Early birds fantasy football discussion v.2

[IfIRuledTheMisc]

I would rather have two clear cut WR1 in a PPR than draft Le'Veon and then a WR2 in the 2nd or 3rd. Le'Veon gets the @Bengals, Broncos, @Ravens for the fantasy playoffs. No thanks.

As much as I hate Todd Haley, his offense is perfect for fantasy. He will literally do anything to get Le'Veon and Brown involved. His job depends on him feeding their superstars. Bell is a safe top pick if you are willing to settle for Deangelo or someone else for 2 weeks. In PPR he's a lock to be honest. 1300 yards rushing, 850 receiving and 83 receptions last year.

In the 2 games vs. the Ravens last year he had 10 total receptions and 160 yards. That's 26 points + the TD.. so he averaged 16 vs. them
Vs. Bengals: 330 yards and 12 receptions, 2 td's.. so he averaged like 28.5 vs them in a PPR.

Week 17 wasn't great at first glance, but in PPR he had 16 points.

Can't complain over a guaranteed 16 breh.

He also came into camp in better shape than he's been his entire career this year so you know he's putting in work.

[Tumors]

If these guys were all available as you got to your bench positions. and you are solid at both WR and RB, what order would you take them? Rounds 7-10 lets assume.

Martavis Bryant
D. Martin
A. Abdullah
A. Blue
A. Foster

[EpicenterRex]

I know it's 1 drive into preseason, but the Raiders are going to rely on Cooper and Murray, HARD. first 7 plays split between them

[EthanHun]

If these guys were all available as you got to your bench positions. and you are solid at both WR and RB, what order would you take them? Rounds 7-10 lets assume.

Martavis Bryant
D. Martin
A. Abdullah
A. Blue
A. Foster

Abdullah
Foster
Martin

[WagerKing]

If these guys were all available as you got to your bench positions. and you are solid at both WR and RB, what order would you take them? Rounds 7-10 lets assume.

Martavis Bryant
D. Martin
A. Abdullah
A. Blue
A. Foster

LOL at abdullah 7th round. good luck with that

[EthanHun]

Did a 10 man live mock standard 2RB 1 WR 0 flex Yahoo- How'd I do? Who do you like dislike? Seems like I shouldn't have gotten CJ anderson in the late 2nd. Lots of QB's and WR went in the 1-2nd before it got to me. Also Gordon in the 5th was just sitting there for me after I picked up J.Matthews

I also had the opporunity at A.Foster in the 9th round maybe should Have snagged him idk

[MurkinSeason]

LOL at abdullah 7th round. good luck with that

He could slip to the 7th in some leagues. The thought of Bell snaking goal line touchdowns every game alone will make some people pass him up.

[WagerKing]

He could slip to the 7th in some leagues. The thought of Bell snaking goal line touchdowns every game alone will make some people pass him up.

he cannot possibly drop 7th

he has 5th round adp at the moment with more upside than any player in fantasy lmao

[EthanHun]

So my standard league rewards for punt return kick returns- I'm tempted to pick up jarvis landry but i'm not sure how early I have to pick him- I believe his adp is around 7-8 round. So with the 1point/10 yard PR/KR how early would i strike for him? I'm thinking 5-6 round- 2 wr 2 rb 1 flex...

Would I be stretching if i go for him 5th. BTW i'm 4th pick in my snake draft

100+ yards in nearly every game with the combined points! ;O

thanks

[AXnyc]

he cannot possibly drop 7th

he has 5th round adp at the moment with more upside than any player in fantasy lmao

OK calm down bro before you draft him in the second......

[MurkinSeason]

he cannot possibly drop 7th

he has 5th round adp at the moment with more upside than any player in fantasy lmao

You would be surprised how many people don't pay attention to ADP when it comes to live drafts. Sometimes ADP turns out to not mean ****.

[pkahnman]

this year im doing things different

im trying not to be so obsessed with researching and ****. im sticking with my gut and going with it

doing 3 leagues (friends/work/misc(aware2) this year instead of a bunch of leagues

MUST. NOT. LET. FANTASY. TAKE. OVER. LIFE

[Relomy]

3rd pick in a 10man 2QB 1PPR league: Rodgers, JC, Brown, or someone else? The others get VERY QB happy in the first couple rounds.

Luck, Bell, Lacy, Anderson, and Hill are all keepers.

[Murph0408]

this year im doing things different

im trying not to be so obsessed with researching and ****. im sticking with my gut and going with it

doing 3 leagues (friends/work/misc(aware2) this year instead of a bunch of leagues

MUST. NOT. LET. FANTASY. TAKE. OVER. LIFE

i say that every year. 100 mocks later and i'm at the draft with my heart pounding like a crazy person.

my live in-person draft is 9/3 and with 2-3 weeks left i'm going to spend way too much time analyzing/thinking about it even though i said i wouldn't this year. oh well.

one thing i thought i wouldn't do, but did anyway, was start chatting it up and mocking in july. always a bad idea because ADPs change drastically. when latavius murray busted out a 17 yard carry i was like god damnit. him and lamar miller have been climbing and climbing.

