Early birds fantasy football discussion v.2

[AXnyc]

I'm not sold on Forsett without Kubiak's offense... If he's still out there I think you should try to get your hands on Taliafero, just in case.

A lot of people are very high on him this year in PPR.....When i started mocking in June he was going in the 4th -5th round...now iv seen people take him mid second to late second most of the time..............I want him on my team but id rather take someone like AJ green or Cobb and pick up ellington in late 4th to early 5th.

[AXnyc]

I dont think it's fair to put Foster on that list. All those other guys either havent proven themselves or had one good season. Obviously, the biggest issue with Foster is his durability but if he's healthy he always performs. I highly doubt he'll last past the second round in any draft

This...foster is never gonna fall into 3rd round in 12 team unless you are playing with potatos....Probably early 2nd to mid second at best.

[Nainoa]

A lot of people are very high on him this year in PPR.....When i started mocking in June he was going in the 4th -5th round...now iv seen people take him mid second to late second most of the time..............I want him on my team but id rather take someone like AJ green or Cobb and pick up ellington in late 4th to early 5th.

Yeah Forsett's value slides around now because Trestman passes to his backs a lot. So he's worth a lot in PPR.

At the same time Forsett has bounced around the league rarely mounting up to more than a backup or injury replacement. I think there's enough reasonable doubt that his success was a result of Kubiak to make me want to handcuff Taliaferro to Forsett, JUST in case it was Kubiak all along.

[ccounts54]

Thoughts on Keenan Allen this season?

[MurkinSeason]

Thoughts on Keenan Allen this season?

I think his numbers will resemble his rookie season numbers. Antonio Gates is suspended 4 games so he could be the guy that fills the void. Borderline WR2.

Snag him up in the mid rounds if he falls to you.

[Nainoa]

Well McFadden just went down with ANOTHER, new hamstring injury.

Ironically I think this decreases Randle's value, as I think it will drive the Cowboys to go get one of the veteran free agents sitting at home right now.

[Nainoa]

Thoughts on Keenan Allen this season?

He smelled like a sophomore slump at this time last year. He fell for the classic hot rookie mistake of thinking that his surprise rookie season meant he was a natural. Then DC's spent a year studying tape on him and the offense to shut him down.

Now in year 3 he should emerge as a true professional and Gates being suspended for the first 4 games will give him more time in the slot where he can go up for balls in the red zone.

[MurkinSeason]

Well McFadden just went down with ANOTHER, new hamstring injury.

Ironically I think this decreases Randle's value, as I think it will drive the Cowboys to go get one of the veteran free agents sitting at home right now.

McFadden has been struggling with this hamstring injury for some months now. He didn't injure it in camp or anything. I would say Randles value is still the same at this point. He will go in as the starting back but at some point I see Dallas picking up someone because you can't trust McFadden as your 2 back.

CJ2K, Rice and Steven Jackson. I would keep these guys on your radar.

[MurkinSeason]

Every season is different, but for what it's worth, here's a look at the teams Allen plays against in 2015, with the teams 2014 rank against the pass in parenthesis. Lions (13th), Cincy (20th), Minn (7th), Cleveland (8th), Pitt (27th), GB (10th), Oakland twice(16th), Bal (23rd), Chicago (30th), KC twice (2nd), Jacksonville (22nd), Denver twice (9th), Miami (6th).

For the guy asking about Allen.

[Jw9thwonder]

Every season is different, but for what it's worth, here's a look at the teams Allen plays against in 2015, with the teams 2014 rank against the pass in parenthesis. Lions (13th), Cincy (20th), Minn (7th), Cleveland (8th), Pitt (27th), GB (10th), Oakland twice(16th), Bal (23rd), Chicago (30th), KC twice (2nd), Jacksonville (22nd), Denver twice (9th), Miami (6th).

For the guy asking about Allen.

looks juicy

[Jayarbie]

I dont think it's fair to put Foster on that list. All those other guys either havent proven themselves or had one good season. Obviously, the biggest issue with Foster is his durability but if he's healthy he always performs. I highly doubt he'll last past the second round in any draft

I don't like him for this year as a 1st or 2nd round pick. Last year was a renaissance for him, but I think it'll cause too many people to overvalue him this year, and I don't think he will duplicate his numbers. He's older, he's had injury issues, and he has a ton of touches. For me, he doesn't become a value pick unless he slides past the 2nd, but I don't think he ever will, either. That was really the whole point. I believe the guys on my list are overvalued and will never be available at the point where I consider them value picks.

[Jayarbie]

McFadden has been struggling with this hamstring injury for some months now. He didn't injure it in camp or anything. I would say Randles value is still the same at this point. He will go in as the starting back but at some point I see Dallas picking up someone because you can't trust McFadden as your 2 back.

CJ2K, Rice and Steven Jackson. I would keep these guys on your radar.

This is a different hamstring injury to the other leg. The dude is toast. He's not making their 53 man roster.

[MurkinSeason]

This is a different hamstring injury to the other leg. The dude is toast. He's not making their 53 man roster.

Lmao yes he is. The Arkansas ties are strong enough alone to guarantee him a spot. You so crazyyyy.

