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    Difference between 5x5 and 3x8-12

    In terms of strength and size what is the big difference between the two? My dilemma is I'm thinking about doing a 5x5 twice a week or a 5x5 and 3x8-12. Here's my example

    Monday 5x5 top set 250

    Thursday 5x5 aim for top set 255

    Repeat weekly until I stall

    Monday 5x5 250

    Thursday 3x8-12 225

    Goal is to increase top set on Monday and increase reps on Thursday. I just am wondering if their is any real big difference between the two examples as far as strength and size.
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    big differences. You should really pick a proven program instead of making up your own.
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    5x5 will be more helpful in building a strong foundation and gaining strength. 3x12 will be more of a bodybuilder type routine which focuses on muscle hypertrophy more than strength gains. If you're a beginner, 5x5 for sure. If you're not a beginner and looking for strength, then probably 5x5. Overall, do 5x5.
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    Originally Posted by Bills10 View Post
    In terms of strength and size what is the big difference between the two? My dilemma is I'm thinking about doing a 5x5 twice a week or a 5x5 and 3x8-12. Here's my example

    Monday 5x5 top set 250

    Thursday 5x5 aim for top set 255

    Repeat weekly until I stall

    Monday 5x5 250

    Thursday 3x8-12 225

    Goal is to increase top set on Monday and increase reps on Thursday. I just am wondering if their is any real big difference between the two examples as far as strength and size.
    Unless you know how to schedule concurrent training, just stick with an existing routine. Even if you do, you probably should find an existing template, anyway.
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    Originally Posted by krakkerz View Post
    Unless you know how to schedule concurrent training, just stick with an existing routine. Even if you do, you probably should find an existing template, anyway.

    My main goal is to increase my vertical jump. I can't decide if I need more muscle or more strength. I'm already doing depth jumps and jump squats so the reactive and explosive exercises are there. I'm squatting 1.75x my bodyweight right now at 157lbs and around 13% body fat. How beneficial is muscle gain to improving a vertical jump? Is more muscle mass better than more strength?
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    Originally Posted by DCSpartan View Post
    big differences. You should really pick a proven program instead of making up your own.
    My main goal is to increase my vertical jump. I can't decide if I need more muscle or more strength. I'm already doing depth jumps and jump squats so the reactive and explosive exercises are there. I'm squatting 1.75x my bodyweight right now at 157lbs and around 13% body fat. How beneficial is muscle gain to improving a vertical jump? Is more muscle mass better than more strength?
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    Originally Posted by Bills10 View Post
    My main goal is to increase my vertical jump. I can't decide if I need more muscle or more strength. I'm already doing depth jumps and jump squats so the reactive and explosive exercises are there. I'm squatting 1.75x my bodyweight right now at 157lbs and around 13% body fat. How beneficial is muscle gain to improving a vertical jump? Is more muscle mass better than more strength?
    I'm in a similar position like you. Any increase in my muscle mass (you know... functional one) leads to more strength, power, explosiveness, speed, endurance etc etc. Continue to improve your absolute strength, gain functional muscle mass, continue getting stronger in the right places (quads, hamstrings, glutes etc) and you will get there.
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