[Murph0408]

...speaking of mocks. latest 12 man. very happy with this. would go to war with it. and as you see i'm still targeting latavius and lamar. 9th pick. probably reached on marshall but allen robinson is my guy as well.

1.9
C.J. Anderson, DEN
2.4
Julio Jones, ATL
3.9
Lamar Miller, MIA
4.4
Latavius Murray, OAK
5.9
Brandon Marshall, NYJ
6.4
Cam Newton, CAR
7.9
Chris Ivory, NYJ
8.4
Allen Robinson, JAC
9.9
Arian Foster, HOU
10.4
Steve Smith, BAL
11.9
Tyler Eifert, CIN
12.4
Jay Cutler, CHI
13.9
John Brown, ARI
14.4
Carolina Panthers, Car
15.9
Mason Crosby, GB

[The_Albatross]

...speaking of mocks. latest 12 man. very happy with this. would go to war with it. and as you see i'm still targeting latavius and lamar. 9th pick. probably reached on marshall but allen robinson is my guy as well.

1.9
C.J. Anderson, DEN
2.4
Julio Jones, ATL
3.9
Lamar Miller, MIA
4.4
Latavius Murray, OAK
5.9
Brandon Marshall, NYJ
6.4
Cam Newton, CAR
7.9
Chris Ivory, NYJ
8.4
Allen Robinson, JAC
9.9
Arian Foster, HOU
10.4
Steve Smith, BAL
11.9
Tyler Eifert, CIN
12.4
Jay Cutler, CHI
13.9
John Brown, ARI
14.4
Carolina Panthers, Car
15.9
Mason Crosby, GB

John Brown in the 13th and being drafted after Jay Cutler?

This is why mock drafts are useless.

[AXnyc]

...speaking of mocks. latest 12 man. very happy with this. would go to war with it. and as you see i'm still targeting latavius and lamar. 9th pick. probably reached on marshall but allen robinson is my guy as well.

1.9
C.J. Anderson, DEN
2.4
Julio Jones, ATL
3.9
Lamar Miller, MIA
4.4
Latavius Murray, OAK
5.9
Brandon Marshall, NYJ
6.4
Cam Newton, CAR
7.9
Chris Ivory, NYJ
8.4
Allen Robinson, JAC
9.9
Arian Foster, HOU
10.4
Steve Smith, BAL
11.9
Tyler Eifert, CIN
12.4
Jay Cutler, CHI
13.9
John Brown, ARI
14.4
Carolina Panthers, Car
15.9
Mason Crosby, GB

Mirin Miller and Murray but I think you went a lil rb crazy.. Although iv been reaching for ivory myself. If Marshall pans out and you can felt Murray or Miller you are good... Just very bad wr depth and I like John brown.

[Nainoa]

So my standard league rewards for punt return kick returns- I'm tempted to pick up jarvis landry but i'm not sure how early I have to pick him- I believe his adp is around 7-8 round. So with the 1point/10 yard PR/KR how early would i strike for him? I'm thinking 5-6 round- 2 wr 2 rb 1 flex...

Would I be stretching if i go for him 5th. BTW i'm 4th pick in my snake draft

100+ yards in nearly every game with the combined points! ;O

thanks

In a situation like that I would target Sproles as your first priority in the 3rd round

Then I would fall back to Percy Harvin in the 6th

If both of those are gone, by the 6th, then I'd go Landry.

[Murph0408]

wellp, that's that for kevin white (stress fracture). had a feeling it was more serious than "shin splints"

[BeastModeFTW]

You would be surprised how many people don't pay attention to ADP when it comes to live drafts. Sometimes ADP turns out to not mean ****.

I've noticed people tend to go by the default rankings as opposed to the adp.

[EthanHun]

In a situation like that I would target Sproles as your first priority in the 3rd round

Then I would fall back to Percy Harvin in the 6th

If both of those are gone, by the 6th, then I'd go Landry.

I'm 2nd year playing this fantasy but I feel like the sproles is an obvious troll attempt (in the 3rd)- I may snag sproles and percy in the 10+ round just for shiggles

[Nainoa]

I'm 2nd year playing this fantasy but I feel like the sproles is an obvious troll attempt (in the 3rd)- I may snag sproles and percy in the 10+ round just for shiggles

Well look at it this way... In your league's scoring system giving you 1 point for every 10 return yards... That means Sproles would have scored an extra 51 points last year.

In standard (Non PPR) he scored 97 points last year... So that means he would have scored 148 points... That puts him right around Frank Gore and Gio Bernard for total points.

If your league is also 1PPR, then Sproles gains another 40 points up to 188...