[Impurityz]

looks juicy

Keenan Allen actually has one of the hardest schedules out of wrs
He is in the red on my charts at a 21 (1-32 ; 1 being the easiest)

He has the 50th (out of 69) easiest schedule out of all draftable wrs

[Impurityz]

Every season is different, but for what it's worth, here's a look at the teams Allen plays against in 2015, with the teams 2014 rank against the pass in parenthesis. Lions (13th), Cincy (20th), Minn (7th), Cleveland (8th), Pitt (27th), GB (10th), Oakland twice(16th), Bal (23rd), Chicago (30th), KC twice (2nd), Jacksonville (22nd), Denver twice (9th), Miami (6th).

For the guy asking about Allen.

you defensive ranks are redic off unless that is ppr

DEN was 31st and CIN was 30th... and alot of other differences

heck Baltimore was 5th

1 being most points allowed
32 being lease points allowed

[MurkinSeason]

you defensive ranks are redic off unless that is ppr

DEN was 31st and CIN was 30th... and alot of other differences

heck Baltimore was 5th

1 being most points allowed
32 being lease points allowed

Those were just overall team defensive rankings when it comes to pass defense. Not fantasy statistics.

[nickerc1]

Those were just overall team defensive rankings when it comes to pass defense. Not fantasy statistics.

Yeah pretty irrelevant at this point in the preseason. I would never choose a WR over another based on the previous years pass defense schedule.

[Impurityz]

Yeah pretty irrelevant at this point in the preseason. I would never choose a WR over another based on the previous years pass defense schedule.

actually it is very relevant, all schedule rankings for positions.

If you are saying you wont pick golden tate over dez if tate had an easier schedule... well okay then

but if you were to tell me Julio jones has an easy schedule and Dez has a very hard one, il pass on Dez and take Julio.

If a player has a difficult schedule, I will address where their adp is and decide if they are being overdrafted or not.

To think SoS doesnt matter for fantasy is crazy, matchups is exactly what fantasy is.

[Nainoa]

So I made a trade yesterday...

In my keeper league I sent away Joseph Randle in exchange for Martavis Bryant.

The deal had been on the table for over a week... Then yesterday when McFadden went down with a hammy, the guy pulled the trigger on the trade.

In his mind he saw it as "Randle's chance to take over." In my mind I see it as "This will encourage the cowboys to go after one of the veteran RB's still out there in free agency... Then McFadden will come back and Dallas becomes a muddled committee."

I must admit I could get snake bit on this one. But I like Bryant. I'm hoping with the Steelers touch schedule they pass more and Bryant is tall with soft hands.

I could get burned on it, but it's my 6th keeper spot.

So going into draft day this makes my keepers
Cam
Jeremy Hill
Dez Bryant
Jeffrey
Martavis Bryant
Olson

And I'll easily have enough extra money in the auction to buy AP, Charles or Forte.

[theACEofSPADES]

So I made a trade yesterday...

In my keeper league I sent away Joseph Randle in exchange for Martavis Bryant.

The deal had been on the table for over a week... Then yesterday when McFadden went down with a hammy, the guy pulled the trigger on the trade.

In his mind he saw it as "Randle's chance to take over." In my mind I see it as "This will encourage the cowboys to go after one of the veteran RB's still out there in free agency... Then McFadden will come back and Dallas becomes a muddled committee."

I must admit I could get snake bit on this one. But I like Bryant. I'm hoping with the Steelers touch schedule they pass more and Bryant is tall with soft hands.

I could get burned on it, but it's my 6th keeper spot.

So going into draft day this makes my keepers
Cam
Jeremy Hill
Dez Bryant
Jeffrey
Martavis Bryant
Olson

And I'll easily have enough extra money in the auction to buy AP, Charles or Forte.

Dont know anything about keeper leagues but getting M.Bryant was a good deal in my opinion. Everyone is pretty high on him this year, he won couple games for me last season. I think PIT could have two 1,000 receivers

[Jw9thwonder]

So I made a trade yesterday...

In my keeper league I sent away Joseph Randle in exchange for Martavis Bryant.

The deal had been on the table for over a week... Then yesterday when McFadden went down with a hammy, the guy pulled the trigger on the trade.

In his mind he saw it as "Randle's chance to take over." In my mind I see it as "This will encourage the cowboys to go after one of the veteran RB's still out there in free agency... Then McFadden will come back and Dallas becomes a muddled committee."

I must admit I could get snake bit on this one. But I like Bryant. I'm hoping with the Steelers touch schedule they pass more and Bryant is tall with soft hands.

I could get burned on it, but it's my 6th keeper spot.

So going into draft day this makes my keepers
Cam
Jeremy Hill
Dez Bryant
Jeffrey
Martavis Bryant
Olson

And I'll easily have enough extra money in the auction to buy AP, Charles or Forte.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...-training-camp

[EpicenterRex]

So the guys I work with are starting a work 12 team fantasy football league for money. No league safe ect.. the manager of the company is holding all the cash.

I'm by far the most seasoned fantasy guy at work, theres even 3 of the 12 people who've never even played fantasy.

