Calling out UK brahs (General election)

[infinit]

why would any young person vote tory unless they're about to inherit some prime south east property?

tories: yes, we need to desperately build new homes but we don't care enough to do anything about it

Because this country has turned into a country full of betas who expect the state to bail them out of every ****ing problem they get themselves into. This was once a country that lead the world in innovation and hard work and it has been replaced by a significant minority who like to stand on street corners with their dog saying "innit" and "blud."

The welfare state was designed to help people who through no fault of their own fell on hard times, now it is an occupation. I will be paying the 45% tax right come the summer and I sure as hell don't want to be paying 50% when I am getting sweet nothing in return.

[Hazbollah]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7n6pruhUjY

Curious what you British think of this.

A bit hyperbolic, but largely accurate. How anyone can in good faith vote Labour after Rotherham is beyond me

[hewhodar3s]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7n6pruhUjY

Curious what you British think of this.

Accurate. Worth noting that the things he is saying about the EU are true for the Conservative party too, the trick they are playing is to give the appearance they are anti EU to stop real anti EU parties like UKIP.

[Bear Grylls]

If you are a single person, earning over the minimum wage, but less than 150,000 (most on the misc i assume) then I dont really see what any of the manifestos are doing for you.

Labour will help with benefits if you are on them. If you are in the 45p tax bracket then you can be concerned.

Conservative will be pretty much be the same as it currently is, unless you are on benefits then it will just be as if labour got in.

UKIP have no feasible policies except anti EU.

The whole 'reduce the national burden of borrowing' spouted by the Conservatives is bull**** in reality. Quantitive easing has been the way out of the situation, not austerity (Look who's economies are performing; its not those who chose austerity. Also look at when the economy increased in the UK during this term, it was after the QE that took place. Osbourne quickly realised the austerity wasn't working). The reduction of deficit is purely to reduce the country's credit rating to appeal to businesses so their mates benefit. It has little bearing on the population.

The real issues for the vast majority of young people like me and my friends are housing and job prospects. None of the parties are really tackling that. Building '200k' new homes wont help when they are snatched up by those on buy to let mortgages forcing everyone to rent and pay 50% of their salaries or selling new-build houses abroad before they even hit the market over here. Again its all so the rich benefit. Labour started the problem which conservatives have gladly continued. The solution to jobs is even worse...... underpaid and useless appreticeships or zero hours contracts.

[NegOnSite]

lol @ people who aren't voting ukip

[Kinbote]

Because this country has turned into a country full of betas who expect the state to bail them out of every ****ing problem they get themselves into. This was once a country that lead the world in innovation and hard work and it has been replaced by a significant minority who like to stand on street corners with their dog saying "innit" and "blud."

The welfare state was designed to help people who through no fault of their own fell on hard times, now it is an occupation. I will be paying the 45% tax right come the summer and I sure as hell don't want to be paying 50% when I am getting sweet nothing in return.

lmao, tories are all about unearned advantages: house buying subsidies for the middle class, right-to-buy, no inheritance tax, restrictive planning laws inflating property prices.

[Hazbollah]

UKIP have no feasible policies except anti EU.

read the manifesto, it's the only independently verified one out of all of them

[Kinbote]

If you are a single person, earning over the minimum wage, but less than 150,000 (most on the misc i assume) then I dont really see what any of the manifestos are doing for you.

Labour will help with benefits if you are on them. If you are in the 45p tax bracket then you can be concerned.

Conservative will be pretty much be the same as it currently is, unless you are on benefits then it will just be as if labour got in.

UKIP have no feasible policies except anti EU.

The whole 'reduce the national burden of borrowing' spouted by the Conservatives is bull**** in reality. Quantitive easing has been the way out of the situation, not austerity (Look who's economies are performing; its not those who chose austerity. Also look at when the economy increased in the UK during this term, it was after the QE that took place. Osbourne quickly realised the austerity wasn't working). The reduction of deficit is purely to reduce the country's credit rating to appeal to businesses so their mates benefit. It has little bearing on the population.

The real issues for the vast majority of young people like me and my friends are housing and job prospects. None of the parties are really tackling that. Building '200k' new homes wont help when they are snatched up by those on buy to let mortgages forcing everyone to rent and pay 50% of their salaries or selling new-build houses abroad before they even hit the market over here. Again its all so the rich benefit. Labour started the problem which conservatives have gladly continued. The solution to jobs is even worse...... underpaid and useless appreticeships or zero hours contracts.

fuking truth.

but the conservatives saved the economy meme is appealing to low IQ morons who aren't comfortable with the reality that the government cannot control the economy.

never mind the deficit is still higher than it was in 2008 due to a massive global financial crisis that had nothing to do with gordon brown. never mind the UK's credit rating barely moved and was not downgraded iirc until 2013. never mind there is nothing inherently wrong with a deficit

[Kinbote]

read the manifesto, it's the only independently verified one out of all of them

UKIP housing policy: let's not build any new houses anywhere in this country

workers' rights: abolish 4 weeks' paid holiday

[hewhodar3s]

UKIP housing policy: let's not build any new houses anywhere in this country

workers' rights: abolish 4 weeks' paid holiday

UKIP's housing policy got praised by the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors

http://www.rics.org/uk/news/news-ins...kip-manifesto/

Think this is another case of someone getting their info spoon fed to them by the media or their friends and not bothering to check the actual facts.

