I have been looking for a new program to start running, but I feel like many of them are light on volume/intensity. I like the idea of 5/3/1, I will likely run that in the future. The weights just seemed so light that it deterred me. I will use that when my lifts are stalling, not when they are steadily increasing as is.
I was thinking of using the following for bench, squat, deads, and OHP
Week 1: 4x8
Week 2: 5x5
Week 3: 7x3
Week 4: 6x2 (or 2+)
Deload or immediately repeat
Progressively lowering reps from 32, 25, 21, 12 as the weights increase, and adding 5lbs each month. I scaled back the %s for the first two months when I laid the numbers out for myself to ensure I won't miss a rep. I am confident that this will work, what do you guys think?
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Thread: Designing my own Program
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04-20-2015, 07:12 PM #1
Designing my own Program
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04-20-2015, 07:52 PM #9
I have it so that my 6x2 day will be my real 1rm in 12 weeks. I know that 5/3/1 is tried and true, but I just feel that for me personally, a bit more volume and heavier weight will benefit me, at least for now.
I will likely do each lift 1x week and on off days do sport-specific stuff.
And I will definitely be doing assistance exercises... just some off the top of my head - floor press, block pulls, deficit deads, front squats, hamstring work because mine need it, incline press, weighted pull-ups, one arm DB rows, bent-over rows, face pulls, etc... nothing out of the ordinary
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04-20-2015, 09:35 PM #10YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/NorthStrongSC
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04-20-2015, 10:05 PM #11
if I just work up heavier than the prescribed reps every session I will end up having to determine new percentages, there's almost no point in altering a program like that in my my opinion. It wouldn't be considered 5/3/1 then I think
I just can't bring myself to do such low reps on a 5/3/1 program, like a 3x3 day. 9 working reps for the main lift? Even if it works, mentally I want to work my main lifts more than that
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04-21-2015, 12:17 AM #12
I think your rep scheme sounds good with the percentages you mentioned.
You mentioned that you want more volume than 5/3/1 but your program seems like it has less volume than 5/3/1 for the main lifts assuming you're doing them once a week. The majority of volume with 5/3/1 is accounted for in assistance like the BBB 5x10 template.
With your program I'd do each movement 2x per week, 1 day light (4x8 or 5x5) and then 1 day heavy (7x3) or (6x2) to get the volume up. Do the opposite rep scheme the following week then add your 5lbs (or less) on the 3rd week and repeat.Best Lifts:
Gym
535/325/535
Meet
1383 (528/325/530) @ 210lbs
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04-21-2015, 12:54 AM #13
I think it sounds pretty good, but I would do it twice a week, perhaps incorporating it into a 4 times a week template e.g:
> 2 upper body days: Your reps scheme for bench+ downsets+ accessories, perhaps you can do OHP on one of those days (3X5)
> 2 lower body days: Your rep scheme for squats. Do DLs after squats, but you may want to lower total reps for DL.Meet PR: 230/ 135/ 262.5 [627.5] (in kgs)
506/ 297/ 578 [1,381] (in lbs)
Weight: 92kg (202lbs)
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04-21-2015, 01:48 PM #18
Over half of your training for every lift is spent over 90% 1RM. It will likely be very draining. Theres no need to deload every 4 weeks (or at least there shouldn't be if you progress at a good pace for your training status).
I'd recommend using a method that works and not fuuk with it too much, unless you have the knowledge and experience to do so (which most don't).
You're likely going to try things that wont work for you. Thats life. You never know until you try.B. Kinesiology
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04-21-2015, 09:41 PM #19
I think only the 6x2 days would be 90% over his true 1RM since he stated earlier that his percentages are worked from reduced 1RMs.
Volume is the primary factor which causes fatigue anyway so as long as he's not going to failure, I don't see a problem with the intensities he's using.
OP I'm with you on not doing 531. Boring but big is named boring for a reason. Who wants to spend their time in the gym doing 5x10 sets at 50%. Going for rep PRs on the + sets is one of the few things I like about the program.
I tried 531 for few months, made a small amount of progress on ohp and squat but bench and dead didn't move. The program has got a good reputation so it obviously works for some.
Ditching 531 and eventually running a program written myself is the best thing I've done for my numbers. You don't need a degree to write something that works for you. "For you" being the key phrase.
Everyone's advice here is going to biased towards their own style of training so just try it for a few months and see like others have said.Best Lifts:
Gym
535/325/535
Meet
1383 (528/325/530) @ 210lbs
Log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=158784953
IG: @chieftainduke
Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/chieftainduke
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