Rogue Barbell Club

[urbanlifter]

I'm more interested in it's firmness compared to regular pads. It actually may be more durable, but if you get a gouge in it or a cut, not sure if you could just replace just the vinyl cover like you would on a normal pad. There's no repair, only a replace option.

Think it's like the polyurethane foam rolling pads, even if you puncture those things they are so tough they'd likely still stay together. I'd be open to testing it out, could always buy replacement pads from Edge Fitness if it gave in years down the road.

[urbanlifter]

Holy cow batman! Looking at getting some 5lb plates until Rogue has theirs in stock, Strength Co. wants $56.99 shipped for a single pair of 5's. Not sure Kabuki would be any better, sheesh....

Edit: That's the most painful purchase I've ever made!

[weisgarb]

Holy cow batman! Looking at getting some 5lb plates until Rogue has theirs in stock, Strength Co. wants $56.99 shipped for a single pair of 5's. Not sure Kabuki would be any better, sheesh....

The cost/pound for smaller plates is definitely crazy. Even Rogue is charging $4/lb plus shipping for a 5-lb pair.

When we did the Ivanko group buy in 2016, the price worked out to $1.74/lb for 45-lb plates and $2.66/lb for 2.5's after our bulk 30% discount was applied. If you opted for the 1.25 lb plates, the price went up to $4.48/lb.

[irongrandpa]

Holy cow batman! Looking at getting some 5lb plates until Rogue has theirs in stock, Strength Co. wants $56.99 shipped for a single pair of 5's. Not sure Kabuki would be any better, sheesh....

Edit: That's the most painful purchase I've ever made!

Should’ve kept all those vintage, made in US, York’s !

[mrcheeze36]

The cost/pound for smaller plates is definitely crazy. Even Rogue is charging $4/lb plus shipping for a 5-lb pair.

When we did the Ivanko group buy in 2016, the price worked out to $1.74/lb for 45-lb plates and $2.66/lb for 2.5's after our bulk 30% discount was applied. If you opted for the 1.25 lb plates, the price went up to $4.48/lb.

Did the $1.74/lb at the time include shipping?

[thejosef]

I am wondering if they'll release this for the Ohio DL bar. Not sure I'd be able to justify the price, but it would still be cool to feel the knurl and see if it grips in my hands any better than the original.

I've always said, the deep volcano style cut that Rogue uses cause more sharp edges than one sharp point would create, so even though the knurl pattern itself doesn't feel very aggressive, all those edges are tearing into your skin, and it's why I prefer knurl pattern of TPB, Kabuki, and the REP PB EX. That said, I have no issues with my SS OPB and it's essentially my daily driver of the three and I don't see myself looking to get one of these new Aggro bars, but I'm definitely curious to see one and give it try.

Well my 3x Aggro OPB came in. BOY they were not joking about this bar. I really thought this pattern would not "feel" as aggressive as they were touting, but I was dead wrong. This thing is painful to bench press with. It's a very nice bar, quality wise (stainless shaft and sleeves are nice), but I'm on the fence as to whether I actually "like" it or not. Lol. I will use it a few more sessions to see if I'll be keeping it or if I'll admit defeat and move on from it. It is definitely more aggressive than any other "mountain type" knurl bar I've owned.. namely the Kabuki power bar and the Vulcan Absolute Stainless Power Bar. The 3x Aggro is just a taller, sharper knurl. It's really something else. It is more aggressive and sharper than the normal OPB by a good bit. This 3x is gonna chew up my j-cups BAD.

So I have a shaved head and I'm now nervous getting under the 3x Aggro center knurl to squat that my head will hit that knurl and bleed. LOL. I have never even thought about that with another bar...

[weisgarb]

Did the $1.74/lb at the time include shipping?

My portion of the shipping worked out to $158 for 540 lbs, so that added about 30 cents/lb to the overall total.

[urbanlifter]

Well my 3x Aggro OPB came in. BOY they were not joking about this bar. I really thought this pattern would not "feel" as aggressive as they were touting, but I was dead wrong. This thing is painful to bench press with. It's a very nice bar, quality wise (stainless shaft and sleeves are nice), but I'm on the fence as to whether I actually "like" it or not. Lol. I will use it a few more sessions to see if I'll be keeping it or if I'll admit defeat and move on from it. It is definitely more aggressive than any other "mountain type" knurl bar I've owned.. namely the Kabuki power bar and the Vulcan Absolute Stainless Power Bar. The 3x Aggro is just a taller, sharper knurl. It's really something else. It is more aggressive and sharper than the normal OPB by a good bit. This 3x is gonna chew up my j-cups BAD.

So I have a shaved head and I'm now nervous getting under the 3x Aggro center knurl to squat that my head will hit that knurl and bleed. LOL. I have never even thought about that with another bar...

