Makes you think of the Great Filter Theory
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Filter
Have we passed the filter? Are we the first advanced civilization? Or have we not hit the filter yet?
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04-16-2015, 10:00 PM #615/23
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04-16-2015, 10:01 PM #62
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04-16-2015, 10:01 PM #63
And? 100,000 galaxies is a lot.
Also consider:
" The team first selected 100,000 galaxies that looked most promising for hosting alien life out of nearly 100 million galaxies, and started scanning their emitted heat."
So it wasn't a random 100,000 galaxies! They had 100 million galaxies, and they chose the best 100,000.
What more do you want from them?
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04-16-2015, 10:01 PM #64
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04-16-2015, 10:02 PM #65
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04-16-2015, 10:03 PM #66
Lol @ how these people basically did the equivalent of scanning a metal detector across space and then finding nothing. Like this is an efficient way to determine whether life exists. We are billions of light years in between all of these galaxies. Also lol @ how they are expecting futuristic ayy lmao Aliens with UFO discs and lasers. There is life out there brahs, just maybe not 'Alien' life. I think, at max, in the next 20 years scientists will find some form of microbial life or evidence of past life.
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04-16-2015, 10:04 PM #67
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04-16-2015, 10:04 PM #68
On a similar note, this is the first issue off the top of my head. Even with the best minds on the planet working on this and calculating for all the variables they can, the unknowns with using light spectra (true vs. false redshifts [and blueshifts], scattering, absorption, flaring, even instrumental errors [especially if they are using an interferometer, which is likely]) from a single pass would make the data near useless with this small of a sample size, the margin of error would be huge. This goes both ways, if they did find 'advanced life'.
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04-16-2015, 10:06 PM #69
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04-16-2015, 10:07 PM #72
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04-16-2015, 10:09 PM #73
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04-16-2015, 10:09 PM #74
Regardless of proportion, 100,000 galaxies is 100,000 galaxies, and that is a large sample size.
Plus:
" The team first selected 100,000 galaxies that looked most promising for hosting alien life out of nearly 100 million galaxies, and started scanning their emitted heat."
So it wasn't a random 100,000 galaxies. They had 100 million galaxies, and they chose to scrutinize the best 100,000.
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04-16-2015, 10:11 PM #75
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04-16-2015, 10:17 PM #77
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04-16-2015, 10:22 PM #78
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04-16-2015, 10:25 PM #79
We have only been around 100k years, probably only made a technological dent the last 100 years or so on a planet 4B years old. We aren't going to be around much longer either as a species relatively speaking - almost zero chance of homosapiens to be around in 200M years lol. It's not like they are seeing 200M years at a time.
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04-16-2015, 10:26 PM #80
Do you know a lot of scientists? Because most of the ones I know were pretty open-minded and were always telling us newbies that we should not have some rigid and unchanging view on things as we're all still learning. A number were religious, but the vast vast majority admitted that things like evolution did not mean gods and such were not real. They just taught us to approach things with an open mind and ask questions to lead you to your own conclusions. So unless you're hanging around some cult of hardcore people who happen to be scientists, I somehow doubt your description is very accurate. As long as you don't state something so ridiculously over-the-top that it sounds like a child came up with it, at least with no proof or scientific basis.
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04-16-2015, 10:26 PM #81
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04-16-2015, 10:29 PM #82
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04-16-2015, 10:29 PM #83"Originally Posted by dr. hamstrung
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04-16-2015, 10:29 PM #84
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04-16-2015, 10:33 PM #85
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04-16-2015, 10:34 PM #86
Statistically, it is big. You mean "proportionally, it's not."
Again, why should it matter if 100,000 galaxies is small in comparison to the whole universe? Is not 100,000 galaxies large?
The world's population is around 8 billion. If we study 100 million people, then we have just studied a small percentage of humans. Does that small percentage invalidate the findings made during that examination of 100 million people? Can we can not make reasonable inferences / conclusions about humanity based on that study of 100 million people?
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04-16-2015, 10:35 PM #87
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04-16-2015, 10:37 PM #88
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04-16-2015, 10:41 PM #89
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04-16-2015, 10:44 PM #90
Supposition -- Who is to say we can't survive 200 million years? The dinosaurs lived for nearly 200 million years, and they had no brains.
The fact that we've made the progress which we have made in just 200,000 years means the aliens would have definitely been visible in this study. If in 200,000 years we've come this far, then a civilization millions or billions of years old would be amazing, no? Interstellar travel should be possible for such a civilization, but this study shows no interstellar travel has occurred.
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