[infinit]

The whole 'reduce the national burden of borrowing' spouted by the Conservatives is bull**** in reality. Quantitive easing has been the way out of the situation, not austerity (Look who's economies are performing; its not those who chose austerity. Also look at when the economy increased in the UK during this term, it was after the QE that took place. Osbourne quickly realised the austerity wasn't working). The reduction of deficit is purely to reduce the country's credit rating to appeal to businesses so their mates benefit. It has little bearing on the population.

A countries credit rating has a negligible effect on 99% of businesses. What it has far more influence on is the interest an investor expects from bonds issued by that country, a lower credit rating means you have to pay more in interest to service your debt through the issue of bonds.

And actually it is perfectly possible to implement QE and attempt austerity at the same time. In fact there is evidence QE actually helps reduce overall national debt under the right circumstances. As for those who didn't choose austerity having done better you couldn't be further from the truth. Look at what Greece, Italy, Spain and France among others tried in spending their way out by increasing or maintaining governmental spending and look what that has done to them.

[Bear Grylls]

read the manifesto, it's the only independently verified one out of all of them

I probably worded it incorrectly. It just seems all their policies are related to anti-EU measures. NHS funding? Stop the migrants. Economy? Stop EU limitations and increase business with the rest of the world. Economy? Reduce EU directives.

I am not at all against their points based scheme for immigration and some of their policies. It just seems every policy far too orientated on how getting out of the EU will solve everything.

What is Nige going to do so a hard working British person can get their foot on the property ladder? He will have to stop Middle Eastern, Asian and Russian investment, not only the Europeans. Might be hard to do business with the rest of the world when you are protecting your own.

[FlaviusStilicho]

UKIP's housing policy got praised by the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors

http://www.rics.org/uk/news/news-ins...kip-manifesto/

Think this is another case of someone getting their info spoon fed to them by the media or their friends and not bothering to check the actual facts.

It blows my mind how ****ty the media in the UK is. The B B C (America) started broadcasting in my county ~18 months ago, and it's pure propaganda. I thought American news was bad, but now I'm kind of thankful. Can't stand those smug, soft-talking twats.

Edit: Are you guys paying for the B B C channel here in the U.S.? Because a ton of old ladies are now addicted to Downton Abbey, Upstairs Downstairs, etc. Thanks for the trans-atlantic subsidy.

[HoisinHeaven]

It blows my mind how ****ty the media in the UK is. The B B C (America) started broadcasting in my county ~18 months ago, and it's pure propaganda. I thought American news was bad, but now I'm kind of thankful. Can't stand those smug, soft-talking twats.

[Kinbote]

UKIP's housing policy got praised by the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors

http://www.rics.org/uk/news/news-ins...kip-manifesto/

Think this is another case of someone getting their info spoon fed to them by the media or their friends and not bothering to check the actual facts.

RICS i.e the national body for glorified estate agents. and that's written by some "policy" moron.

it's not that UKIP has no housing policy - it's just chit policy. we won't build on brownfield sites at any scale without massive government subsidy, and in many areas brownfield sites are simply not suitable for local needs. the potato who wrote this turd acknowledges it's a supply side crisis but does not understand how we can solve it

[hewhodar3s]

It blows my mind how ****ty the media in the UK is. The B B C (America) started broadcasting in my county ~18 months ago, and it's pure propaganda. I thought American news was bad, but now I'm kind of thankful. Can't stand those smug, soft-talking twats.

We're forced to pay for it, so basically we're paying for our own brainwashing. The final straw for me was when they put a pro Labour anti Conservative subliminal message into one of their political programs.

[NegOnSite]

RICS i.e the national body for glorified estate agents. and that's written by some "policy" moron.

it's not that UKIP has no housing policy - it's just chit policy. we won't build on brownfield sites at any scale without massive government subsidy, and in many areas brownfield sites are simply not suitable for local needs. the potato who wrote this turd acknowledges it's a supply side crisis but does not understand how we can solve it

red

[Kinbote]

red

get phucked nige

if it made economic sense for developers to build on brownfield sites, they would go ahead and build. that is, after all, their business

[NegOnSite]

get phucked nige

if it made economic sense for developers to build on brownfield sites, they would go ahead and build. that is, after all, their business

dont understand red

[ShabbaLife]

all the scaremongering by politicians that if you vote for 1 party you'll get another is fukking disgusting, what ever happened to just voting for the party you want to win? Yes some parties take votes from others with similar policies etc but confusing the public with their votes is just another way to undermine democracy.

How about everybody votes for the party they want, that way the seats in parliament will go to those who people wanted to vote for in the first place.