Last year in 1 PPR Mark Ingram had 191. LeSean McCoy had 196.

I mean when you crunch the numbers those return yards really elevate the value of a utility player like Sproles. Especially when they're talking about getting him involved more in the passing game.

[Farley1324]

this year im doing things different

im trying not to be so obsessed with researching and ****. im sticking with my gut and going with it

doing 3 leagues (friends/work/misc(aware2) this year instead of a bunch of leagues

MUST. NOT. LET. FANTASY. TAKE. OVER. LIFE

I haven't done a single mock. Get on my level.

[kingofturtles]

In super late this year. Ive spent so much time researching the last two years that I just wiped myself out. Starting late this year but better than nothing.

manning with the first overall pick still a good idea?

[BiggyPharma]

In super late this year. Ive spent so much time researching the last two years that I just wiped myself out. Starting late this year but better than nothing.

manning with the first overall pick still a good idea?

If your league rewards each showing of a Papa John's commercial with him in it, yes.

[chroneos]

In super late this year. Ive spent so much time researching the last two years that I just wiped myself out. Starting late this year but better than nothing.

manning with the first overall pick still a good idea?

Yeah if you want last place.

Peyton's old, kubiak realizes this and will most likely increase running plays to take stress off of peyton's arm hopefully being able to keep him healthy throughout the year. I would let someone else fall into the peyton trap and take him too early.

[EthanHun]

Well look at it this way... In your league's scoring system giving you 1 point for every 10 return yards... That means Sproles would have scored an extra 51 points last year.

In standard (Non PPR) he scored 97 points last year... So that means he would have scored 148 points... That puts him right around Frank Gore and Gio Bernard for total points.

If your league is also 1PPR, then Sproles gains another 40 points up to 188...

Last year in 1 PPR Mark Ingram had 191. LeSean McCoy had 196.

I mean when you crunch the numbers those return yards really elevate the value of a utility player like Sproles. Especially when they're talking about getting him involved more in the passing game.

O wow ya my bad- I was thinking it was sarcasm- that actually makes good sense- Let me see my espn league says 100+ rushing= 5 bonus points but yahoo shows only 2 bonus points. Not sure which one is standard.

Lets see I'm try and do Jarvis Landry- the way you did Sproles-

Landry had 97 points in standard (according to the ESPN stats)

204 Punt returning yard= 20points
954 kick off return yards= 95 points
=200+ points

So unless MIA plans on taking him off the PR and KR duty it seems like he would be a up there in the 2nd round WR's near Mike Evans Jefferys Ty Hilton.- Does that seem right?

[EthanHun]

Percy Harvin- between the 2 teams- 433 Receiving 1 TD, 200 Yards rushing 1 TD, Kick return 780 yards - He also played for jets and seahawks- What are your outlook on his value at the bills? I don't really know how to calculate with their QB situation and also if the bills already have a KR/PR-Over all 1500 yards and 2 TD's isnt bad for a WR that doesn't even go off the boards in a normal league. I'd say that has him near jordan mattthews- who goes in the 5th round. That assuming he does similar stuff in buffalo- this seems riskier but if he falls to 7+ he be great value

[EthanHun]

Final player-

Devin Hester

500 yards 2 TD's 1 Rush TD- KR 1128 yards and PR 240 yards 1 TD

Yards 1800 yards 4 TD's damn so much value in PR KR

[Nainoa]

O wow ya my bad- I was thinking it was sarcasm- that actually makes good sense- Let me see my espn league says 100+ rushing= 5 bonus points but yahoo shows only 2 bonus points. Not sure which one is standard.

Lets see I'm try and do Jarvis Landry- the way you did Sproles-

Landry had 97 points in standard (according to the ESPN stats)

204 Punt returning yard= 20points
954 kick off return yards= 95 points
=200+ points

So unless MIA plans on taking him off the PR and KR duty it seems like he would be a up there in the 2nd round WR's near Mike Evans Jefferys Ty Hilton.- Does that seem right?

It's hard to use that the same number crunching I did with Sproles and apply it to guys like Landry and Harvin.

Sproles has an established skill set and he's in the same offense this year playing the same or an increased role.

Landy is so young... There's a decent chance that he's going to grow as a receiver and they take him out of the return game.

Harvin is a bit of a gadget player, so he's going to be really streaky. Also his role with the Bills hasn't been established.


Hester is on the downward slope of his return career.

Someone else to keep a close eye on is Tavon Austin.

He's had some streakiness and struggles at times in his career. Early on I've heard mixed reports on him. If he can rock himself in as a starting receiver for the Rams he could contribute some nice points with your system's return points.

Cordarrel Patterson could also be someone to keep an eye on.

As the preseason goes on more and more teams will shake out their roles for who's returning and who's starting, so it's really hard to put a value on guys other than Sproles right now.