*Official Mayweather vs. Pacquiao Thread*

[AirJordanB]

Saturday, May 2nd, 2015:
Welterweight Championship Fight
Floyd "Money" Mayweather (WBC/WBA) vs. Manny "Pac-Man" Pacquiao (WBO)

[1800_Cool_Guy]

Tin foil hat on.

If this goes to decision, Pacquiao will come out as victor to allow for the rematch which will bring in even more revenue. A more feasible outcome to insure a rematch with much much more interest would be a Paqo KO. These guys are well accomplished and at the tail end of their careers. Their priority is making as much money as possible at this point than their legacy.

[AirJordanB]

Tin foil hat on.

If this goes to decision, Pacquiao will come out as victor to allow for the rematch which will bring in even more revenue. A more feasible outcome to insure a rematch with much much more interest would be a Paqo KO. These guys are well accomplished and at the tail end of their careers. Their priority is making as much money as possible at this point than their legacy.

I disagree. Mayweather is rumored to be making around $150-180 million for this fight and he's been clearing $30 million for each of his fights since 2010. His entire legacy is now about being undefeated. Also, Bob Arum basically isn't involved at all in this fight, so there won't be a fix for Pacquiao.

[ilykejordans]

Tin foil hat on.

If this goes to decision, Pacquiao will come out as victor to allow for the rematch which will bring in even more revenue. A more feasible outcome to insure a rematch with much much more interest would be a Paqo KO. These guys are well accomplished and at the tail end of their careers. Their priority is making as much money as possible at this point than their legacy.

lol no way this would happen, Mayweather's main draw is thats he undefeated. Also lol @ people picking Pacquiao based off them being biased and not liking Mayweather

[Vargas]

I disagree. Mayweather is rumored to be making around $150-180 million for this fight and he's been clearing $30 million for each of his fights since 2010. His entire legacy is now about being undefeated. Also, Bob Arum basically isn't involved at all in this fight, so there won't be a fix for Pacquiao.

Quoted for truth. The moment Floyd takes an L, his marketability will be ruined. His next PPV after that will be peanuts compared to what he is use to making. The fight will go to a decision with a UD for Floyd 116-112.

[Tuga88]

What do you guys think the chances of being able to stream this fight will be? I'm assuming there will be millions trying to do the same so any good streams out there will be overloaded and just keep buffering right? Anyone tried to stream a sporting event of this magnitude before?

[HipHopLyrics]

Tin foil hat on.

If this goes to decision, Pacquiao will come out as victor to allow for the rematch which will bring in even more revenue. A more feasible outcome to insure a rematch with much much more interest would be a Paqo KO. These guys are well accomplished and at the tail end of their careers. Their priority is making as much money as possible at this point than their legacy.

Disagree just like the others, Floyd's record is a big reason he draws such audiences. A lot of people just wanna see him get KTFO.

I don't think Mayweather could handle an L. I can honestly see him going crazy if he loses, I just get that feeling his boxing record means everything to him, despite the 'money' image he portrays.

What do you guys think the chances of being able to stream this fight will be? I'm assuming there will be millions trying to do the same so any good streams out there will be overloaded and just keep buffering right? Anyone tried to stream a sporting event of this magnitude before?

I'd imagine it'd be near impossible to get a steady stream for the full fight, they'll be working hard taking them down on Saturday. You'll have to have a few ready and keep switching when they go down.

[Workout4ever]

mayweather decision seems like the most likely sensible prediction


but I will be rooting for pacquiao to get the ko

[Magicmees]

Mayweather will finish Pacqiao.

[Von Brawn]

Mayweather will finish Pacqiao.

Floyd is a defensive wizard point fighter. If he wins it's by decision, I'd be surprised if he hurts Manny

My money's on Manny the motherfuka via tko

I wouldn't mind seeing it again in September irrespective of outcome

[Kadafi25]

Floyd is a defensive wizard point fighter. If he wins it's by decision, I'd be surprised if he hurts Manny

My money's on Manny the motherfuka via tko

I wouldn't mind seeing it again in September irrespective of outcome

Why is it so outlandish for Floyd to KO or stop Pacquiao? People need to analyse this fight a little more closely.

