King of GDA Supplements?

[kbayne]

Interesting. I'm on a ketogenic diet and I only consume Burn24 during those carb binging days. Would it be safe to consume 2 servings (total of 8 pills, 4 per serving) of Defuse, if one were to carb binge twice during the day?

I might give this Defuse a run and see how it compares to Burn24. Not that big of a fan of some of the ingredients in Burn24 like the green coffee bean. Heard banaba is more effective than gcb when it comes to blood glucose reduction.

That would be an ideal situation to utilize Defuse.

[JohnSmeton]

I use regular ala, and Glycobol (which has na-r-ala [and other insulin mimetics], N-r-ala, is 10-30 times more powerful than r-ala, and r-ala is 50% more powerful than ala)

[Mr.Cooper69]

I use regular ala, and Glycobol (which has na-r-ala [and other insulin mimetics], N-r-ala, is 10-30 times more powerful than r-ala, and r-ala is 50% more powerful than ala)

Can you post evidence for all statements in your post (all of them).

Na-R-ALA isn't 10-30 times more potent than R-ALA. And I assume you meant r-ala is 100% more potent than ala. In either case, you're wrong because s-ala interferes with R-ala absorption.

Burn24 and recompadrol are DCed afaik? Perhaps still for sale though

New slintensity looks good, berberine is always a safe bet

[kissdadookie]

Haven't been up to date with supplements for the past year. Is Burn 24 still king of the hill as far as GDAs go?

Partition-MD as others have mentioned is coming soon (hopefully dropping this month), I personally can't wait to see what the profile is on it. Coming from Meadows, I of course have high hopes.

Not a GDA per se but it's marketed as a nutrient partitioner, Indigo-3G has performed quite well for me when I was using it for months on end (~8ish). Though I don't know how well it would work for you though since iirc you're forever on a ketogenic diet and C3G ASFAIK is something that is used to help control blood sugar levels and keep insulin sensitivity in line (so it is expected for one to be consuming a good amount of carbs regularly) and is something to be used consistently for a period of time. There's some indication that it helps mitigate body fat gain (think there was a more recent study on cyanidins that was published), one of the mechanisms there was reducing fat cell inflammation IIRC. Chit is pricey though (not just an Indigo-3G thing, if you priced out ProC3G products @ 600 mg of C3G per day, they all basically cost a lot).

[The Solution]

Partition-MD as others have mentioned is coming soon (hopefully dropping this month), I personally can't wait to see what the profile is on it. Coming from Meadows, I of course have high hopes.

Aaron said it could be in the warehouse friday broski.

[kissdadookie]

Aaron said it could be in the warehouse friday broski.

Oh man! Waiting for John to release his video on the product. I wonder which will drop first, Prime revealing the profile or John explaining the profile in his video o.O

[The Solution]

Oh man! Waiting for John to release his video on the product. I wonder which will drop first, Prime revealing the profile or John explaining the profile in his video o.O

or Melon Intra-MD on the horizon.
I got to talk to Aaron @ The arnold, he was telling me what was in the formula and why John did it this way. There is a lot of research behind it and ingredients that people are going to raise an eyebrow over. There was a lot of work done putting it together.

[kissdadookie]

or Melon Intra-MD on the horizon.
I got to talk to Aaron @ The arnold, he was telling me what was in the formula and why John did it this way. There is a lot of research behind it and ingredients that people are going to raise an eyebrow over. There was a lot of work done putting it together.

Melon Intra-MD, almost forgot about that

[kissdadookie]

Partition-MD Profile

Cinnulin-PF™ 250mg †
Aurora Blue™ (4-5% as Anthocyanins) 100mg †
Grains-of-Paradise (Seed) (Stnd to 12.5% 6-Paradol) 75mg †
Super Berberine™ 50mg †
R-Alpha Lipoic Acid 50mg †
Bitter Melon (Momordica charantia) (stnd for Charantin) 50mg †
Bioperine™ 5mg †
Biotin 2.5mg †
Chromium Picolinate 200mcg †

[The Solution]

Partition-MD Profile

Cinnulin-PF™ 250mg †
Aurora Blue™ (4-5% as Anthocyanins) 100mg †
Grains-of-Paradise (Seed) (Stnd to 12.5% 6-Paradol) 75mg †
Super Berberine™ 50mg †
R-Alpha Lipoic Acid 50mg †
Bitter Melon (Momordica charantia) (stnd for Charantin) 50mg †
Bioperine™ 5mg †
Biotin 2.5mg †
Chromium Picolinate 200mcg †

Told ya

[tjwoody]

Partition-MD Profile

Cinnulin-PF™ 250mg †
Aurora Blue™ (4-5% as Anthocyanins) 100mg †
Grains-of-Paradise (Seed) (Stnd to 12.5% 6-Paradol) 75mg †
Super Berberine™ 50mg †
R-Alpha Lipoic Acid 50mg †
Bitter Melon (Momordica charantia) (stnd for Charantin) 50mg †
Bioperine™ 5mg †
Biotin 2.5mg †
Chromium Picolinate 200mcg †

looking forward to trying this.