Voting UKIP. Don't like how unelected officials of the EU control this country over our politicians, our population is expanding without the space to do so, primary school places are stretched, NHS is stretched, wages are compressed, dangerous criminals can freely come here, chitloads of people flocking here for free benefits, our very way of life is being eroded away by bureaucrats.

VOTE NIGE

1) That would only be the case under proportional representation. We have a first past the post system. If we had PR it would be a different story.

2) It's all very well to talk about voting for who you believe in, but if I know for a fact that a UKIP vote will be more likely to get me Ed Miliband as PM, why on earth would I vote for them? What on earth is wrong with being practical and realistic? It's the only rational way to be.

3) The Conservatives can and will deliver a referendum. UKIP cannot. Vote UKIP, get Miliband.

[NegOnSite]

1) That would only be the case under proportional representation. We have a first past the post system. If we had PR it would be a different story.

2) It's all very well to talk about voting for who you believe in, but if I know for a fact that a UKIP vote will be more likely to get me Ed Miliband as PM, why on earth would I vote for them? What on earth is wrong with being practical and realistic? It's the only rational way to be.

3) The Conservatives can and will deliver a referendum. UKIP cannot. Vote UKIP, get Miliband.

you sound like grant shapps. get the **** out of here you dirty tory scum

[HoisinHeaven]

1) That would only be the case under proportional representation. We have a first past the post system. If we had PR it would be a different story.

2) It's all very well to talk about voting for who you believe in, but if I know for a fact that a UKIP vote will be more likely to get me Ed Miliband as PM, why on earth would I vote for them? What on earth is wrong with being practical and realistic? It's the only rational way to be.

3) The Conservatives can and will deliver a referendum. UKIP cannot. Vote UKIP, get Miliband.

[WontDieMirin]

Sup UK brahs.

Having some issues deciding who to vote for tomorrow...

I have been considering between Tories and UKIP.

I honestly really like UKIPs manifesto for the most part, and I think it makes a lot of sense. But as the same time I do think the party attracts some people who are voting for them for the wrong reason.

I do agree with UKIPs immigration policy, economic policy and defense policy. But I do think they have a couple of bonkers things in there too.. Such as their strong stance against the existence of global warming seems a bit odd to me.

All around me I am surrounded by a bunch of left wingers, and people are also cracking jokes about UKIP at school all the time which is confusing to me.

Do I just buck up and vote UKIP? Or go for the (safer?) option of Tories?

PS. Excuse my ignorance if anything I said is kind of stupid. I have tried my best to make an informed decision on who to vote for, but as this will be my first time voting I have a lot to consider.

Thanks in advance for any replies guys

[NegOnSite]

Sup UK brahs.

Having some issues deciding who to vote for tomorrow...

I have been considering between Tories and UKIP.

I honestly really like UKIPs manifesto for the most part, and I think it makes a lot of sense. But as the same time I do think the party attracts some people who are voting for them for the wrong reason.

I do agree with UKIPs immigration policy, economic policy and defense policy. But I do think they have a couple of bonkers things in there too.. Such as their strong stance against the existence of global warming seems a bit odd to me.

All around me I am surrounded by a bunch of left wingers, and people are also cracking jokes about UKIP at school all the time which is confusing to me.

Do I just buck up and vote UKIP? Or go for the (safer?) option of Tories?

PS. Excuse my ignorance if anything I said is kind of stupid. I have tried my best to make an informed decision on who to vote for, but as this will be my first time voting I have a lot to consider.

Thanks in advance for any replies guys

ukip dont disagree that climate change is happening. they're just saying that man made activity has little to no effect on what happens to the earth naturally. they also say that "green policies" dont decrease carbon emissions, they outsource them to other countries like china. basically what the "green policies" are saying is "not in our back yard"

[WontDieMirin]

ukip dont disagree that climate change is happening. they're just saying that man made activity has little to no effect on what happens to the earth naturally. they also say that "green policies" dont decrease carbon emissions, they outsource them to other countries like china. basically what the "green policies" are saying is "not in our back yard"

Hey man, thanks for the reply

Interesting point, I'd not considered that. Do you mind me asking what kind of green policies are being suggested by other parties that really only act to outsource the problem?

If that is the case I can understand how that really solves nothing and I guess that makes me feel better about UKIP just a bit

[pushlimits]

Definitely voting UKIP tomorrow.

DC hasn't done a bad job. Labour fukked it all up as usual.

UKIP want us out of the EU.

It has to be UKIP.

War Farage!!!





I fukking love this guy. Imagine Miliband or Cameron having bollocks as big as his? We need someone like this without a doubt. Speaks his mind, doesn't give a fukk about anyone he might offend, sticking to his guns.

[hewhodar3s]

Vote UKIP, you know it makes sense!

[HoisinHeaven]

Bring back Godfrey crew

[NegOnSite]

godfrey certainly didnt help the stereotype that kippers are sexist, foul mouthed, short tempered and probably racist too

[HoisinHeaven]

godfrey certainly didnt help the stereotype that kippers are sexist, foul mouthed, short tempered and probably racist too

You're probably right, but we still got where we are despite it.