Maybe I'll just stick with the TPB then lol. That bar is way too expensive to roll the dice on, if it's more aggressive than the REP EX then I'd probably try to avoid it for heavy volume reps. Sounds like trying to lift with the Texas Deadlift Bar, it was borderline rediculous....

[Deep-Voiced-One]

weisgarb and mech,

Thanks for the low down on the other pad option, I'm gonna stick with the standard vinyl version if it's of the same firmness as the previous 2.0 which is legit solid, I also prefer closer to a 12" pad at 11.25" over 11" so in my opinion it would it would be the better of the two offerings.

I'm probably gonna get the 3.0 and give my girl the 2.0 at some point so it'll still be around our home gyms.

[mrcheeze36]

My portion of the shipping worked out to $158 for 540 lbs, so that added about 30 cents/lb to the overall total.

Oh ok, thank you. Thinking of getting revolvers and dumbbell buddy had a better/lower quote vs. iron company. Current pricing isn’t too far off from your group buy 5yrs ago.

[ncsuLuke]

Well my 3x Aggro OPB came in. BOY they were not joking about this bar. I really thought this pattern would not "feel" as aggressive as they were touting, but I was dead wrong. This thing is painful to bench press with. It's a very nice bar, quality wise (stainless shaft and sleeves are nice), but I'm on the fence as to whether I actually "like" it or not. Lol. I will use it a few more sessions to see if I'll be keeping it or if I'll admit defeat and move on from it. It is definitely more aggressive than any other "mountain type" knurl bar I've owned.. namely the Kabuki power bar and the Vulcan Absolute Stainless Power Bar. The 3x Aggro is just a taller, sharper knurl. It's really something else. It is more aggressive and sharper than the normal OPB by a good bit. This 3x is gonna chew up my j-cups BAD.

So I have a shaved head and I'm now nervous getting under the 3x Aggro center knurl to squat that my head will hit that knurl and bleed. LOL. I have never even thought about that with another bar...

Shave my head as well and I have definitely taken a rough hit before when getting under my powerspeed bar, would not want to have that same accident with anything sharper lol.

[radrd]

Shave my head as well and I have definitely taken a rough hit before when getting under my powerspeed bar, would not want to have that same accident with anything sharper lol.

Got my nose a few days ago on my PowerSpeed bar lol. I also don't think the 3x Aggro is for me. Would be really curious to know how the 2x Aggro compares but I'd probably have to order one to find out. I'm thinking I might do that eventually. Maybe keep 2-3 bars in rotation for fun.

[urbanlifter]

Patiently (really impatiently) waiting on the Rogue deep dish! Meanwhile I've got the Rogue rackable curl bar in my cart to replace my CAP, anyone have any insight to that bar after having some time with it?

[TolerantLactose]

Patiently (really impatiently) waiting on the Rogue deep dish!

It took 21 days before my 45s shipped and 7 days for my 25s.

[DarthCholo]

Patiently (really impatiently) waiting on the Rogue deep dish! Meanwhile I've got the Rogue rackable curl bar in my cart to replace my CAP, anyone have any insight to that bar after having some time with it?

after having a rogue ecoat curl bar and ceracoat barbell from rogue, i'd get the cerecoat option as it feels way better in hands vs the ecoat/black chrome like coating. both i think are equally durable. Mines not rackable, but easily one of my favorite pieces.

[urbanlifter]

It took 21 days before my 45s shipped and 7 days for my 25s.

Yeah, I probably didn't plan this out very well, my Equalizers sold MUCH faster than I thought they would. In the meantime my most painful purchase ever came today, 5lb plates from Strength Co. Very nice looking plates, they have the older York look to them and the rim is machined nicely. Should pair well with the Rogue plates until they actually stock their own 5lb for the deep dish set.

[TolerantLactose]

Yeah, I probably didn't plan this out very well

I'm in the same boat. I ordered a week before I lost gym access, which was 3 weeks ago. The 45s are still en route.

[weisgarb]

Yeah, I probably didn't plan this out very well, my Equalizers sold MUCH faster than I thought they would. In the meantime my most painful purchase ever came today, 5lb plates from Strength Co. Very nice looking plates, they have the older York look to them and the rim is machined nicely. Should pair well with the Rogue plates until they actually stock their own 5lb for the deep dish set.

The castings look great--I suspect they are better than what you're going to get from Rogue. The pictures I've seen of the deep dish plates (as well as one kettlebell I bought) that are coming out of the Michigan plant are a bit rough. I don't know if it's an issue with ductile vs gray cast iron, but the kettlebells I got from the Ohio plant were much better. At least the sides and backs will be smooth from the machining, and Rogue is a little cheaper than the Strength Company.

[urbanlifter]

The castings look great--I suspect they are better than what you're going to get from Rogue. The pictures I've seen of the deep dish plates (as well as one kettlebell I bought) that are coming out of the Michigan plant are a bit rough. I don't know if it's an issue with ductile vs gray cast iron, but the kettlebells I got from the Ohio plant were much better. At least the sides and backs will be smooth from the machining, and Rogue is a little cheaper than the Strength Company.

