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    Why do these fukcing kunts always have to post a picture/selfie with animals they just shot dead on social media? Lmfao fukcing kunts I swear.
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    hunting man is much more thrilling
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    Originally Posted by eages View Post
    Why do these fukcing kunts always have to post a picture/selfie with animals they just shot dead on social media? Lmfao fukcing kunts I swear.
    Because they're impressed with their ability to kill a stationary 14ft tall target with a high powered rifle from 100M away?...Isn't that impressive marksmanship?
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    Originally Posted by eages View Post
    Why do these fukcing kunts always have to post a picture/selfie with animals they just shot dead on social media? Lmfao fukcing kunts I swear.
    If I blew a hole in the neck of a giraffe I'd take a picture with it and post it on your wall, u gonna cry?
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    Originally Posted by STLmisc View Post
    If I blew a hole in the neck of a giraffe I'd take a picture with it and post it on your wall, u gonna cry?
    I honestly believe that they would cry, no doubt about it.
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    Originally Posted by juiceyjay View Post
    "Well done. You managed to shoot a stationery, 14 foot peaceful creature with a high velocity rifle. Very sporting."

    gj Ricky man, fuk trophy hunters
    I'll post a rant on this because I used to have this little fantasy about going "in the woods" and hunting game and living off the land for as long as I could before I ran out of meat or the weather got too bad. Luckily like many things, I set out on my little journey by doing some research first, and it didn't take long to dispel my humble little Walden-esque dream with a steady dose of stark ****ing reality.

    Originally Posted by iNeedProteins View Post
    bet he wouldn't have the balls to say that to Joe Rogan

    This pic is the kind of stuff I'm talking about.

    Some rugged-looking man standing in a field with a freshly skinned and dressed slab of animal. Something he caught with his cunning and skill, stalked like the ancestors of old, right? You can just taste the blood on the meat, and it brings a sense of primordial satisfaction that 90% ground chuck in the store won't ever have no matter how rare you cook it.

    But the problem is this little fantasy died a long time ago with the rule of law. We figured out this thing called firearms which let us hunt far more efficiently than ever before. Keep in mind the Compound Bow wasn't even invented until the 1960's - long after we had well refined rifles and pistols of all kinds. After massacring a few hundred thousand herds of Buffalo sometime in the 19th Century, we found out it was probably a good idea to put rules on Hunting so a small collection of idiots didn't completely extinct a species of game.

    Fast forward to today. All land is owned - by someone. That ownership entails ownership of the game that is on it at any given time. You see, for Mr. Rogan to be standing there taking that picture, a lot of things had to happen. Foremost, Mr. Rogan had to have a license to Hunt. Secondly, given that it appears that's the shoulder of some large Elk or similar, it's possible Mr. Rogan had to pay for an additional tag or tax on this hunting license. Mr. Rogan had to be hunting the animal in the specific season it is legal to hunt the animal - some seasons are 1-2 days per year, and only a specified number of hunters are even allowed to purchase the opportunity to hunt particular animals or species.

    Let's keep going with one of the biggest ones: Mr. Rogan had to have permission to hunt on the land he was on. Now here's where it gets interesting, because 95% of the time, people who own hundreds of acres tend to know if there is game on their land. If you go hunting on their land without their permission you are now the definition of a poacher. So to even set a single foot on their land or to even shoot an animal that is one kunthair over the property line of their land you're going to need their permission - which they may or may not give you the privilege of purchasing from them for a fee that could be anywhere from a few hundred to a few thousand dollars - or more, depending on if the land owner specifically terraforms / cultivates the area to be conducive to the game you want to hunt.

    Now after paying out a few thousand in dosh to simply be on some land legally, Mr. Rogan has to obey all hunting laws which are going to vary from state to state. Can't shoot over bait, can't shoot over or within X distance of water, can't do this, can't do that. Assuming Mr. Rogan even sees an animal in the first place for the several thousand he's already spent, Mr. Rogan still has to MAKE the shot. Your $20 Tasco Scope from K-Mart is not going to cut it when it's barely daylight and roughly 20 degrees sitting 12 feet up in a stand. Mr. Rogan has to be wielding a rifle and scope worth a **** to stand a chance at taking an ethical (read: instantly or rapidly fatal) shot at an animal over 30 yards. Even then with the best equipment, if Mr. Rogan is not a practiced shot, he will likely miss even with an accurate weapon. I won't even go into the "challenge" of using a Compound, Crossbow, or if you want to be truly cruel, an old school Traditional Bow / Recurve.

    So faced with all these hurdles, what is Mr. Rogan to do? After all, he wants to hunt, but right now, it just looks like a lot of ****ing money just to be able to rent a scrip on land to sit in a freezing stand that could be packed with dozens others like him who are going to execute the first ****ing thing that walks by that isn't Bambi (and probably that too).

    Well then Mr. Rogan should fear no more, because for the low, low price of a few thousand more, he can simply have a "guide" escort him to a heated blind sitting in front of a feeder on a fenced-in private ranch where animals are literally grown and corn-fed to be vastly larger than their "wild" siblings.

