Bodybuilding "what ifs"

[BartPimpson]

We've often discussed how if Ronnie hadn't been born, Jay would potentially be a 9 time Mr Olympia.

Likewise, if Dorian Yates hadn't been born, Flex Wheeler would have a Sandow, and Shawn Ray and Kevin Levrone would have two apiece.

If neither Dorian or Ronnie, or Jay had been born, we might easily be saying "Mr Olympias are won by huge arms", since most of the relevent Mr Olympias (Flex, Levrone, Victor, Dexter, Phil) have arms as a standout feature.

If Arnold hadn't gone into movies, he might be a 13-14 time Mr Olympia.

What are some interesting hypotheticals you can come up with?

[AdamantiumYoke]

If Dillett had Dorian's or Ronnie's work ethics, he would have been Mr.O for as long as he would have wanted to.

[RobberBaron13]

^^This! Imagine Dilett with Ronnies work ethic and decent posing .
If Shawn Ray or Labrada would have been 6 inches taller, how many titles would have Dorian or Haney won?

[Unbiasedfan]

Conspiracy "what ifs":

If phil didn't exist, kai would still not be mr O.

If kai's past was unknown, he would be mr O.

[ResovoirDog]

What if Kai never shagged a fruit (srs) I'm not saying he's better than phil, just genuinely curious as to what affect it's had/having on his career.

Oh and what if Beyeke dieted?

[Unbiasedfan]

If Shawn Ray or Labrada would have been 6 inches taller, how many titles would have Dorian or Haney won?

All of the ones they have won, because ray and lee would look stringy

[flangmasterj]

What if Lee hadn't been banned from the IFBB? Would he be the reigning 212 champ?

[Canuck77]

What if Levrone actually made a legit comeback when he first talked about it back in 2008...could he have actually beaten an "off" Jay Cutler that year and edged out Dex (who he had beaten a number of times throughout his career) for a Sandow? He would have been 41.

[203mh]

What if the 212 existed since the late 80s/early 90s?

What if Big Ramy made his debut at the Olympia instead of doing the NY Pro first?

What if Jay Cutler never competed?

[gibbss]

What if Lee hadn't been banned from the IFBB? Would he be the reigning 212 champ?

This one !!!!!!!!

+ What if the judging did change ... a max waist per lenght ratio, penalty points for every mistake , etc
What if like Frank Zane once said ... there would be a silhouette round.. To specificly jugde on symetry..?
What if sponsers would drop atlethes if they **** up there shape 3 times in a row ( a bit like the UFC )
What if they didn't hand out pro cards to just anyone anymore??
What if Ramy / kai could work with Chad Nicolls?

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[TropicalSunset]

What if you could not have a conflict of interest and be a sponsor at the Olympia you compete at?

What if judges were randomly selected from a huge pool?

What if all of a sudden a tight midsection was THE MOST important judging criteria?

[TTimmerman]

What if Ronnie never got an injury...

[Nep2une]

What if Victor never hurt his leg ?
What if Branch never tore his lat ?
What if Federov never tore his pec ?

And far greater than all of those......what if Levrone never hurt his (back ?) or whatever happened to him thatkept him from squatting because when he was young, legs were one of his strengths !

[IngeKJ]

If Dillett had Dorian's or Ronnie's work ethics, he would have been Mr.O for as long as he would have wanted to.

Even if he had that it doesnt mean he'd get a back good enough to compete with dorian and ronnie. His legs werent that great either

What if Ronnie never got an injury...

He'd be Mr. O as long as he wanted to

[alex070707]

What if Ramy knew how to get Munzer-like conditioning since he started competing....
What if Shawn Ray and Lee Priest were 3 inches taller.

[Iceman1981]

What if Lou stayed in bodybuilding and not do the Hulk, would he have been Mr. Olympia from 1976-1979?

[Iceman1981]

What if Ronnie never got an injury...

This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ x100000000000000000000000

[Berget93]

If neither Dorian or Ronnie, or Jay had been born, we might easily be saying "Mr Olympias are won by huge arms", since most of the relevent Mr Olympias (Flex, Levrone, Victor, Dexter, Phil) have arms as a standout feature.

Man you are taking the piss with that statement. Phil without a doubt in the latter years. Victor has great arms but so was the rest of his body in 2007.

Dont generalise all these great champions by belitteling their physiques, Wich are better than anything Jay ever brought to the stage IMO.

[PillClinton]

if genova dieted, would he win a show?

[bieberhole69]

if Xur didnt sell obsidian mind again this week maybe I could have gotten something good

[RoroCwalker]

What if the IFBB judging panel was not corrupt and consistent?

[BigBenchin]

....if Lee Haney had the "Never Say Die" attitude and competed until his body just gave out. Remember, he retired at 32 after his 8th Mr O. (actually 31, his birthday was in Nov.) By today's standards, you are just hitting your peak years at that age. I think he would of won again in '92, but '93 would have been something to see. Yates made huge gains from 92 to 93 and would really have put the pressure on Haney. Haney was old school and kept his weight in check even in off season. Yates years are credited with ringing in the Mass Monster era. Would Haney have changed his philosophy and sacrificed symmetry for size after '93? Hmmm.

[WizardsOfAus]

What if Phil didn't stand a foot over the line in the 2012 Olympia.

[alex070707]

....if Lee Haney had the "Never Say Die" attitude and competed until his body just gave out. Remember, he retired at 32 after his 8th Mr O. (actually 31, his birthday was in Nov.) By today's standards, you are just hitting your peak years at that age. I think he would of won again in '92, but '93 would have been something to see. Yates made huge gains from 92 to 93 and would really have put the pressure on Haney. Haney was old school and kept his weight in check even in off season. Yates years are credited with ringing in the Mass Monster era. Would Haney have changed his philosophy and sacrificed symmetry for size after '93? Hmmm.

Wow...never really thought about that...he could have realistically competed all the way up to the 00s.

[littlearm]

What if Shawn Ray and Lee Priest were 3 inches taller.

They would have had trouble filling out their frames and would not have gone as far in the sport.

[TTimmerman]

What if Lou Ferrigno kept competing and improving...

[kayvez]

What if Lee Haney kept competing instead of retiring?
What if Chris Cormier didnt go crazy at partying and had crazy motivation to win Mr Olympia's?
What if Edgar Fletcher and Matt Mendenhall had turned pro?

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what if IFBB was a serious federation?

[MaKaiser]

What if Joe Weider had never started the IFBB.

I wonder if bodybuilding would be in a better or worse state now.

I'm tempted to say worse but there's no telling who would've taken up the mantel of "Father of modern Bodybuilding" or what direction they might have taken it.

[rippedaspirer]

What if bodybuilding was an Olympic event..........exempted from any tests