameter bar than what essentially every powerlifting competitor uses? Barring some fantastic explanation, just get one of the many highly recommended power bars listed above (the Rogue Ohio Power Bar is probably the best value on the market currently).

I'll be waiting for your explanation, OP.

You're right about inferior steel. Some people just like the feel of a slightly thicker bar in their hands for pressing and I can see where they're coming from. It sits in the palm better and can just feel stronger pressing that way- the best comparison I can think of is benching with a thicker bar kind of feels like benching with a false grip without actually using a false grip.

I can notice the difference from 28.5 to 29mm and 29mm feels good to me but I see why someone might want a 30-32mm.

[trontheman]

Mainly for benching purposes is why I'm after a thicker bar. I'm not overly concerned with what the pl federations use, I don't compete. If I chose to stay with a smaller diameter, I'd just get another ob-86b. Thanks

[Xone]

Mainly for benching purposes is why I'm after a thicker bar. I'm not overly concerned with what the pl federations use, I don't compete. If I chose to stay with a smaller diameter, I'd just get another ob-86b. Thanks

You may actually like a 29mm bar. It doesn't look like a big difference on paper but I feel a big difference from the 86b to a 29mm bar. The 86b is listed as 28.5 but feels kind of thin and noticeably thinner than a texas power bar which is also 28.5. I can feel a difference from either going to a 29mm but it's very noticeable compared to the 86b.

[irongrandpa]

You may actually like a 29mm bar. It doesn't look like a big difference on paper but I feel a big difference from the 86b to a 29mm bar. The 86b is listed as 28.5 but feels kind of thin and noticeably thinner than a texas power bar which is also 28.5. I can feel a difference from either going to a 29mm but it's very noticeable compared to the 86b.

The guy that sold me his Ohio Power bar said that was the reason he was selling it, that he didn't like the feel of the 29mm power bar vrs 28.5mm of his other bars. I'm happy with it.

[cmarti063]

Here you go, OP. 29.5mm, quality steel, bench specific barbell by Iron Wolfe Barbell.

http://ironwolfebarbell.com/super-bench-bar/

[thejosef]

Here you go, OP. 29.5mm, quality steel, bench specific barbell by Iron Wolfe Barbell.

http://ironwolfebarbell.com/super-bench-bar/

/\ ding ding ding we have a winner. OP, post pics when you get it too. I'd Love to see that baby in real life.

[Xone]

Here you go, OP. 29.5mm, quality steel, bench specific barbell by Iron Wolfe Barbell.

http://ironwolfebarbell.com/super-bench-bar/

damn that looks beautiful

[Bench905]

/\ ding ding ding we have a winner. OP, post pics when you get it too.

He'll probably throw in their squat bar too. Might save on shipping.

[trontheman]

haha, if money weren't a limiting factor, it'd be sweet, but slightly overkill.

[trontheman]

Where are you guys buying your buddy capps power bar? I've heard not so great things about Texas strength...

[Xone]

Where are you guys buying your buddy capps power bar? I've heard not so great things about Texas strength...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-BUDDY-CA...item20ecbd980b

[trontheman]

Thanks man. I see the rogue Ohio power bar is in stock. Are the bare steel bars troublesome to take care of, Oklahoma gets pretty humid during the summer. I don't mind cleaning it every now and then, it's everything I want for $250+shipping