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    Makes you think of the Great Filter Theory

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Filter

    Have we passed the filter? Are we the first advanced civilization? Or have we not hit the filter yet?
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    Originally Posted by AbbeBusoni View Post

    Dr. Jason T. Wright, the lead author of the study and astrophysics professor at the Penn State’s Center for Exoplanets and Habitable Worlds, wrote in a study review that the surveyed galaxies were billions of years old so they had all time in the Universe to be filled with alien civilizations, if they did exist.

    Here you go ******* I couldn't explain it any better

    And you picked out a single word to put in quotation, don't back track now you fukking moron (AbbeBusoni, this is not directed towards you)
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    Originally Posted by multipleorgasm View Post
    That represents approximately 0.0001% of the number of galaxies in the universe.
    And? 100,000 galaxies is a lot.

    Also consider:

    " The team first selected 100,000 galaxies that looked most promising for hosting alien life out of nearly 100 million galaxies, and started scanning their emitted heat."

    So it wasn't a random 100,000 galaxies! They had 100 million galaxies, and they chose the best 100,000.

    What more do you want from them?
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    Originally Posted by AbbeBusoni View Post
    The fundamental law of thermodynamics says that they would be easily detectable. See this quote:

    "Whether an advanced spacefaring civilization uses the large amounts of energy from its galaxy's stars to power computers, space flight, communication, or something we can't yet imagine, fundamental thermodynamics tells us that this energy must be radiated away as heat in the mid-infrared wavelengths," Wright said. "This same basic physics causes your computer to radiate heat while it is turned on."


    You could suppose the fundamental laws of thermodynamics that we know is wrong, but that is just that --- a supposition.
    or that their technology surpasses anything we can imagine or have knowledge of.

    most modern scientist are the equivalent of the people that would have had Copernicus burned at the stake.
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    Lol @ how these people basically did the equivalent of scanning a metal detector across space and then finding nothing. Like this is an efficient way to determine whether life exists. We are billions of light years in between all of these galaxies. Also lol @ how they are expecting futuristic ayy lmao Aliens with UFO discs and lasers. There is life out there brahs, just maybe not 'Alien' life. I think, at max, in the next 20 years scientists will find some form of microbial life or evidence of past life.
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    lmao lots of bs


    Aliens exist, they are just hiding it, even the government knows
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    Originally Posted by Bar182 View Post
    Are you for real? if a galaxy is 4 million light years away what we view is the galaxy in its state 4 million years ago.
    On a similar note, this is the first issue off the top of my head. Even with the best minds on the planet working on this and calculating for all the variables they can, the unknowns with using light spectra (true vs. false redshifts [and blueshifts], scattering, absorption, flaring, even instrumental errors [especially if they are using an interferometer, which is likely]) from a single pass would make the data near useless with this small of a sample size, the margin of error would be huge. This goes both ways, if they did find 'advanced life'.
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    Originally Posted by srom12 View Post
    Lol @ how these people basically did the equivalent of scanning a metal detector across space and then finding nothing. Like this is an efficient way to determine whether life exists. We are billions of light years in between all of these galaxies. Also lol @ how they are expecting futuristic ayy lmao Aliens with UFO discs and lasers. There is life out there brahs, just maybe not 'Alien' life. I think, at max, in the next 20 years scientists will find some form of microbial life or evidence of past life.
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    Originally Posted by joshewwah View Post
    lmao lots of bs


    Aliens exist, they are just hiding it, even the government knows
    Alien lifeforms theoretically exist

    you assuming they have technology to hide their presense is laughable at best. Tin foil hat dumb fuk, u people never cease to amaze me with your fact less conspiracy theories
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    Originally Posted by srom12 View Post
    Lol @ how these people basically did the equivalent of scanning a metal detector across space and then finding nothing. Like this is an efficient way to determine whether life exists. 100s of billions of light years in between us and those galaxies might make it a little inaccurate. Also lol @ how they are expecting futuristic ayy lmao Aliens with UFO discs and lasers. There is life out there brahs, just maybe not 'Alien' life. I think, at max, in the next 20 years scientists will find some form of microbial life or evidence of past life.
    These are astronomers who have dedicated their entire lives to studying this field. If they can't make the best judgments on this subject, then no one else can.
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    There are AT LEAST 100 billion galaxies. We only "searched" 0.000001% of them.

    Guess that means we should give up.
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    Originally Posted by STLmisc View Post
    Alien lifeforms theoretically exist

    you assuming they have technology to hide their presense is laughable at best. Tin foil hat dumb fuk, u people never cease to amaze me with your fact less conspiracy theories
    Then according to you the government is 100% benevolent and altruistic, they clearly put the lives of the 99% above themselves.
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    Originally Posted by Airror View Post
    There are AT LEAST 100 billion galaxies. We only "searched" 0.000001% of them.

    Guess that means we should give up.
    Regardless of proportion, 100,000 galaxies is 100,000 galaxies, and that is a large sample size.