Really? I'll have to dig around some more, all of the reviews and pictures I've seen from Rogue make them look incredible.

[weisgarb]

Really? I'll have to dig around some more, all of the reviews and pictures I've seen from Rogue make them look incredible.

The ones I've seen aren't bad, but when the light catches them at an angle you can see areas of the finish that aren't at the same level as those two from Strength Co. I still think you'll be happy with them.

As an example, look at the 45 lb plate Brian Shaw is holding up at 3:16.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am7TWh9McrI&t=196s

[TolerantLactose]

The ones I've seen aren't bad, but when the light catches them at an angle you can see areas of the finish that aren't at the same level as those two from Strength Co. I still think you'll be happy with them.

As an example, look at the 45 lb plate Brian Shaw is holding up at 3:16.

You mean the side of the plate with the logo? Seems fine to me but I only have beat up commercial gym plates to compare them to.

[urbanlifter]

You mean the side of the plate with the logo? Seems fine to me but I only have beat up commercial gym plates to compare them to.

I'm not too worried about the paint finish, I've just been star stuck at how flush those things seem to fit together on a bar. Looks precision cut to me, the insides can have some rough spots. To be honest, that's just in line with the old York DD's they copied LOL. I need to dig up my old post on this subject, said maybe 2-3 years ago there would be a market for someone to run with the old York DD line....

[EricAtl]

Patiently (really impatiently) waiting on the Rogue deep dish! Meanwhile I've got the Rogue rackable curl bar in my cart to replace my CAP, anyone have any insight to that bar after having some time with it?

Great bar. I had the titan bar briefly and literally gave it away when the rogue bar came in. Much better shape and knurling. Plus it fits your made in USA movement.

[RGrizzzz]

after having a rogue ecoat curl bar and ceracoat barbell from rogue, i'd get the cerecoat option as it feels way better in hands vs the ecoat/black chrome like coating. both i think are equally durable. Mines not rackable, but easily one of my favorite pieces.

I feel the opposite. I have the e-coat curl bar and a cerakote Bella bar(wife's). The cerakote on the Bella is way too smooth on the knurl. I don't need anything super aggressive, but that thing justs lacks grip.

[weisgarb]

I feel the opposite. I have the e-coat curl bar and a cerakote Bella bar(wife's). The cerakote on the Bella is way too smooth on the knurl. I don't need anything super aggressive, but that thing justs lacks grip.

I haven't had my hands on anything with cerakote, but it appears to have a matte finish as opposed to the e-coat which is shiny (and somewhat slippery). All things being equal, I'd expect cerakote to be have more grip, but since the finish is thicker, it'll "fill in" some of the knurling. Cerakote bars almost need more aggressive knurling to start with to be on equal footing with some of the other coatings.

[radrd]

I haven't had my hands on anything with cerakote, but it appears to have a matte finish as opposed to the e-coat which is shiny (and somewhat slippery). All things being equal, I'd expect cerakote to be have more grip, but since the finish is thicker, it'll "fill in" some of the knurling. Cerakote bars almost need more aggressive knurling to start with to be on equal footing with some of the other coatings.

This is my impression as well and for the first time I'm hoping Rogue releases another bar in cerakote - the 3X Aggro. Might have an amazing feel and I'd probably pick one up just to try it.

[sera310]

I'm not too worried about the paint finish, I've just been star stuck at how flush those things seem to fit together on a bar. Looks precision cut to me, the insides can have some rough spots. To be honest, that's just in line with the old York DD's they copied LOL. I need to dig up my old post on this subject, said maybe 2-3 years ago there would be a market for someone to run with the old York DD line....

I remember that. I'm glad you were right, I really like my Rogue DD plates.

[RGrizzzz]

This is my impression as well and for the first time I'm hoping Rogue releases another bar in cerakote - the 3X Aggro. Might have an amazing feel and I'd probably pick one up just to try it.

That might be interesting. I feel like the e-coat works well with the knurling. It's smooth on the non-knurled parts, but complimentary on the knurl.

[DarthCholo]

I feel the opposite. I have the e-coat curl bar and a cerakote Bella bar(wife's). The cerakote on the Bella is way too smooth on the knurl. I don't need anything super aggressive, but that thing justs lacks grip.

I was quite perplexed by your opinion since it's so opposite of what i observed and others too. I just checked and it's possible the Bella bar has a different knurl vs Ohio Bars and Curl Bars. My C-70S(a shorty ohio bar) and my Curl Bar both say they have the same "ohio knurl". Vs the Bella bar is described as "carefully refined knurling for a firm but non-abrasive grip" but not as an Ohio knurl as other mens barbells. like for like cerecoat is more grippy is what you're going to hear everywhere else. E-coat is indistinguishable in feel from hard chrome in my opinion.

[Sboarder1964]

Cerakote has much less grip than all the other finishes.