Manny has been KO'd twice by bantamweights. And these boxers weren't even KO artists at that weight. Floyd is not particularly heavy handed but he comprehensively KO'd Ricky Hatton who had a decent chin as he took all of Tszyu's best punches still standing. So he clearly has KO power, he just chooses not to use it due to strategy.

This fight is different because Pacquiao is a 10-punch-in-three-seconds boxer who is always off balance and open to being stopped. He was put to sleep for 1.5 minutes by Marquez. Mayweather has been improving his strength with Alex Ariza. You guys are ignorant if you don't realise that Mayweather will be throwing more power punches than he has ever done before in this fight. Think about it: a 100-punch per round boxer against one of the greatest precision counter punchers of all time. I'm not saying Floyd will KO Pacquiao but he will be looking for it throughout the fight.

Fans need to get a grip when they call Floyd feather fisted etc. Wlad is one of the hardest HW punchers we've seen but he boxed Jennings without throwing a single power punch on Saturday and Jennings' face was virtually unmarked afterwards. Boxing to a particular style does not negate one's power. Mayweather definitely is capable of KOing Manny.

[AirJordanB]

Why is it so outlandish for Floyd to KO or stop Pacquiao? People need to analyse this fight a little more closely.

Manny has been KO'd twice by bantamweights. And these boxers weren't even KO artists at that weight. Floyd is not particularly heavy handed but he comprehensively KO'd Ricky Hatton who had a decent chin as he took all of Tszyu's best punches still standing. So he clearly has KO power, he just chooses not to use it due to strategy.

This fight is different because Pacquiao is a 10-punch-in-three-seconds boxer who is always off balance and open to being stopped. He was put to sleep for 1.5 minutes by Marquez. Mayweather has been improving his strength with Alex Ariza. You guys are ignorant if you don't realise that Mayweather will be throwing more power punches than he has ever done before in this fight. Think about it: a 100-punch per round boxer against one of the greatest precision counter punchers of all time. I'm not saying Floyd will KO Pacquiao but he will be looking for it throughout the fight.

Fans need to get a grip when they call Floyd feather fisted etc. Wlad is one of the hardest HW punchers we've seen but he boxed Jennings without throwing a single power punch on Saturday and Jennings' face was virtually unmarked afterwards. Boxing to a particular style does not negate one's power. Mayweather definitely is capable of KOing Manny.

This.

Manny doesn't have a jab, so he lunges in and out with combinations. People often praise his footwork, but that same footwork was exploited by the only elite counter puncher he has faced (Marquez). You can't jump in and out against a fighter like Floyd, who baits in his opponent, without getting tagged. Floyd has the best straight right in boxing and Manny completely disregards head movement as he recklessly lunges into exchanges. Sure, his style has been great against other offensive fighters, but Manny struggled heavily in every fight against Marquez, and it will be the same against Floyd, who is an even better counter puncher than JuanMa.

[Tuga88]

I'd imagine it'd be near impossible to get a steady stream for the full fight, they'll be working hard taking them down on Saturday. You'll have to have a few ready and keep switching when they go down.

Yeah brah this is what I'm thinking too. It sucks because in the UK if you don't have a subscription to a certain digital TV provider then there is no way you can watch the fight. I was willing to pay a decent amount too but nothing can be done.

[chronotrigger14]

Is there a more unlikeable person than mayweather? He literally talks crap about everything and everyone.

[Nomex]

#teampacman

[Ravishing_Rick]

i think may will win by knock out but i picked UD to play it safe

[Von Brawn]

Why is it so outlandish for Floyd to KO or stop Pacquiao? People need to analyse this fight a little more closely.

Outlandish is your word. I prefer improbable.

Floyd has shown time and time again that he's content point fighting instead of committing to punches.

Is it possible within the laws of physics that Floyd can KO Manny? Yes, of course. You can't be apart of the boxing fight of this generation without possessing all the skills of a complete boxer.