    Yes, this all-expense package includes airfare and your own private chef who will cook the very animal you so bravely laid low. They will even ship you the meat (cut to your choice of course) AND the "Trophy" after you fly back home to your CEO $10k / day life so you can mount your "accomplishment" on your wall just like a "MAN."

    http://www.huntingtexastrophies.com/prices/

    So to wrap up this little rant on the state of "modern" hunting, I will reiterate: People need to realize that all land is owned and that no one in their right ****ing mind is letting you set a single foot on it without extorting some kind of money out of you because game is considered a resource. On top of this, there is a litany of laws and regs in place for hunters to protect the species (humans included). To a certain extent, I guess I can sympathize with the person who is willing to drop $20k on an African Safari "hunt" to bring back some Exotic trophy because let's face it: even the average ****ing Whitetail "trophy" involves about as much "cunning" or "skill" as paying for the opportunity of being the individual in the right place at the right time with a sighted in firearm of the appropriate caliber.

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    - Hunting isn't what most people think it is
    - Hunting ain't what it used to be
    - Modern hunting is an industry, not a pastime.
    - The vast majority of trophies and game meat of all kinds are bought and paid for unless poached illegally
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    Originally Posted by Shultzie View Post
    What I find funny is that noone is attacking the only person in this thread who actually has hand on experience with this(US_Ranger) because you have no ammo against him. Unlike you bunch of keyboard warriors flying off at the handle without knowing the facts or actually doing anything about it he has seen it first hand and been involved with it.
    I've been face-palming non-stop while reading this entire thread.

    It also goes to show that it doesn't matter what's right or wrong. It doesn't matter if someone knows what they're talking about. It doesn't matter if real life is right in your face. People REFUSE to ever change their opinion on something once they have it. It's unbelievable how stupid man-kind is when you think about it.
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    Originally Posted by PovertySpotter View Post
    those are domesticated animals purposely bred to be consumed. Surely you can see the difference, and why people would be opposed.

    Ummmm... you do know they abuse and torture a lot of the animals before they kill them to make us delicious breakfast.

    Earl's jimmies are rustled because jamal is balls deep in his 2/10 sloot wife so he goes to work at the slaughterhouse & literally kicks the siht out of a pig that has no idea why it's getting beaten only for it to be killed in a few weeks. Makes me want to commit genocide.

    fcuk this ghey earth & all the *******s on it
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    Once again, miscers show how sheltered and uninformed they are about safari hunting and the purpose it serves. It's all about your emotion and reality is thrown out the window. Same tactic those feminists you all love so much use, congrats.
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    Originally Posted by Vexidi View Post
    Once again, miscers show how sheltered and uninformed they are about safari hunting and the purpose it serves. It's all about your emotion and reality is thrown out the window. Same tactic those feminists you all love so much use, congrats.
    So explain it to me... I've seen the arguments on both sides, but in this case it's a giraffe. It's not a lion reeking havoc on a village, or Hyenas raiding food stores. It's a docile herbivore that doesn't bother anyone. I think hunting is great...without it we wouldn't be where we are now as a species...but a giraffe though?
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    Originally Posted by newleaseonlife View Post
    So explain it to me... I've seen the arguments on both sides, but in this case it's a giraffe. It's not a lion reeking havoc on a village, or Hyenas raiding food stores. It's a docile herbivore that doesn't bother anyone. I think hunting is great...without it we wouldn't be where we are now as a species...but a giraffe though?
    Herbivores taste a lot better than carnivores.

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    Originally Posted by second2noneBrah View Post
    What makes a giraffe more important then a deer?
    Nothing, but it just seems silly to brag about killing a giraffe. At least Deer are somewhat smart and fast and it's somewhat impressive to kill one.
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    Originally Posted by Kev1972 View Post
    Herbivores taste a lot better than carnivores.

    And who wouldn't want an authentic giraffe hide rug?

    I wouldn't, but that's just me...I guess. I don't really find much pleasure in shooting something i'm not going to eat.
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    This kinda **** straight rustles my jams.
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    Originally Posted by MrStealYoGrill View Post
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5iyNncvIrz8
    Lol @ shooting animals when you can do this
    lol wtf did i just watch, why catch it from the first place? damn psycho
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    Originally Posted by AA43560 View Post
    He doesnt have to give money to preserve them as long as he isnt out there fuking murdering them.
    Are u srs? ****ING HYPOCRITES!!!!! Those hunters who pay **** tons of $$$$ to hunt these majestic creatures do more for those beautiful animals than u or Juicey ever will! You know what will happen if big game hunters all of a sudden STOPPED HUNTING BIG GAME?