I typically do Yahoo for everything (pro leagues) and they're going with ESPN. And the guy who's idea it is set up standard scoring but instead the rosters look like

QB
RB
RB
WR
WR
TE
Flex
Flex
K
D

So I've never done a league with 2 flexes. I'm assuming RB's will go now even faster, correct? At this setup wouldn't arguably RB depth matter EVEN more so?

[Nainoa]

Dont know anything about keeper leagues but getting M.Bryant was a good deal in my opinion. Everyone is pretty high on him this year, he won couple games for me last season. I think PIT could have two 1,000 receivers

Yeah and at this point he's my WR3 on the bench of he's my starting flex.

We get to keep 6 players in my league... Auction draft with a salary cap.

So Bryant is only costing me $7 out of a $500 salary cap!

Each year you can kind of look at who people are "Probably" keeping... This year the WR ranks should be super thin, so you'll have to overpay in the auction to get anyone. In my league $6 is the minimum cost for a WR... So I'm $1 over minimum with him... With all the hype coming out about Martavis, he would probably have gone for around $25-$30.

So that's essentially money saved that I can put towards getting a big back.

This year the big back pool is the best it has been in my league for YEARS!

Forte, Charles, Peterson, Lynch, McCoy will be available... I'll have enough money to splurge and add any one of them... Then I should have enough cash leftover to maybe squeeze in Melvin Gordon... And I have a target on the Bills Defense.

Unless something goes sideways, I should have a roster that looks something like:

Cam
Some QB2
Peterson
Jeremy Hill
Melvin Gordon
Some RB4
Some RB5
Dez
Jeffery
Martavis
Amari Cooper
Olson
Eifert
Some Kicker
Bills Defense

[Nainoa]

So here's a fun little Fantasy Related game I've been playing with in my head.

Can you make a starting lineup, reasonably considering rankings for a team with players that only have the last name Smith, Williams, Jones, Jackson and Johnson?

I think you could do it, except for the Quarterback.?

[Jw9thwonder]

So here's a fun little Fantasy Related game I've been playing with in my head.

Can you make a starting lineup, reasonably considering rankings for a team with players that only have the last name Smith, Williams, Jones, Jackson and Johnson?

I think you could do it, except for the Quarterback.?

Qb Alex Smith
RB Fred Jackson
RB Deangelo Williams
WR Julio Jones
WR Calvin Johnson
TE Maxx Williams
Flex Andre Johnson


lol i started gettin confused and everyones name started looking different while doing this

[GolfPants]

So here's a fun little Fantasy Related game I've been playing with in my head.

Can you make a starting lineup, reasonably considering rankings for a team with players that only have the last name Smith, Williams, Jones, Jackson and Johnson?

I think you could do it, except for the Quarterback.?

QB Alex Smith
RB Duke Johnson
RB David Johnson
WR Calvin Johnson
WR Julio Jones
WR Vincent Jackson
TE Maxx Williams
Flex Fred Jackson / Andre Johnson

[HughBMyron]

actually it is very relevant, all schedule rankings for positions.

If you are saying you wont pick golden tate over dez if tate had an easier schedule... well okay then

but if you were to tell me Julio jones has an easy schedule and Dez has a very hard one, il pass on Dez and take Julio.

If a player has a difficult schedule, I will address where their adp is and decide if they are being overdrafted or not.

To think SoS doesnt matter for fantasy is crazy, matchups is exactly what fantasy is.

Imp ethering kids left and right ITT.

[meyer23]

Yeah and at this point he's my WR3 on the bench of he's my starting flex.

We get to keep 6 players in my league... Auction draft with a salary cap.

So Bryant is only costing me $7 out of a $500 salary cap!

Each year you can kind of look at who people are "Probably" keeping... This year the WR ranks should be super thin, so you'll have to overpay in the auction to get anyone. In my league $6 is the minimum cost for a WR... So I'm $1 over minimum with him... With all the hype coming out about Martavis, he would probably have gone for around $25-$30.

So that's essentially money saved that I can put towards getting a big back.

This year the big back pool is the best it has been in my league for YEARS!

Forte, Charles, Peterson, Lynch, McCoy will be available... I'll have enough money to splurge and add any one of them... Then I should have enough cash leftover to maybe squeeze in Melvin Gordon... And I have a target on the Bills Defense.

Unless something goes sideways, I should have a roster that looks something like:

Cam
Some QB2
Peterson
Jeremy Hill
Melvin Gordon
Some RB4
Some RB5
Dez
Jeffery
Martavis
Amari Cooper
Olson
Eifert
Some Kicker
Bills Defense

really like this keeper team youve got here...solid starters who will obviously do great things plus youve got a good variety of young talent and potential

[theACEofSPADES]

Yahoo brahs. That "preferred players" list where you can add players that you want, if you're not at the draft will players be auto picked from that list? My laptop has been acting up and restarting itself for no reason, the last thing I want is that to happen during a draft and I get Eli Manning with the first pick.

[dhawkeye1980]

Bell reduced to 2 games how do you rank him over lacy/AP? I feel these are the top 3 backs in my PPR league and i am hoping to land 1 of the 3 at 3rd pick