Is it probable? About as likely as snowing in July.

Manny has been KO'd twice by bantamweights. And these boxers weren't even KO artists at that weight. Floyd is not particularly heavy handed but he comprehensively KO'd Ricky Hatton who had a decent chin as he took all of Tszyu's best punches still standing. So he clearly has KO power, he just chooses not to use it due to strategy.

I'd love to make the distinction between Manny's take all comers resume versus Floyd's guarded opponent selection but won't for the sake of brevity.

Emanuel Steward called Floyd's strategy vs Hatton early.

Most people assume KO's are delivering power to chin. In reality, they're a product of many different factors: your opponent's fatigue level, your punching direction, your opponent's movement direction, breaking your own punching rhythm to land the unexpected shot, breaking your opponent's guard rhythm etc.

The check left hook that dropped Hatton in the 10th was the same CLH Floyd threw throughout the fight (RH + CLH variations were Floyd's combo of choice). He landed the same punch throughout the fight, without knocking down or visibly hurting / slowing down Hatton.

Meaning, the check left hook that Floyd threw versus Hatton was not a result of emergent KO power that Floyd "chooses" when to display; but of a masterful game-plan. All the right conditions had to be present (Hatton tired, frustrated, rushing in with his chin up

This fight is different because Pacquiao is a 10-punch-in-three-seconds boxer who is always off balance and open to being stopped.

Now this is outlandish. Patiently waiting for your analysis.

Shuffling side to side as well as front to back and attacking from strange angles /=/ off balance fighting. Manny couldn't power punch the way he consistently does if his footwork was off balance.

He was put to sleep for 1.5 minutes by Marquez.

Fair enough but also acknowledge the fact that this happened after the two shared 2 hours of in ring fighting time. JMM is also a volume puncher who has consistently displayed power punching.

Bradley and JMM are volume punchers who would give any competitor a decent fight.

"But Mayweather beat JMM fair and square!"

Yes, after making JMM come up in weight and Floyd coming in 6 lbs over weight himself.

Mayweather has been improving his strength with Alex Ariza. You guys are ignorant if you don't realise that Mayweather will be throwing more power punches than he has ever done before in this fight.

And now we come to the crux: Floyd will have to fight like he never has to KO Pacquiao.

Think about it: a 100-punch per round boxer against one of the greatest precision counter punchers of all time. I'm not saying Floyd will KO Pacquiao but he will be looking for it throughout the fight.

What? You back-peddled your entire argument. Of course he'll be looking for the KO. They'll both be looking for the KO.

Fans need to get a grip when they call Floyd feather fisted etc. Wlad is one of the hardest HW punchers we've seen but he boxed Jennings without throwing a single power punch on Saturday and Jennings' face was virtually unmarked afterwards. Boxing to a particular style does not negate one's power. Mayweather definitely is capable of KOing Manny.

I resent that you keep putting words in my mouth. No serious boxing fan reduces FMM to a pillow puncher. Make no mistake however, there is a big chasm between pillow puncher and KO artist and Floyd is neither.

☆☆☆Amir Khan will beat Floyd Mayweather Jr Crew☆☆☆

Wouldn't have bothered replying if I read this first.

Wish I had read your entire post before responding.

Manny doesn't have a jab, so he lunges in and out with combinations.

Lol.

People often praise his footwork, but that same footwork was exploited by the only elite counter puncher he has faced (Marquez). You can't jump in and out against a fighter like Floyd, who baits in his opponent, without getting tagged. Floyd has the best straight right in boxing and Manny completely disregards head movement as he recklessly lunges into exchanges. Sure, his style has been great against other offensive fighters, but Manny struggled heavily in every fight against Marquez, and it will be the same against Floyd, who is an even better counter puncher than JuanMa.

Manny's best punch against Floyd is his left hand because Floyd almost always dips to his right. Manny's jab may be ineffectual but the right hook & right uppercut will give Floyd trouble.