[XCriticalBenchX]

Partition-MD Profile

Cinnulin-PF™ 250mg †
Aurora Blue™ (4-5% as Anthocyanins) 100mg †
Grains-of-Paradise (Seed) (Stnd to 12.5% 6-Paradol) 75mg †
Super Berberine™ 50mg †
R-Alpha Lipoic Acid 50mg †
Bitter Melon (Momordica charantia) (stnd for Charantin) 50mg †
Bioperine™ 5mg †
Biotin 2.5mg †
Chromium Picolinate 200mcg †

Bitter Melon is a solid ingredient.. I know diabetics who have dropped pharmacological therapy doses due to the inclusion of bitter melon into there diet.

Mike

[NewAgeMayan]

Burn24 and recompadrol are DCed afaik? Perhaps still for sale though

I dont think B24 has been DC'd, just oos everywhere at the mo. Apparently places should be restocked in the next week or so (according to Omega customer service).

And yeah there is still a few places to buy Recomp.

[beastmode47]

Would it be ok to take 4 pills of Slintensity at 1 time? According to the label, 1 pill per 6g of carbs. I normally eat a dozen cupcakes in 1 sitting when I do carb re-feeds.

Also, what's the reason Burn 24 would be DC? Ingredients are not illicit looking ingredients.

[Geoforce]

Would it be ok to take 4 pills of Slintensity at 1 time? According to the label, 1 pill per 6g of carbs. I normally eat a dozen cupcakes in 1 sitting when I do carb re-feeds.

Also, what's the reason Burn 24 would be DC? Ingredients are not illicit looking ingredients.

Holy God no. It's 1 pill per 60 grams of carbs. It's extremely potent, I only took two capsules on the most heinous of cheat meals.

[beastmode47]

Holy God no. It's 1 pill per 60 grams of carbs. It's extremely potent, I only took two capsules on the most heinous of cheat meals.

12 cupcakes is definitely more than 60 grams, or even 120 g of carbs. I would say I consume about 3000 Calories worth of sweets during the carb reefed/binge days. Would it then be ok to take 4 pills?

Also, I meant to say 1 pill per 60g of carbs. I missed the 0.

[kbayne]

12 cupcakes is definitely more than 60 grams, or even 120 g of carbs. I would say I consume about 3000 Calories worth of sweets during the carb reefed/binge days. Would it then be ok to take 4 pills?

Also, I meant to say 1 pill per 60g of carbs. I missed the 0.

Still no need for 4 caps.

You'd be better off grabbing Defuse and throwing in a serving with a cap or two of slintensity

[Geoforce]

Still no need for 4 caps.

You'd be better off grabbing Defuse and throwing in a serving with a cap or two of slintensity

Yeah. It's not a solid number either, just what we threw out as a guideline. It's not like if you hit 61 grams you better have two. I wouldn't dose more than 2 at a time, and the max I would do is probably 3 in a day (spread out).

[misfit28]

So how much Berberine is actually part of the Super Berberine complex?

[kissdadookie]

So how much Berberine is actually part of the Super Berberine complex?

I've inquired, just waiting for a reply They've gotten back from FIBO not too long ago.

[misfit28]

I've inquired, just waiting for a reply They've gotten back from FIBO not too long ago.

Thanks, man. Just curious

[najee786]

This was the only GDA post this year I could find and to chime in for OP.

I've only used slin sane v2 and will never change. Whether it is bulking or cutting, slin sane will never let you down. It's a damn right staple up there with fish oils and a multi.

I've found taking slin pre bed I get the best sleep ever and wake up so dry and shredded. I still remember a few months ago being 14% waking up feeling like I'm 11-12%! (Then later in the night feeling like 14% again haha).

I've only ever needed one slin a day and it does the trick. Keeps my veins shining and keeps my stomach tucked in (even on 700g carbs of ridiculous Ramadan fasts in the space of 30 minutes after not eating or drinking for 20 hours).

Don't want to sound like a myopic fool but will never consider any other GDA as Genonmyx smashed this supplement.

[Deadliftin]

Same as above (haven't seen many other GDA threads) so quick question...

I have taken a few of them over the years with great results (Slin sane comes to mind) but there are two specifically I have taken that each made me very sick one time that I took them:

Anabolic Pump was first. Got through probably 5 doses and on dose 6, downhill fast.

Burn24- 90% of the time it worked really well but twice I got the following symptoms (same with AP):

- violent vomiting
- shakes
- $hits
- weakness

Each time it lasted a good 8-12 hours. I know it sounds like a blood sugar issue but I believe I made sure to eat more than enough carbs at all times of dosing. Does anyone know if there is a common ingredient that could have caused this? Could it have been a total fluke and I just ate something bad and it was a coincidence?

Would love to get some opinions as looking forward to some new products but want to be on the lookout for anything I should stay away from.

Thanks

[kbayne]

Same as above (haven't seen many other GDA threads) so quick question...

I have taken a few of them over the years with great results (Slin sane comes to mind) but there are two specifically I have taken that each made me very sick one time that I took them:

Anabolic Pump was first. Got through probably 5 doses and on dose 6, downhill fast.

Burn24- 90% of the time it worked really well but twice I got the following symptoms (same with AP):

- violent vomiting
- shakes
- $hits
- weakness

Each time it lasted a good 8-12 hours. I know it sounds like a blood sugar issue but I believe I made sure to eat more than enough carbs at all times of dosing. Does anyone know if there is a common ingredient that could have caused this? Could it have been a total fluke and I just ate something bad and it was a coincidence?

Would love to get some opinions as looking forward to some new products but want to be on the lookout for anything I should stay away from.

Thanks

Are you a type 2 diabetic?

Could be you were dosing too much berberine in one sitting?

You may respond negatively to berberine (glucagon-like peptide-1 receptor;GLP-1), which can cause all the symptoms you just described above.

[aaronuconn]

This was the only GDA post this year I could find and to chime in for OP.

I've only used slin sane v2 and will never change. Whether it is bulking or cutting, slin sane will never let you down. It's a damn right staple up there with fish oils and a multi.

I've found taking slin pre bed I get the best sleep ever and wake up so dry and shredded. I still remember a few months ago being 14% waking up feeling like I'm 11-12%! (Then later in the night feeling like 14% again haha).

I've only ever needed one slin a day and it does the trick. Keeps my veins shining and keeps my stomach tucked in (even on 700g carbs of ridiculous Ramadan fasts in the space of 30 minutes after not eating or drinking for 20 hours).

Don't want to sound like a myopic fool but will never consider any other GDA as Genonmyx smashed this supplement.

A lot of people really like the pre-bed serving for Slin Sane. I think it's via the potential for lower blood glucose levels equaling inhibition of hypothalamic ****tostatin release which would cause a better release of GH pulses throughout the night.

I haven't done a pre-bed dose in a while with any GDA's. A lot of people like Agmatine pre-bed due to its anxiolytic effects primarily, but it also may act as a GDA.

[Deadliftin]

Are you a type 2 diabetic?

Could be you were dosing too much berberine in one sitting?

You may respond negatively to berberine (glucagon-like peptide-1 receptor;GLP-1), which can cause all the symptoms you just described above.

I appreciate the insight.

No diabetes thankfully (both these experiences were more than 6 months ago, but blood work about 6 months ago indicated sugars were fine).

Any idea how much Berberine can be too much? More specifically for someone with a sensitivity? I only ever did one cap of Burn24 so it's not like I pushed the limits.

Don't get me wrong, I have my beloved Agmatine for GDA effects so it's all good if Berberine is the culprit. Just wish I could know for sure.

Thanks again

[aaronuconn]

I appreciate the insight.

No diabetes thankfully (both these experiences were more than 6 months ago, but blood work about 6 months ago indicated sugars were fine).

Any idea how much Berberine can be too much? More specifically for someone with a sensitivity? I only ever did one cap of Burn24 so it's not like I pushed the limits.

Don't get me wrong, I have my beloved Agmatine for GDA effects so it's all good if Berberine is the culprit. Just wish I could know for sure.

Thanks again

The amount in Burn24 wouldn't be considered "too much". Many people take 2x as much as what's in Burn24, so it's difficult to pinpoint a culprit.

[Deadliftin]

The amount in Burn24 wouldn't be considered "too much". Many people take 2x as much as what's in Burn24, so it's difficult to pinpoint a culprit.

I thought so... That's why I was curious. Perhaps I just have an intolerance? Or maybe just pure chance that I got sucks those few times? I rarely throw up so hard to believe it's be that but crazier things have happened I guess.

Thanks man

[ajvitan]

A lot of people really like the pre-bed serving for Slin Sane. I think it's via the potential for lower blood glucose levels equaling inhibition of hypothalamic ****tostatin release which would cause a better release of GH pulses throughout the night.

I haven't done a pre-bed dose in a while with any GDA's. A lot of people like Agmatine pre-bed due to its anxiolytic effects primarily, but it also may act as a GDA.

I've actually have much improved sleep with 500mg agmatine, 100mg na-r-ala and 200mg of magnesium glycinate.

This usually accompanies my small shake and yogurt before bed to help keep me feeling full overnight and from waking up in the middle of the night hungry.

[Deadliftin]

I've actually have much improved sleep with 500mg agmatine, 100mg na-r-ala and 200mg of magnesium glycinate.

This usually accompanies my small shake and yogurt before bed to help keep me feeling full overnight and from waking up in the middle of the night hungry.

500mg Agmatine and 3mg Melatonin crew checking in...

Sleep is awesome