    Plus:

    " The team first selected 100,000 galaxies that looked most promising for hosting alien life out of nearly 100 million galaxies, and started scanning their emitted heat."

    So it wasn't a random 100,000 galaxies. They had 100 million galaxies, and they chose to scrutinize the best 100,000.
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    unless you produce some spoon pics in each planet, in each galaxy, then i won't believe you.
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    Originally Posted by joshewwah View Post
    Then according to you the government is 100% benevolent and altruistic, they clearly put the lives of the 99% above themselves.
    I never made such a claim, negged srs.

    Hard headed piece of chit, people like you are why general intelligence is declining in youth because they believe your fact less babble "bc it sounds true"

    Seriously, fuk you and your tin foil hat, you are the antithesis of logic
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    Sure sounds like you didn't know.
    Sounds like u made an assumption, jackass

    And Rhotic I'm not done with you, u gonna make a rebuttal or just bask in your stupidity and remain closeminded?
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    Lol. The seti program is the biggest joke at nasa. BRB 150 million to find aliens. BRB no aliens after searching for over 25 years. Give it a rest. We are alone in the universe. Carl Sagan was wrong and a nut job.
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    Originally Posted by AbbeBusoni View Post
    From one of the articles:

    Dr. Jason T. Wright, the lead author of the study and astrophysics professor at the Penn State’s Center for Exoplanets and Habitable Worlds, wrote in a study review that the surveyed galaxies were billions of years old so they had all time in the Universe to be filled with alien civilizations, if they did exist.


    So even if they see a galaxy 4 -50 million years ago, that time-span is still not long in comparison to billions of years. If an advanced civilization has survived for, say, 200 million years (a little over what the dinosaurs lived), they would have been undeniably visible in this study.
    We have only been around 100k years, probably only made a technological dent the last 100 years or so on a planet 4B years old. We aren't going to be around much longer either as a species relatively speaking - almost zero chance of homosapiens to be around in 200M years lol. It's not like they are seeing 200M years at a time.
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    or that their technology surpasses anything we can imagine or have knowledge of.

    most modern scientist are the equivalent of the people that would have had Copernicus burned at the stake.
    Do you know a lot of scientists? Because most of the ones I know were pretty open-minded and were always telling us newbies that we should not have some rigid and unchanging view on things as we're all still learning. A number were religious, but the vast vast majority admitted that things like evolution did not mean gods and such were not real. They just taught us to approach things with an open mind and ask questions to lead you to your own conclusions. So unless you're hanging around some cult of hardcore people who happen to be scientists, I somehow doubt your description is very accurate. As long as you don't state something so ridiculously over-the-top that it sounds like a child came up with it, at least with no proof or scientific basis.
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    these astronomers will have some cosmic jimmy rustling when they find out the aliens are actually the demons from another dimension that the scripture has warned them about for thousands of years =x
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    Originally Posted by srom12 View Post
    Lol @ how these people basically did the equivalent of scanning a metal detector across space and then finding nothing. Like this is an efficient way to determine whether life exists. We are billions of light years in between all of these galaxies. Also lol @ how they are expecting futuristic ayy lmao Aliens with UFO discs and lasers. There is life out there brahs, just maybe not 'Alien' life. I think, at max, in the next 20 years scientists will find some form of microbial life or evidence of past life.

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    Originally Posted by AbbeBusoni View Post
    Regardless of proportion, 100,000 galaxies is 100,000 galaxies, and that is a large sample size.

    Plus:

    " The team first selected 100,000 galaxies that looked most promising for hosting alien life out of nearly 100 million galaxies, and started scanning their emitted heat."

    So it wasn't a random 100,000 galaxies. They had 100 million galaxies, and they chose to scrutinize the best 100,000.
    statistically, it's not
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    Originally Posted by 5x10 View Post
    statistically, it's not
    Statistically, it is big. You mean "proportionally, it's not."

    Again, why should it matter if 100,000 galaxies is small in comparison to the whole universe? Is not 100,000 galaxies large?

    The world's population is around 8 billion. If we study 100 million people, then we have just studied a small percentage of humans. Does that small percentage invalidate the findings made during that examination of 100 million people? Can we can not make reasonable inferences / conclusions about humanity based on that study of 100 million people?
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    I've seen aliens so fuk all yall
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    Originally Posted by Dec4y View Post
    We have only been around 100k years, probably only made a technological dent the last 100 years or so on a planet 4B years old. We aren't going to be around much longer either as a species relatively speaking - almost zero chance of homosapiens to be around in 200M years lol. It's not like they are seeing 200M years at a time.
    Supposition -- Who is to say we can't survive 200 million years? The dinosaurs lived for nearly 200 million years, and they had no brains.

    The fact that we've made the progress which we have made in just 200,000 years means the aliens would have definitely been visible in this study. If in 200,000 years we've come this far, then a civilization millions or billions of years old would be amazing, no? Interstellar travel should be possible for such a civilization, but this study shows no interstellar travel has occurred.
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