All things equal, JMM can give any fighter fits (in b4 revisionist history, read above). He KO'd Pacman in a fight Manny was winning after 2 hours of in ring fighting time.

edit - Everyone should also check out this brilliant piece by HBO

[Clide Whit]

Will leave this here, great breakdowns of both fighters:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...Cvo6TCq-BN6ojI


also here is his prediction:

http://www.thefightcity.com/mayweath...gy-prediction/

[Armando777]

IMHO if it's about the titles or the prestige then we will have an awesome boxing. If its about $$$$ then it will be about rematch this and that. I'm kinda leanning toward the second option when you have a boxer in his home town that brings $$$$ revenue to that town... Also that he picks and chooses who he fights...

[6-SPEED]

Are they offering this PPV online? An official stream you can buy like UFC fights?

[woodsmash]

Freddie Roach's breakdown of the match up

[johnnycomehome]

Will leave this here, great breakdowns of both fighters:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...Cvo6TCq-BN6ojI


also here is his prediction:

http://www.thefightcity.com/mayweath...gy-prediction/

interesting that he leans towards pacquiao

Personally I agree with what Bernard Hopkins said. The first 6 rounds I'm sure will be intense, but after that I see Floyd taking control and wearing Pacquiao out and walking him down. Although, like B-Hop said, if Pacquiao can keep Floyd engaging with him and outwork him then he should win rounds

Basically I'm confident that PBF wins this, but I wouldn't go as far as to write Manny off

Obviously the key to this fight is whether Mayweather manages to adjust himself to Pacquiao's style quickly enough to take control.

[AirJordanB]

Last press conference before weigh-ins and the fight:

Freddie Roach's breakdown of the match up

[youtube]SfpDrjvSzm0[youtube]

I can't believe Freddie was actually objective. Nice to see.

[Ali619]

The problem is they might close down stream sites or it'll be extremely slow due to millions on it, I'm gonna need about 30 minutes before the fight start to find a decent streaming which is always around the internet.

[chucksmanhood]

Floyd is a defensive wizard point fighter. If he wins it's by decision, I'd be surprised if he hurts Manny

My money's on Manny the motherfuka via tko

I wouldn't mind seeing it again in September irrespective of outcome

What this hipster cuck wrote.

War Manny. Has a legit chance of nogging the fukk outta May. Although a May dec should be the favourite result,

[chucksmanhood]

Mayweather definitely is capable of KOing Manny.

I aint disputing this.

[AirJordanB]

What this hipster cuck wrote.

War Manny. Has a legit chance of nogging the fukk outta May. Although a May dec should be the favourite result,

Pac has a legit chance of knocking out Mayweather? uwotm8? He couldn't knockout a punching bag in Rios. He couldn't knockout a kickboxer in Algieri. He hasn't knocked anyone out since Cotto in 2009, but you think he's going to KO the best defensive boxer since Pernell Whittaker?

No.

Just no.

[chucksmanhood]

Pac has a legit chance of knocking out Mayweather? uwotm8? He couldn't knockout a punching bag in Rios. He couldn't knockout a kickboxer in Algieri. He hasn't knocked anyone out since Cotto in 2009, but you think he's going to KO the best defensive boxer since Pernell Whittaker?

No.

Just no.

Im not saying it WILL happen.

When 2 dudes fight, irrespective of how good they are or not, there is always a chance ( a punchers chance if you will) that either can knock out the other. Im saying with Manny, it aint gon be no fluke if he rips Mays head off. Mayweather gets KOd by Maidana or a nother. It would shock me. Mayweather gets KOd by Manny, no shock for me.

[trainreqq]

Any person who predicts Manny via KO are most definitely the typical boxing fan that rages every time they see Mayweather anywhere because they think he's a pussy or "coward" just because of his defensive boxing style.

[johnnycomehome]

Any person who predicts Manny via KO are most definitely the typical boxing fan that rages every time they see Mayweather anywhere because they think he's a pussy or "coward" just because of his defensive boxing style.

Dunno about this, but people who predict Manny by KO...DKSAB

There is a much higher chance that Mayweather will TKO Pacquiao than vice versa

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enjoy guys: