Germanwings pilot locked out of cockpit before crash

[5htp]

From beebeesee news:

The Germanwings co-pilot thought to have deliberately crashed his Airbus in the French Alps, killing 150 people, predicted "one day everyone will know my name", his ex-girlfriend says. In an interview with Germany's Bild newspaper, she recalled a comment Andreas Lubitz made last year.

"One day I'm going to do something that will change the whole system, and everyone will know my name and remember," he told her.

[everglide123]

He is the definition of a psychopath:

"a personality disorder characterized by enduring antisocial behavior, diminished empathy and remorse, and disinhibited or bold behavior."
ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy

[Benny_Lava]

If he was muslim the whole world would be shouting terrorist. But he only is labeled with a mental illness.

Strong world.

They investigated it and see no reason to label it a terrorist act as there is no evidence. You're retarded. You honestly have to be an extremely dumb individual, and I'm not even saying this to be mean, my mind is just sort of blown right now.

[Carbonfibre]

He is the definition of a psychopath:

"a personality disorder characterized by enduring antisocial behavior, diminished empathy and remorse, and disinhibited or bold behavior."
ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy

Well Lufthansa/GermanWings are about to be sued to the ground................

What in the phuck are Lufthansa medical checks that miss psychiatric testing portion.



Apparently the tape recording will be released, there is already snippets coming out.


Phuck the pilot at last moments was using axe to try and break down the door.

Can't imagine what the passengers/crew were going through seeing that.

[smoked04]

If he was muslim the whole world would be shouting terrorist. But he only is labeled with a mental illness.

Strong world.

Muslim with feelings of guilt detected.

[Upshall18]

Why would anyone call him a terrorist? He had no terrorist affiliations and no motive for committing an act of terror. When a Muslim person commits an atrocity, no one calls him a terrorist until his terrorist affiliations and potential motive have been confirmed. If the co-pilot is found to have motive or affiliations, he will also be labeled a terrorist.

According to thercias Atheists are terrorists

[thercias]

Because killing others, was never done by those with beliefs in god.

A lot of Germans are Christians FYI.

All I'm saying is, if this German was a Christian and believed in a God that punishes people for committing such atrocious actions, maybe he would think twice before taking out 150 people along with himself. You see it all the time on the news, some autistic atheist ends up shooting up a school or shopping mall before putting a bullet through his head because of how depressed he is. I'm not arguing that other religious groups don't perform terrorist actions under the name of their religion, but when it comes to some depressed brah going on a rampage, atheists take the cake.

If you're assyrian, just lol @ you and your culture, letting it get destroyed by a bunch of sand animals without a fight.

lol @ my culture cus we're not violent? maybe if other cultures strived to be more like that, the world would be a better place. It's kind of hard to win a fight when your outnumbered 100 to 1 in a region. pls go

[skinnytobulk]

I swear some of these theories on cnn so stupid, should no humans be allowed in the cockpit and allow ground people to fly it. I swear some of these are clowns. It's not hard enforce 2 people rule, and if someone has mental problems allow the doctors to give the info to the airlines, not give a note to the pilot saying you're not fit to fly.

[7rmr]

Just saw it on cnn from some attorney said if airline is not at fault, they offer up to 160k, but if they're at fault its unlimited depending on the damages done.

Law brah here

That's correct. These things are governed by the Montreal Convention. Under the convention the airlines are strictly liable for 175K per passenger. Where passengers are claiming damages above 175K the burden shifts to the airline to prove they were not responsible due to negligence etc for the loss.

The jurisdiction for these claims depends on many factors, and ultimately how much money the passengers family's will receive depends on where they are able to establish jurisdiciton. Those families that have to sue in Germany will likely receive little above the 175K. While those families able to sue in the US will receive millions just to compensate for the terror experienced by their family members in those immediate moments before death where they realized they were going to die.

I swear some of these theories on cnn so stupid, should no humans be allowed in the cockpit and allow ground people to fly it. I swear some of these are clowns. It's not hard enforce 2 people rule, and if someone has mental problems allow the doctors to give the info to the airlines, not give a note to the pilot saying you're not fit to fly.

People like big complex changes because some how they think that will make things safer. That problem is with each change you usually create a new risk. Here the risk is so remote, and so small that it makes little sense to add new risk, or much expense, to address it. The simplest and most effective solution is simply to have the rule of 2 people in the cockpit at any one time.

[JohnyyBravo]

Loling so hard how they trying to prove he is some kind of psycho. Never seen them try so hard when some muslims commits a suicide attack

[7rmr]

Loling so hard how they trying to prove he is some kind of psycho. Never seen them try so hard when some muslims commits a suicide attack

Except the more evidence that he is a psycho the worse it is for the airlines, because it means there was information out there showing he clearly should not have been flying that plane. Pretty ****ty troll attempt.

[JohnyyBravo]

Except the more evidence that he is a psycho the worse it is for the airlines, because it means there was information out there showing he clearly should not have been flying that plane. Pretty ****ty troll attempt.

We all gonna act like some mentally sick people aren't flying planes right now planes?
I believe this is something will just see more in the future, watch all these other mentally unstable pilots do the samething...it will be a fad, just like the school shootings. You heard it here first.

[jumbl]

I swear some of these theories on cnn so stupid, should no humans be allowed in the cockpit and allow ground people to fly it. I swear some of these are clowns. It's not hard enforce 2 people rule, and if someone has mental problems allow the doctors to give the info to the airlines, not give a note to the pilot saying you're not fit to fly.

what's worse is I saw an 'pilot psychologist' on Sky News ask why the Pilot tried to break the door down, as theoretically he should've known it was impossible. I mean come on, what was his other option, turn to the passengers, fold his arms, and sit on the floor? Get himself a coffee?

Kunt

[AshyLarry11]

Apparently the tape recording will be released, there is already snippets coming out.

Phuck the pilot at last moments was using axe to try and break down the door.

Can't imagine what the passengers/crew were going through seeing that.

They'll release a transcript, not sure if they're required to release the full audio. Would like to hear it just to satisfy my morbid curiosity.

Iunno how they've come to the conclusion that he was using an axe. I thought the only one in the plane is located in the cockpit. But ya brutal, knowing that nothing is getting through that door because it's doing exactly what it was designed to do.

Just saw it on cnn from some attorney said if airline is not at fault, they offer up to 160k, but if they're at fault its unlimited depending on the damages done.

Fckin hate CNN, their 'aviation specialist' claims MH370 was hijacked by russian special forces under Putin's order...

[7rmr]

Fckin hate CNN, their 'aviation specialist' claims MH370 was hijacked by russian special forces under Putin's order...

Yes, Jeff Wise is a bit of an nut (and I don't think he has appeared on CNN for a while now). But their current aviation specialists include the former head of the NTSB, a former inspector for the FAA, and the former Inspector General for the Department of Transportation. You really couldn't have a more knowledgeable group.

[Manletbolic]

Whats scary about this is that its been just a year since the missing plane. Holy phuck airlines need better re-evaluation check on their pilots mental health.

[VANZFINEST]

#Lufthansa offers immediate financial assistance to families of #Germanwings flight #4U9525. Amount equivalent to $68,600 per passenger. - CBC News Alerts @CBCAlerts

LOL wot???

that is pennies compared to the lose of your relative + funeral cost, mental anguish, lost time from work and life....

Is this similar to MH370, where the Airlines offered a similar pay out to the relatives, something like around $120k. And if they accepted it then that is all they can get and they cant sue, ect...?

[jackflag]

How would have air traffic control known to unlock it?

Pilot should be able to correspond with them somehow. Phones/transmitters in the plane outside of the locked cockpit, that the pilot can use to contact the control tower. Verify his identity and let them know what's going on.

Lol thats not how it works. Right now we have the best aeromedical system in place. You need a medical certificate to fly which is governed by the FAA/ICAO which is only given to you by an FAA/ICAO approved AME (Aviation Medical Examinar) who oversees your medical records from your general doctors. Do some research man.

I'm aware that's not how it works. Its obvious because that's not what happened. All i'm saying is if the medical examiner (say, the one examining the co-pilot) deems a pilot unfit to fly for psychiatric reasons, it would make sense for the airliner/whoever's in charge of assigning crew to get the information directly from him. Instead of relying on medically unfit pilots to make use of sick notes.

[7rmr]

LOL wot???

that is pennies compared to the lose of your relative + funeral cost, mental anguish, lost time from work and life....

Is this similar to MH370, where the Airlines offered a similar pay out to the relatives, something like around $120k. And if they accepted it then that is all they can get and they cant sue, ect...?

See my post above. Most of this is determined by the Montreal Convention. The airline is required to make smaller immediate humanitarian payments to the family members. This is not the entirety of what they will receive.

[ClavicleKing]

Dude was hella ugly, probably has a lot to do with it.

[7rmr]

How is that a solution? As if your average male pilot couldn't overpower a female flight attendant or a female pilot for that matter.

Having two crew in the cockpit at all times wont stop jack $hit. It just means the suicidal pilot has to choke out the other person in the flight deck first before crashing the plane.

The two people in the cockpit solution has been addressed extensively throughout this thread. People like yourself keep jumping in without reading the thread to rehash the same arguments.

[Dr.Seltsam]

LOL wot???

that is pennies compared to the lose of your relative + funeral cost, mental anguish, lost time from work and life....

Is this similar to MH370, where the Airlines offered a similar pay out to the relatives, something like around $120k. And if they accepted it then that is all they can get and they cant sue, ect...?

Nah, that is immediate assistance without any requirements. Has nothing to do with compensation, insurance, whatever. It is paid out instantly to help the families. Any other claims will follow.

[skarj]

Summary of transcript has leaked.. Apparently.

Pretty terrifying if you read it and imagine being on the plane in that timeframe

Think we should forget this beta kid and focus on the main pilot the true hero trying everything he could to save them. And remember the people who passed away tragically.

On cnn, news.com.au bbcee etc

[Ted Nugent]

this sh*t is scary

[ANumber1]

Summary of transcript has leaked.. Apparently.

Pretty terrifying if you read it and imagine being on the plane in that timeframe

Think we should forget this beta kid and focus on the main pilot the true hero trying everything he could to save them. And remember the people who passed away tragically.

On cnn, news.com.au bbcee etc

I haven't read the transcript, but I did read where the pilot was going over landing protocol and Lubitz apparently replied...

"We'll see."

[GuusD]

Main pilot did everything to get back into the cockpit. Even beat the door with an axe. The passengers knew what was happening, they screamed for minutes. fuark....

[TajTebwee]

We all gonna act like some mentally sick people aren't flying planes right now planes?
I believe this is something will just see more in the future, watch all these other mentally unstable pilots do the samething...it will be a fad, just like the school shootings. You heard it here first.

You are wrong. Yes there are probly mentally ill pilots flying out there, but this guy was pure evil. That's much much rarer. Flying a plane filled with 149 innocent people into a mountain? Completely calm while doing so and hearing the screams in the background.

Inconceivable.

[Num3n]

You are wrong. Yes there are probly mentally ill pilots flying out there, but this guy was pure evil. That's much much rarer. Flying a plane filled with 149 innocent people into a mountain? Completely calm while doing so and hearing the screams in the background.

Inconceivable.

we dont know if he got pleasure out of killing those people or if he simply didnt care at all one way or the other.

[meteoraniac]

am I the only one wondering what an ax is doing on a plane?

cut through the E-doors in case its jam

[jackflag]

we dont know if he got pleasure out of killing those people or if he simply didnt care at all one way or the other.

If he didn't care at all he could have just jumped off a building or something. He clearly wanted other people to suffer and die with him.