    Those majestic creatures u supposedly love so much would go extinct.
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    Originally Posted by newleaseonlife View Post
    So explain it to me... I've seen the arguments on both sides, but in this case it's a giraffe. It's not a lion reeking havoc on a village, or Hyenas raiding food stores. It's a docile herbivore that doesn't bother anyone. I think hunting is great...without it we wouldn't be where we are now as a species...but a giraffe though?
    Hey man, I'm not into trophy hunting but the merits have been discussed in every hunting thread ever posted here and still no one gets it because they don't want to get it. Not gonna bother at this point.
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    Originally Posted by incomingbrOMS View Post
    Why don't you provide some pictures of you being a positive impact through trophy hunting. You don't have any though. Which is literally the exact thing you are crying about. People being passionate about something without following through on it. If you wanna be a tough guy, go drop some money on some trophy hunts and then come back. Otherwise you're a hypocrite and you can kindly stop jocking on everyone ITT who has an opinion.
    False equivalency.. what if he's passionate about something other than big game hunting, u ****ing retard?
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    Originally Posted by US_Ranger View Post
    Hi MISC.

    I'm a former US army ranger.
    I'm also a former anti-poaching volunteer from central Africa.

    Very few of you have any idea what you're talking about. If you think hunting is destroying the African wildlife, you're an idiot. (srs) Please don't breed (srs) and please don't post. (srs)

    The money on hunts, especially big game hunts, is used to hire game scouts and run anti-poaching programs that stop illegal hunting. It's used to feed workers who run safaris so people can be educated about animals and it pays to bribe government officials so they don't shut game reserves down.

    Stop posting if you have no idea what you're talking about. And PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE stop posting pictures and stories of that stupid woman who was a diesel mechanic and has no idea what the fck anti-poaching even is. Goddamn it.
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    Originally Posted by RICHSTRONG View Post
    Anybody else?? Lotta crybabies but ain't no one putting up proof that they even care until some sloot/dude is posted with a majestic Afican animal?? C'mon..plenty of Charities to help the preservation of these animals out there. Someone post up an electronic receipt..or even a quick pic of something you received in the mail. ANyone?? I'll rep your crybaby ass if you do? I mean how sick is it you'd rather see the huinter get killed when that's the ONLY thing sustaining the actual survival of the species. IS THE RICH HUNTERS MONEY. It sure as fuk ain't little fuks like the ones complainin in this and every other hunting thread. Post it up *******s. You obviously are passionate...you want the species to survive, so i'm sure at least ONE Miscer has donated something?? anything?? If not..shut your gotdam mouth
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    Originally Posted by juiceyjay View Post
    cows, chickens and pigs are mass produced for the soul purpose of consumption, this bitch went out of her way to go to another continent and shoot a wild giraffe. gtfo comparing this to eating farm animals.
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    Originally Posted by RICHSTRONG View Post
    So how much do you donate to the preservation of these majestic creatures Juicey?? Post some receipts they give you for tax purposes. I'll wait...
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    Originally Posted by MrBest View Post
    trophy hunters can spin this issue all they want but there is no balance when china is invested in poaching
    And yet the only way to combat the poaching that China is so heavily invested in is to use the money gained from the big game hunters, to pay the anti-poachers to keep doing what they're paid to do. Quite the conundrum...
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    ITT massive amounts of fake concern for animals.

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    Originally Posted by Heaney View Post
    Jesus Christ you're dumb if you think the money goes into conservation

    "despite the wild claims that trophy hunting brings millions of dollars in revenue to local people in otherwise poor communities, there is no proof of this. Even pro-hunting organizations like the International Council for Game and Wildlife Conservation have reported that only 3 percent of revenue from trophy hunting ever makes it to the communities affected by hunting. The rest goes to national governments or foreign-based outfitters. The money that does come into Africa from hunting pales in comparison to the billions and billions generated from tourists who come just to watch wildlife. If lions and other animals continue to disappear from Africa, this vital source of income—nonconsumptive tourism—will end, adversely impacting people all over Africa."
    Where did anyone say the revenue went towards local communities? The money goes to animal preservations NOT people. If I knew the initial conditions I would gladly write out a basic equation showing you how stupid you really are.

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    Iam not completely against hunting in certain circumstances, lets face it the meat in supermarkets doesn't come out of thin air and often times those animals are kept in deplorable conditions, but obviously customers don't want to think about that... having said that,I find the act of posing like she did with the dead animal as really disgusting.
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    Hey Misc

    I did anti-poaching work. Why the fck does no one listen to what I'm saying?

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    Originally Posted by newleaseonlife View Post
    So explain it to me... I've seen the arguments on both sides, but in this case it's a giraffe. It's not a lion reeking havoc on a village, or Hyenas raiding food stores. It's a docile herbivore that doesn't bother anyone. I think hunting is great...without it we wouldn't be where we are now as a species...but a giraffe though?
    Ants and horses kill more people than Lions kill humans in Africa. The "protect the villagers" argument is laughable.
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    Don't understand the pleasure in a kill like this, but if it really is for the greater good so be it. If that one giraffe death saved 10 others from poachers I can't argue against it. Obviously I would rather it not happen at all but if its the difference between extinction and survival...well
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    Originally Posted by INSANEREACH View Post
    Iam not completely against hunting in certain circumstances, lets face it the meat in supermarkets doesn't come out of thin air and often times those animals are kept in deplorable conditions, but obviously customers don't want to think about that... having said that,I find the act of posing like she did with the dead animal as really disgusting.
    why, it's fkn dead. i've taken pictures of the deer i've killed and the fish i've caught.
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